Very amusing and informative photography site

  • UncleLou Moderator 7 Oct 2004 10:26:50 40,723 posts
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    I've recently found [link=http://194.100.88.243/petteri/pont/Whats_new/a_Recent_changes.html">this site about photography, with pretty amusing and at the same time informative essays like "Why most landscapes suck", a lot of useful "how-to" articles and, my personal favourite,
  • cyk 7 Oct 2004 10:51:38 306 posts
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    lol :) I'd agree with some of that. Everyone who gets a digital camera these days always takes flower macros :) I know I did when I got mine ;) I see it all the time on photograph forums. "Flower macros.... more flower macros...flower macros with a twist!" ... etc :)
  • unwashed 7 Oct 2004 11:08:25 1,857 posts
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    I recently did something different... I did a salt cellar macro!!! \o/ :D
  • sam_spade 7 Oct 2004 11:17:11 15,745 posts
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    I could tell you some things about shit photography.

    I used to work at Kodak cutting negatives on the night shift, all the next day Boots stuff is processed at the plant.

    And if you want the classic shit photo then it's the arms al la \o/, legs shoulder width apart (sitting optional) and an inane nervous (obviously they are trying to look happy but look fake) grin on people's faces.

    If you take pictures like that, put me on ignore. I hate you.

    Why don't you take more photos of beautiful naked women?
  • UncleLou Moderator 7 Oct 2004 11:29:45 40,723 posts
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    Why don't you take more photos of beautiful naked women?


    Probably because people who pose like that or have friends who pose like that for photographys don't know any beautiful women?
  • unwashed 7 Oct 2004 11:34:14 1,857 posts
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    sam_spade wrote:
    I could tell you some things about shit photography.

    I used to work at Kodak cutting negatives on the night shift, all the next day Boots stuff is processed at the plant.

    And if you want the classic shit photo then it's the arms al la \o/, legs shoulder width apart (sitting optional) and an inane nervous (obviously they are trying to look happy but look fake) grin on people's faces.

    If you take pictures like that, put me on ignore. I hate you.

    Why don't you take more photos of beautiful naked women?

    Either prove or dismiss a theory I've held for a while would you? You get a photo (or more likely photos) of a beautiful (in your eyes) naked lady (or man, if that's your preference) are you able to take a personal copy? And do you take a personal copy?
  • Machiavel 7 Oct 2004 11:40:55 5,964 posts
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    Good stuff. His musing on buying ever increasing amounts of kit to hide the emptiness of chocolate box pictures is particularly apt for gaming!
  • sam_spade 7 Oct 2004 11:45:06 15,745 posts
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    Personal copies are rarely made because they come off in giant rolls. The only time that we saw them was for the quality control check, when the stickers are put on (take the lens cap off - your camera is broken - stop taking photos right now!) manually. And when the negative is cut. Then the photos are cut by a bunch of ladies (who are dressed in their going out gear because they've come from a night out) and then put in the sleeves.

    I have heard that the girls would put aside a single image if you requested it and it wouldn't be missed. Usually nude photographers use a whole reel of film so they could easily remove one image without it being noticed.

    Make no mistake, every image is seen by three living human beings. But they wouldn't know you from Adam.
  • sam_spade 7 Oct 2004 12:02:56 15,745 posts
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    Actually commenting on the article.

    I'm at a loss as to what he want amateur photographers to do. I know that he wants us all to pack in relying on technical ability and start looking at the world a different way, but I think that's easy for a professional photographer to say.

    I know that the Macro facility was overused on my Digital Camera when I got it. But that's experimentation for you, it's interesting to see what you can do with it.

    You should take pictures of what you like to take pictures of. If your happy doing macros of flowers you shouldn't feel bad about it. I don't take photos to please other people, I take them to please myself.
  • UncleLou Moderator 7 Oct 2004 12:22:07 40,723 posts
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    sam_spade wrote:
    Actually commenting on the article.

    I'm at a loss as to what he want amateur photographers to do. I know that he wants us all to pack in relying on technical ability and start looking at the world a different way, but I think that's easy for a professional photographer to say.

    I know that the Macro facility was overused on my Digital Camera when I got it. But that's experimentation for you, it's interesting to see what you can do with it.

    You should take pictures of what you like to take pictures of. If your happy doing macros of flowers you shouldn't feel bad about it. I don't take photos to please other people, I take them to please myself.



    As far as I know, he's not a professional photographer, but an amateur as well.

    What he's trying to say is that it's pretty easy to fall into a cliché trap, and that there's more to a good photography than technical perfection.

    Mind, all the example pictures were taken by him (or, with permission, from friends etc.), so his articles are not an "attack" on others, but rather observations of his own behaviour.
  • CyberClaw 7 Oct 2004 12:30:29 2,085 posts
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    sam_spade wrote:
    You should take pictures of what you like to take pictures of. If your happy doing macros of flowers you shouldn't feel bad about it. I don't take photos to please other people, I take them to please myself.
    Oh, but the drama resides when so called amateurs, decide to show us their work of art.
    "Here, wanna look at my photos"
    Obviously most of the times you want to say "Errmmmmm NOPE", but it's okay, cause you'll always find some badly shot fotograph of some wacky friend amidst the lot, making a stupid pose.
    But it's true... people look at setting and say "oooh what a pretty XYZ" and there they shoot. But when reviewing the photos, they simply pass them twice as fast.

    Something I noticed by having a whole lot of friends who carry their cam up their asses, to take photos at every chance, I noticed the last 4-5 pictures they take, are always crap, like, let me finish this up "do this, look a statue, oh a fly", so that they can go and have their negatives processed.
  • sam_spade 7 Oct 2004 12:45:00 15,745 posts
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    Yeah, I get the 'we've all been there' but I get the feeling he's been quite parochial about it. Might just be me.

    I agree that photographers some how feel obliged to show their collection. But I think picking on a site designed to host pictures is a bit harsh on him, that's what it's there for amateurs to share work. It's like having a site for teenager poetry, not everyone is going to be a Rimbaud but does it matter?

    I did look at photo.net the other day and I looked at the most rated and they were all of nude women (some gauzy) because that's what people like. Although you didn't have to read the comments to realise that some of them probably said: "I've cum now. Cheers"
  • Gurgy 7 Oct 2004 13:14:16 2,924 posts
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    /opens My Documents folder, highlights My Photos folder, right click, delete/

    Bastards !
  • CyberClaw 7 Oct 2004 13:29:58 2,085 posts
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    So what's the appeal of the photograph to the common man? Everyone, and I mean everyone and their grandmother like to take photos.
    Why is that? Because the artistic expression resides more on the chances and observation skills, than on the creational skills themselves? What's the photo-appeal? The easyness of use? Not just fast food generation eh?

    Personally I take way more pleasure of spending 24 hours straigth working on some elaborate drawing I find my best so far, just to look at it 15 days later and say it's a piece of crap :D
  • cyk 7 Oct 2004 13:59:21 306 posts
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    sam_spade wrote:
    I did look at photo.net the other day and I looked at the most rated and they were all of nude women (some gauzy) because that's what people like. Although you didn't have to read the comments to realise that some of them probably said: "I've cum now. Cheers"

    The same can be said of Deviantart. All the top photos in each category are usually women. Sure they may be good photos, but its always women...

    I'm one of those people who takes their camera everywhere. I do it simply because I never know what might happen, what I might see. I like to think that I take pictures of things that most people wouldn't see. Cameras see the world differently to human eyes, and by using them I can show people thinsg they would normally not notice. Basically, I just don't like to miss a moment that will never happen again.
  • unwashed 7 Oct 2004 15:13:45 1,857 posts
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    Fuck's sake otto!!! You managed to hack into my PhotoBox account?!?!? Me and the missus like the photos of 'North Bank just before the Tower at night' and 'Moody Sea Scape'!!!
  • mal 7 Oct 2004 15:31:06 29,326 posts
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    UncleLou wrote:
    What he's trying to say is that it's pretty easy to fall into a cliché trap, and that there's more to a good photography than technical perfection.
    I think we covered this a bit last night, when otto said that he had a habit of using selective depth of field on EVERYTHING. The knack is just getting it out of your system - and not putting every photo up on the net so everyone can see the ten thousand crappy almost identical shots that led up to the one nice one.
  • Gurgy 7 Oct 2004 15:47:21 2,924 posts
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    Otto you absolute iGit !

    Two consecutive posts taking the iMick.

    And to think how nice iI am to you.

    You'll regret those iPosts in the coming days.


    /iSulks/




    i:p
  • cyk 7 Oct 2004 16:34:33 306 posts
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    iDispear
  • otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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    Heh! It's funny 'cos it's true. He forgot 'blurred liners sailing past illuminated nocturnal cityscapes under a gibbous moon'

    :D

    Nah he can fuck off. We have our art! The Philistines can bite me! /takes arty photo of a duck
  • otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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    So that's where gurgy gets his material! ;D
  • otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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    iLOL

    iM only jealous
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