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It's not supposed to be available to ANYONE that's not in the priority list. It would be a PR disaster for the team, the players, the league and whoever provided the vaccine. They damn well better not get vaccinated before they're due. Edited by General_Martok at 07:40:50 13-01-2021 |
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General_Martok 1,669 posts
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Dougs 97,448 posts
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Registered 18 years agoAye. It's just fucking football. If there was a surplus of supply,knock yourself out. But we know that's not the case so they can just wait their turn -
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Registered 10 years agoAgree, there's no reasonable argument for them being prioritised over high risk groups. In Slovakia some sports stars and celebrities have apparently jumped the queue and people went nuts.
Roy Hodgson might get his through normal channels soon though.
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Dirt3 1,339 posts
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Registered 6 years agomuddyyfunster wrote:
The argument for them being prioritised over high risk groups is that it would take a relatively small number of vaccinations per club, and that they provide entertainment that makes lockdown a lot more bearable for a large number of people.
Agree, there's no reasonable argument for them being prioritised over high risk groups. In Slovakia some sports stars and celebrities have apparently jumped the queue and people went nuts.
Roy Hodgson might get his through normal channels soon though.
It's the usual difficulty people have in making tradeoffs. 1 persons life against improvements in 1000 peoples mental health, or 10,000 people being more likely to be stricter on obeying lockdown for longer (which may in itself lead to many people being saved).
How do you judge that trade ? The "won't someone just think of the children" argument is just the obvious appeal to emotion rather than actually thinking through the logic of the proposition and weighing a little amount of good for the many against a lot of good for the few. -
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Registered 11 years agoIt's not a world where just the Premier League exists. They'd have to go as far down as games that are allowed currently, so National League level. That includes all players, coaches, medical staff. That's before you even mention reserve teams etc. It would take thousands of vaccinations that simply can not be spared right now. -
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Registered 6 years agoSolidSCB wrote:
They wouldn't "have" to do anything. Ways could be found to keep just part of the entertainment going should they wish to. It's a man made system, it's not like you are trying to defy the laws of physics.
It's not a world where just the Premier League exists. They'd have to go as far down as games that are allowed currently, so National League level. That includes all players, coaches, medical staff. That's before you even mention reserve teams etc. It would take thousands of vaccinations that simply can not be spared right now.
I agree that it would be more than just the players, you would obviously need the support staff with high risk of contact too.
Anyway, I suspect it will be moot, because there will be private jabs available soon, and when you're paying players hundreds of thousands a week to play the cost of those jabs will be insignificant compared to the amount of money involved in other parts of the business. -
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Registered 15 years agoI think there’s reasonable argument for them being vaccinated, and reasonable argument for them not to be. OMG nuance! -
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Registered 11 years agoI'm starting to wonder if I've accidentally switched sigs back on, the amount of time that word comes out of you. -
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Registered 5 years agoYou-can-call-me-kal wrote:
Yes nuance exist, son of Jor'el, but we're not there yet.
I think there’s reasonable argument for them being vaccinated, and reasonable argument for them not to be. OMG nuance!
There is no *reasonable* argument to take vaccines away from the elderly and give it to the young and incredibly fit.
Maybe when we get down to giving vaccines to 30-18 year olds it would be reasonable to vaccinate football players.
It's football, it's as far away from essential as me needing a wank everyday. Football shouldn't be required for mental health either. Do exercise yourself instead of watching other people do it. That will be far more beneficial to your overall health.
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You-can-call-me-kal 22,315 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThen football shouldn’t be happening. Which is what we probably all thing. But in the context of an exception being made, that IMO creates a reasonable case for exceptions to be made with the vaccine also. -
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Registered 5 years agoFootball shouldn't be happening. We should stop the league now and declare the winners based on current positions.
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I do agree football shouldn't be happening though.
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Registered 5 years agoThey should quit whinging and just play on if they get sick the amount they’re paid [/talksport] -
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Registered 11 years agoThe earlier point has very little to do with whether it was ethically right to consider vaccinating footballers, more the logistics at this point.
It's far less simple than just going "let's vaccinate them" in this very early moment of the rollout. Unless we're doing Project Big Picture II: Vaccine Edition. Which would, yes, be wrong. -
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Zomoniac 10,375 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThat cross was a thing of beauty. -
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Registered 8 years agoSitting back again after scoring. We have to at least score a 2nd before we do this. -
Baihu1983 13,130 posts
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Registered 9 years agoYeah this will bite us on the arse -
Baihu1983 13,130 posts
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Registered 9 years agoYep! About the 5th fucking game now -
Blackmarsh63 3,966 posts
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Registered 6 years agoThere we go.... -
robc84 14,944 posts
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Registered 8 years agoThere it is. Fuck sake. Clearly learned nothing from the wolves game. -
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Registered 9 years agorobc84 wrote:
Wolves, Newcastle, Palace.....
There it is. Fuck sake. Clearly learned nothing from the wolves game. -
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Registered 9 years agoSitting on a 1-0 lead against Fulham at home is a curious tactical choice
Still time to get another though.
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Registered 8 years agoJose should have changed something before the goal. Was only going 1 way. -
Baihu1983 13,130 posts
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Registered 9 years agoFrogofdoom wrote:
It's embarrassing. Double the possession
Sitting on a 1-0 lead against Fulham at home is a curious tactical choice
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Registered 9 years agoI think it was Kal that made the point that it always used to be 2-0 before the bus park park. I wonder what changed. -
robc84 14,944 posts
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Registered 8 years agoYeah constantly sitting on 1-0 leads is always going to end badly. As we’ve seen multiple times this season. It’s really strange as we clearly have the players to put games to bed. -
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Registered 15 years agoStill plenty of time left -
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Registered 9 years agoaskew wrote:
Yeah for Fulham. Look the more likely to score
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I don’t think we’ve been super negative today. Decent amount of possession and shots. More just one of those games this time.
Think we’ll lose.
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