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jonsaan 27,052 posts
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Registered 15 years agoMost artists would use it to correct say one word in an otherwise gloriously sung line. It's just a studio tool. Somehow it has become to be associated with XFactor wannabes, that's like saying all use of reverb/chorus or any other effect is awful. -
ModishNouns 4,986 posts
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Registered 12 years agojonsaan wrote:
that's like saying all use of reverb/chorus or any other effect is awful.
Autotune is a studio tool used to do something the singer ought to be able to do on their own - hit a note. Reverb and chorus (and others) add effects that a solo singer can't physically do. -
gang_of_bitches 5,707 posts
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Registered 16 years agoMr Sleep wrote:
gang_of_bitches wrote:
Craig0702 wrote:
kinky_mong wrote:
jonsaan wrote:
Re: Autotune
No it's not. Used correctly it's like any other studio tool. It can be a rather awesome effect.
Examples?
Do you bel-i-i-i-ie-e-e-eve in life after lo-o-ove?
Right there
That's a Vocoder, not autotune, but it remains shit.
No, it is autotune.
The distinct sound that made that track famous was achieved using the vocoder unless I'm massively mistaken, whether or not Auto-tune was used is almost entirely incidental. -
dogbot 2,902 posts
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Registered 11 years agoMr Sleep wrote:
gang_of_bitches wrote:
Craig0702 wrote:
kinky_mong wrote:
jonsaan wrote:
Re: Autotune
No it's not. Used correctly it's like any other studio tool. It can be a rather awesome effect.
Examples?
Do you bel-i-i-i-ie-e-e-eve in life after lo-o-ove?
Right there
That's a Vocoder, not autotune, but it remains shit.
No, it is autotune.
Oh...
"Auto-Tune uses a phase vocoder to correct pitch in vocal and instrumental performances."
Mostly, you shouldn't be able to tell, of course.
Shame it's rarely used in that way any more.
And artists using it live... FUCK OFF. -
buggrit 5,178 posts
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Registered 14 years agoIt most definitely IS autotune, settings cranked to the max. -
santabakingapie 353 posts
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Registered 11 years agoas I said, flaming lips use it live these days cos their lead singer's voice is gone -
Ska. -
Craig0702 2,178 posts
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Registered 13 years agoAlright I got it wrong, it didn't need half the thread to tell me! /o\
Just... just... fuck off.
/emocry
EDIT: Maybe I didn't get it wrong. Ah what the hell. You can get an Autotune app on your iPhone anyway...used to hilarous effect in the recent episode of How I Met Your Mother when Barney sings along to Stand By Me. -
minky-kong 14,787 posts
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Registered 13 years agojonsaan wrote:
Auto tune won't make a crap singer good though. It just won't. Its main purpose is to slightly bend sung pitches to the nearest true semitone. Anything more than that and it starts to sound like utter pants.
Fair enough, I revise my original quote to "The increasing trend of shit R'n'B and Pop songs to overuse Auto-tune to horrible effect. All this music is for idiots." -
santabakingapie 353 posts
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Registered 11 years agoska and reggae are shit though it's true. -
localnotail 23,079 posts
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Registered 13 years agoRage_Quit_Rob wrote:
Ska.
stop your messin' around -
dogbot 2,902 posts
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Registered 11 years agobuggrit wrote:
It most definitely IS autotune, settings cranked to the max.
I'll accept being wrong on the basis that I don't have to listen to the song until I can tell the difference...
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jonsaan 27,052 posts
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Registered 15 years agoWhen a singer records they might do the same line upwards of 20 times. The engineer and producer will then 'comp' the lines to get the best single line out of all the bits of all the takes. This has been common since the days of the Beatles and multitrack tape.
Is this the sign of a bad singer too? Autotune is used sparingly on pretty much any modern recording with a budget.
It doesn't mean you can't sing. It means you want a perfect recording. How the producer deals with that process will dictate the final sound. Shit producer= shit vocal production.
That autotuned sound is very much in vogue these days. That's what people identify with. It doesn't mean auto tune is a bad thing. It's just when it gets into the wrong hands. It's a massively handy studio tool. -
buggrit 5,178 posts
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Registered 14 years agodogbot wrote:
Seems fair enough
buggrit wrote:
It most definitely IS autotune, settings cranked to the max.
I'll accept being wrong on the basis that I don't have to listen to the song until I can tell the difference...
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mal 29,326 posts
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Registered 20 years agoI don't mind autotune used for artistic effect, or autotune used to correct one duff note in an otherwise perfect take, to save time and money. But it seems to be increasingly being used to manhandle some tone-deaf singer's output into something tuneful. I wouldn't mind if the effect wasn't so blatant.
For this thread I'm going to submit The Wombats - for making annoying songs that keep getting stuck in my head. You'd have to be an idiot to listen to that stuff on purpose. -
dogbot 2,902 posts
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Registered 11 years agosantabakingapie wrote:
ska and reggae are shit though it's true.
Dismissing entire genres is shit. -
localnotail wrote:
Rage_Quit_Rob wrote:
Ska.
stop your messin' around
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mrpon 37,367 posts
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Registered 15 years agojonsaan knows his stuff, he had a best selling album in HMV y'know!
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dogbot 2,902 posts
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Registered 11 years agolocalnotail wrote:
Rage_Quit_Rob wrote:
Ska.
stop your messin' around
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dogbot wrote:
santabakingapie wrote:
ska and reggae are shit though it's true.
Dismissing entire genres is shit.
No, ska is still shitter. -
buggrit 5,178 posts
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Registered 14 years agodogbot wrote:
dogbot is correct. To dismiss an entire genre of music marks you as musically-retarded, IMO.
santabakingapie wrote:
ska and reggae are shit though it's true.
Dismissing entire genres is shit. -
dogbot 2,902 posts
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Registered 11 years agoRage_Quit_Rob wrote:
dogbot wrote:
santabakingapie wrote:
ska and reggae are shit though it's true.
Dismissing entire genres is shit.
No, ska is still shitter.
Really?
Original, 2nd wave, 3rd wave or contemporary? :/ -
buggrit 5,178 posts
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Registered 14 years agoRage_Quit_Rob wrote:
When you say ska, do you mean actual proper ska, or that ska-punk stuff? Either way you're wrong, I'm just interested.
dogbot wrote:
santabakingapie wrote:
ska and reggae are shit though it's true.
Dismissing entire genres is shit.
No, ska is still shitter. -
dogbot 2,902 posts
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Registered 11 years ago*high five* -
dogbot 2,902 posts
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gang_of_bitches wrote:
The distinct sound that made that track famous was achieved using the vocoder unless I'm massively mistaken, whether or not Auto-tune was used is almost entirely incidental.
You are massively mistaken
Twas Autotune, the producers spent time bragging about this secret new tool they have and then some other producers figured out pretty quickly that it was autotune.
Oh and as stated, autotune is fine when used properly. Someone may have nailed a really good take of something with all the right emotion and slipped out of tune a bit at one point and autotune can correct that fairly well. It is just massively abused for effect. Of course, in my opinion I'd rather have things going slightly out of tune but that's not how studio records work. -
santabakingapie 353 posts
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Registered 11 years agoamazing: early 60s ska...most of the great reggae and dub artists have their roots in ska. the soul jazz comps. of various jamaican music are essential obviously. also, two tone - specials, madness, english beat, selecter.
rubbish: everything from 1983 on. -
jonsaan 27,052 posts
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Registered 15 years agomrpon wrote:
jonsaan knows his stuff, he had a best selling album in HMV y'know!
/runs
/chases
Another one incoming as it goes. The world is holding its breath.... -
buggrit wrote:
Rage_Quit_Rob wrote:
When you say ska, do you mean actual proper ska, or that ska-punk stuff? Either way you're wrong, I'm just interested.
dogbot wrote:
santabakingapie wrote:
ska and reggae are shit though it's true.
Dismissing entire genres is shit.
No, ska is still shitter.
Ska.
Twas Autotune, the producers spent time bragging about this secret new tool they have and then some other producers figured out pretty quickly that it was autotune. Sometimes posts may contain links to online retail stores. If you click on one and make a purchase we may receive a small commission. For more information, go here.
