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THFourteen 1 Oct 2012 11:22:09 47,943 posts
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kalel wrote:

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they hit the woodwork three times and had at least 2 definite pens as far as i could see

thats bad luck and poor finishing.
They also didn't score as many goals as we did, which is always going to be an issue.

I guess its like being an arsenal fan over the last 10 years, and teams like stoke coming to the emirates and parking the bus, and we pepper the goal with shots which hit the woodwork, keeper makes amazing saves etc etc and then the other team breaks away and scores a goal with their one shot on target.

deep down you know that the other team are a load of shit and you were unlucky, but unfortunately you don't get points for bad luck.

i guess what i'm saying is, united are far from fucked, and spurs are far from good based on the result in one game.

Deleted user 1 October 2012 11:23:16

The "definite pens" were both "seen 'em given" but not nailed on. The Sandro handball would have been very harsh and while Vert definitely did have a lot of whoeveritwas's shirt, that is standard defending to be quite honest. Rio certainly gets away with that every single game ever.

We rode our luck a bit but we kicked their arses all over the shop in the first half and for once Man U didn't get the luck they needed for a miracle comeback. Think we deserved the win for the first half performance on balance, not to mention being owed a fuck load of luck from over the years.

Deleted user 1 October 2012 11:24:33

THFourteen wrote:
i guess what i'm saying is, united are far from fucked, and spurs are far from good based on the result in one game.

Very true. What we need is some sort of points system and league table to get a better idea of how we're all doing.

Deleted user 1 October 2012 11:27:20

ecureuil wrote:
Cleverley needs to start games. He's a much better midfielder than Giggs, and he isn't even drawing a pension yet.

He'll start more. I reckon he's just being protected over the last few games since the last England game.

We need to wean ourselves our geriatrics pretty fast now though.

THFourteen 1 Oct 2012 11:33:01 47,943 posts
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kalel wrote:

THFourteen wrote:
i guess what i'm saying is, united are far from fucked, and spurs are far from good based on the result in one game.
Very true. What we need is some sort of points system and league table to get a better idea of how we're all doing.

Agreed. And we should look at it after 38 games have been completed rather than 6.

Deleted user 1 October 2012 11:37:03

OK everyone, stop talking about football now. TH says we have to wait until the end of the season.

THFourteen 1 Oct 2012 11:40:42 47,943 posts
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TBH if you had listened to me last season when i said that you'd have been much better off

roz123 1 Oct 2012 11:45:58 7,112 posts
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Some people are going to be so disappointed

HarryPalmer 1 Oct 2012 11:46:02 5,442 posts
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It is possible that Spurs may finish above Arsenal one year, but it's very unlikely.

Edited by HarryPalmer at 11:52:59 01-10-2012

asha 1 Oct 2012 11:51:17 2,023 posts
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HarryPalmer wrote:
It is possibly that Spurs may finish above Arsenal one year, but it's very unlikely.

What makes you ask that? Arsenal have started the season really well.

Deleted user 1 October 2012 11:55:28

Oh dear god! I had no idea things were THAT bad.

Deleted user 1 October 2012 11:58:17

THFourteen wrote:
TBH if you had listened to me last season when i said that you'd have been much better off

Ah, so that's why we didn't hear a peep out of you for 99% of last season then. Makes sense.

mikew1985 1 Oct 2012 12:59:59 14,512 posts
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ecureuil wrote:
This is how desperate we are.

OH. DEAR. GOD.

Dougs 1 Oct 2012 13:02:03 85,270 posts
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Lol, he was training with us a few weeks ago too.

Deleted user 1 October 2012 13:55:39

Saturday's win has moved us above Villa for the first time in the all-time PL table. We're now 5th.

Liverpool next. Just 200 or so points to make up.

Mr_Sleep 1 Oct 2012 13:59:39 21,645 posts
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roz123 wrote:

Some people are going to be so disappointed

There will be a poster in six months where it says "Time is Over" and has Heskey lying in a heap on the floor.

Ultrasoundwave 1 Oct 2012 14:03:06 5,695 posts
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24% - Sunderland have the best chance conversion rate in the Premier League, but the worst shooting accuracy (33%). Quirk.

Um, I can't get my head round that.

nickthegun 1 Oct 2012 14:10:50 73,345 posts
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Presumably its because they either hit the back of the net or the carpark.

mikew1985 1 Oct 2012 14:11:53 14,512 posts
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Depends what they clssify as a chance.

Must not be counting all shots as chances. You'd have to wonder what definition they do have for a chance then though.

faux-C 1 Oct 2012 14:12:07 11,204 posts
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kalel wrote:
Saturday's win has moved us above Villa for the first time in the all-time PL table. We're now 5th.

Liverpool next. Just 200 or so points to make up.

All-time Premier League table my arse. The all-time top division table is the only one to look at. You're 7th on that btw

Deleted user 1 October 2012 14:14:28

Actually the current PL table is the only one that really counts, but I'll understand why you'd prefer the one you're referring to.

Deleted user 1 October 2012 14:16:16

mikew1985 wrote:

ecureuil wrote:
This is how desperate we are.

OH. DEAR. GOD.

Oh, fuck me ragged. If they're that desperate, I'll dig my old boots out and give them a couple of games. At 40 I'll class as a promising youngster.

Tom_Servo 1 Oct 2012 14:20:03 18,079 posts
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kalel wrote:

24% - Sunderland have the best chance conversion rate in the Premier League, but the worst shooting accuracy (33%). Quirk.
Um, I can't get my head round that.

Fletcher has also scored all of their goals so far. Bit early to start saying they're a one-man team, but if he's injured soon it could be interesting to see what happens to them.

Mr_Sleep 1 Oct 2012 14:20:25 21,645 posts
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kalel wrote:
Saturday's win has moved us above Villa for the first time in the all-time PL table. We're now 5th.

Mark is sad.

Deleted user 1 October 2012 14:22:50

So, after wiping away the tears I realised that silvestre and his deflated balloon head coming back makes sense given the utd policy of beating defenders senseless in training every week. Better to have silvestre at the back than carrick.

But then, the realisation that getting that chump back again would improve our defensive options made me weep again.

oceanmotion 1 Oct 2012 14:23:21 17,318 posts
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ecureuil wrote:
This is how desperate we are.

Anyone think Rio was a bit lacking at the weekend. His lack of pace was quite something and perhaps not as sharp with reading the game now either. I don't think Silvestre is any better though. Good to see Fletcher back, he might offer some protection while they struggle through it. Teams should go for it more than usual, could be some tasty high score games.

Deleted user 1 October 2012 14:24:58

The problem with rio is that he's not old enough. That and having a spine constructed off tissue paper, Elastoplast and the abstract concept of hope.

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