Following The all-new Premier League thread Page 8581

  • General_Martok 13 Jan 2021 07:40:20 1,669 posts
    Seen 19 hours ago
    Registered 5 years ago
    It's not supposed to be available to ANYONE that's not in the priority list. It would be a PR disaster for the team, the players, the league and whoever provided the vaccine.

    They damn well better not get vaccinated before they're due.

    Edited by General_Martok at 07:40:50 13-01-2021
  • Dougs 13 Jan 2021 07:51:55 97,448 posts
    Seen 12 minutes ago
    Registered 18 years ago
    Aye. It's just fucking football. If there was a surplus of supply,knock yourself out. But we know that's not the case so they can just wait their turn
  • muddyyfunster 13 Jan 2021 07:53:46 804 posts
    Seen 7 hours ago
    Registered 10 years ago
    Agree, there's no reasonable argument for them being prioritised over high risk groups. In Slovakia some sports stars and celebrities have apparently jumped the queue and people went nuts.

    Roy Hodgson might get his through normal channels soon though.

    Edited by muddyyfunster at 07:54:07 13-01-2021
  • Dirt3 13 Jan 2021 11:02:48 1,339 posts
    Seen 10 hours ago
    Registered 6 years ago
    muddyyfunster wrote:
    Agree, there's no reasonable argument for them being prioritised over high risk groups. In Slovakia some sports stars and celebrities have apparently jumped the queue and people went nuts.

    Roy Hodgson might get his through normal channels soon though.
    The argument for them being prioritised over high risk groups is that it would take a relatively small number of vaccinations per club, and that they provide entertainment that makes lockdown a lot more bearable for a large number of people.

    It's the usual difficulty people have in making tradeoffs. 1 persons life against improvements in 1000 peoples mental health, or 10,000 people being more likely to be stricter on obeying lockdown for longer (which may in itself lead to many people being saved).

    How do you judge that trade ? The "won't someone just think of the children" argument is just the obvious appeal to emotion rather than actually thinking through the logic of the proposition and weighing a little amount of good for the many against a lot of good for the few.
  • SolidSCB 13 Jan 2021 11:06:24 14,596 posts
    Seen 6 hours ago
    Registered 11 years ago
    It's not a world where just the Premier League exists. They'd have to go as far down as games that are allowed currently, so National League level. That includes all players, coaches, medical staff. That's before you even mention reserve teams etc. It would take thousands of vaccinations that simply can not be spared right now.
  • Dirt3 13 Jan 2021 11:13:39 1,339 posts
    Seen 10 hours ago
    Registered 6 years ago
    SolidSCB wrote:
    It's not a world where just the Premier League exists. They'd have to go as far down as games that are allowed currently, so National League level. That includes all players, coaches, medical staff. That's before you even mention reserve teams etc. It would take thousands of vaccinations that simply can not be spared right now.
    They wouldn't "have" to do anything. Ways could be found to keep just part of the entertainment going should they wish to. It's a man made system, it's not like you are trying to defy the laws of physics.

    I agree that it would be more than just the players, you would obviously need the support staff with high risk of contact too.

    Anyway, I suspect it will be moot, because there will be private jabs available soon, and when you're paying players hundreds of thousands a week to play the cost of those jabs will be insignificant compared to the amount of money involved in other parts of the business.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 13 Jan 2021 11:14:30 22,315 posts
    Seen 29 minutes ago
    Registered 15 years ago
    I think there’s reasonable argument for them being vaccinated, and reasonable argument for them not to be. OMG nuance!
  • SolidSCB 13 Jan 2021 11:24:01 14,596 posts
    Seen 6 hours ago
    Registered 11 years ago
    I'm starting to wonder if I've accidentally switched sigs back on, the amount of time that word comes out of you.
  • General_Martok 13 Jan 2021 16:46:04 1,669 posts
    Seen 19 hours ago
    Registered 5 years ago
    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    I think there’s reasonable argument for them being vaccinated, and reasonable argument for them not to be. OMG nuance!
    Yes nuance exist, son of Jor'el, but we're not there yet.

    There is no *reasonable* argument to take vaccines away from the elderly and give it to the young and incredibly fit.

    Maybe when we get down to giving vaccines to 30-18 year olds it would be reasonable to vaccinate football players.

    It's football, it's as far away from essential as me needing a wank everyday. Football shouldn't be required for mental health either. Do exercise yourself instead of watching other people do it. That will be far more beneficial to your overall health.

    Edited by General_Martok at 16:46:42 13-01-2021
  • You-can-call-me-kal 13 Jan 2021 16:51:12 22,315 posts
    Seen 29 minutes ago
    Registered 15 years ago
    Then football shouldn’t be happening. Which is what we probably all thing. But in the context of an exception being made, that IMO creates a reasonable case for exceptions to be made with the vaccine also.
  • General_Martok 13 Jan 2021 16:54:46 1,669 posts
    Seen 19 hours ago
    Registered 5 years ago
    Football shouldn't be happening. We should stop the league now and declare the winners based on current positions.


    ...

    :D

    I do agree football shouldn't be happening though.

    Edited by General_Martok at 16:55:06 13-01-2021
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 13 Jan 2021 17:11:28 16,065 posts
    Seen 4 minutes ago
    Registered 5 years ago
    They should quit whinging and just play on if they get sick the amount they’re paid [/talksport]
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 13 Jan 2021 17:13:22 16,065 posts
    Seen 4 minutes ago
    Registered 5 years ago
    Post deleted
  • SolidSCB 13 Jan 2021 17:16:50 14,596 posts
    Seen 6 hours ago
    Registered 11 years ago
    The earlier point has very little to do with whether it was ethically right to consider vaccinating footballers, more the logistics at this point.

    It's far less simple than just going "let's vaccinate them" in this very early moment of the rollout. Unless we're doing Project Big Picture II: Vaccine Edition. Which would, yes, be wrong.
  • Baihu1983 13 Jan 2021 20:41:09 13,130 posts
    Seen 58 seconds ago
    Registered 9 years ago
    1 season wonder
  • Zomoniac 13 Jan 2021 20:42:42 10,375 posts
    Seen 9 hours ago
    Registered 16 years ago
    That cross was a thing of beauty.
  • robc84 13 Jan 2021 21:38:30 14,944 posts
    Seen 14 minutes ago
    Registered 8 years ago
    Sitting back again after scoring. We have to at least score a 2nd before we do this.
  • Baihu1983 13 Jan 2021 21:44:19 13,130 posts
    Seen 58 seconds ago
    Registered 9 years ago
    Yeah this will bite us on the arse
  • Baihu1983 13 Jan 2021 21:46:13 13,130 posts
    Seen 58 seconds ago
    Registered 9 years ago
    Yep! About the 5th fucking game now
  • Blackmarsh63 13 Jan 2021 21:46:16 3,966 posts
    Seen 10 hours ago
    Registered 6 years ago
    There we go....
  • robc84 13 Jan 2021 21:46:18 14,944 posts
    Seen 14 minutes ago
    Registered 8 years ago
    There it is. Fuck sake. Clearly learned nothing from the wolves game.
  • Baihu1983 13 Jan 2021 21:47:48 13,130 posts
    Seen 58 seconds ago
    Registered 9 years ago
    robc84 wrote:
    There it is. Fuck sake. Clearly learned nothing from the wolves game.
    Wolves, Newcastle, Palace.....
  • Frogofdoom 13 Jan 2021 21:49:52 17,220 posts
    Seen 56 minutes ago
    Registered 9 years ago
    Sitting on a 1-0 lead against Fulham at home is a curious tactical choice

    Still time to get another though.

    Edited by Frogofdoom at 21:50:28 13-01-2021
  • robc84 13 Jan 2021 21:50:41 14,944 posts
    Seen 14 minutes ago
    Registered 8 years ago
    Jose should have changed something before the goal. Was only going 1 way.
  • Baihu1983 13 Jan 2021 21:51:18 13,130 posts
    Seen 58 seconds ago
    Registered 9 years ago
    Frogofdoom wrote:
    Sitting on a 1-0 lead against Fulham at home is a curious tactical choice

    Still time to get another though.
    It's embarrassing. Double the possession
  • Frogofdoom 13 Jan 2021 21:52:18 17,220 posts
    Seen 56 minutes ago
    Registered 9 years ago
    I think it was Kal that made the point that it always used to be 2-0 before the bus park park. I wonder what changed.
  • robc84 13 Jan 2021 21:56:27 14,944 posts
    Seen 14 minutes ago
    Registered 8 years ago
    Yeah constantly sitting on 1-0 leads is always going to end badly. As we’ve seen multiple times this season. It’s really strange as we clearly have the players to put games to bed.
  • askew 13 Jan 2021 21:57:26 22,605 posts
    Seen 9 hours ago
    Registered 15 years ago
    Still plenty of time left
  • Baihu1983 13 Jan 2021 21:58:54 13,130 posts
    Seen 59 seconds ago
    Registered 9 years ago
    askew wrote:
    Still plenty of time left
    Yeah for Fulham. Look the more likely to score
  • You-can-call-me-kal 13 Jan 2021 22:00:11 22,315 posts
    Seen 29 minutes ago
    Registered 15 years ago
    I don’t think we’ve been super negative today. Decent amount of possession and shots. More just one of those games this time.

    Think we’ll lose.
Sign in or register to reply

Sometimes posts may contain links to online retail stores. If you click on one and make a purchase we may receive a small commission. For more information, go here.