Following Automatic Watches - Accuracy Page 7

  • elstoof 23 Apr 2018 12:21:50 28,125 posts
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    If you’re into mechanical watches then complications are a natural progression really. I only really wear dress watches personally but I wouldn’t say no to a Datograph on my wrist. I just struggle to find that kind of watch that I think suits me, 40mm is already too big for my taste and chronos are generally bigger than that in this day and age
  • Deleted user 23 April 2018 12:23:44
    In reference to my post from the previous page, this is the one I think:



    Damn. Better start saving.

    Edited by KnuttinAtoll at 12:26:45 23-04-2018
  • yegon 23 Apr 2018 12:29:21 6,511 posts
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    I’d kill for one of those 60th anniversary LE Railmasters. Bracelet on it a bit shiny for my tastes, it’d look exquisite on leather, but it’s very overpriced for what it is. Omega sure do love slapping LE on stuff and adding £2k to the price.

    I love the ‘57 Railmaster but I’ve always been too scared to buy vintage for multiple reasons.

    Edited by yegon at 12:31:24 23-04-2018
  • Technoishmatt 23 Apr 2018 12:38:01 5,365 posts
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    i just dont like the wide outer rims.
  • Dirtbox 23 Apr 2018 12:42:38 92,595 posts
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    Okay, last post

    I think it's all about tradition just as much as having precision engineered machine on your wrist that performs a valuable function without the extra complications.

    All watches have been made redundant from their original tasks. Divers use dive computers, and a dive watch that goes beyond 200m is completely redundant and the diver would be dead long before then. Racing chronographs are absolutely pointless, not least because of the digital age. Fliegers and aviation watches, just as pointless for the same reasons. I don't know anyone that knows how to use the tachymeter on a bezel.

    I think the only one left that still has a purpose is dress watches and all they do is get you to the church on time for your big day.

    So really wear what you like, it's an affectation, but at least it's got one solid use.
  • gamingdave 23 Apr 2018 13:00:16 5,087 posts
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    elstoof wrote:
    Heh, yeah sounds about right. Still, I don’t think you’re a “proper” collector unless you’ve had a few Rolexes (I’m not a proper collector)
    The only Rolex I want (and will get when I find the right one) is an Oysterquartz. Well, I would like a El Primero powered Daytona, but the prices of those have gone through the roof.

    I do have a lovely Tudor Snowflake however, which IMO trumps the Sub every day (I can't get on with Mercedes hands, and can't afford a milsub) and is as close to a Rolex you can get (without saying Rolex on the dial, but it is a Rolex case, bracelet and crown).

    The beauty of watches is there are interesting pieces available at all price points. As has been mentioned, Seiko make great watches to suit all budgets from under £100 to £5000+.

    Dirtbox wrote:
    Okay, last post

    I think it's all about tradition just as much as having precision engineered machine on your wrist that performs a valuable function without the extra complications.

    All watches have been made redundant from their original tasks. Divers use dive computers, and a dive watch that goes beyond 200m is completely redundant and the diver would be dead long before then. Racing chronographs are absolutely pointless, not least because of the digital age. Fliegers and aviation watches, just as pointless for the same reasons. I don't know anyone that knows how to use the tachymeter on a bezel.

    I think the only one left that still has a purpose is dress watches and all they do is get you to the church on time for your big day.

    So really wear what you like, it's an affectation, but at least it's got one solid use.
    I have a few divers but would never get deeper than a couple of meters (and most are vintage, so I wouldn't wear them swimming anyway). Got a few chronos, and can read a tachymeter, though I never need too, but they do get used for timing when cooking. Used to own an Memomatic and did use the alarm from time to time.

    So I wouldn't say they had been made redundant from their original tasks, even if I rarely use the complications. For me, their primary task is telling the time, and they do that well.

    Today I am wearing a Dornbluth simply because I like it, and I get pleasure from simply looking at it. Yesterday wore a Casio 91W because I was down the skatepark.

    The Casio probably keeps better time, and cost less than a tenner, but it doesn't look like this.

  • Technoishmatt 23 Apr 2018 13:02:54 5,365 posts
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    @gamingdave i cant even see the hands on that one.
  • Dirtbox 23 Apr 2018 13:08:12 92,595 posts
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    A couple of meters isn't diving and using a stopwatch to time food is only any good if you're staring at your watch. I've got a timer stuck to the fridge with a magnet that does a better job because it beeps when it's done it's countdown.

    That said, I wouldn't swap my watch collection for anything, they're important to me because they're beautiful objects that bring me joy. I wouldn't say any of them have a use that isn't bettered a dozen ways, but there they are regardless. It's pure pretention and I'm okay with that.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 23 Apr 2018 13:12:01 23,013 posts
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    KnuttinAtoll wrote:
    In reference to my post from the previous page, this is the one I think:



    Damn. Better start saving.
    Heh, taste is such a personal thing. I literally hate every single thing about this watch :D
  • Deleted user 23 April 2018 13:16:52
    @You-can-call-me-kal hehe, and that's the beauty of it isn't it:) Would be bland and boring otherwise
  • gamingdave 23 Apr 2018 13:18:35 5,087 posts
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    I don't disagree, but there use for me is primarily telling the time, and I don't have anything else that does that better. Some of mine may run +/-15 seconds a day, but I don't need to be more accurate than that. Mind, my Grand Seiko was still spot when the clocks changed from the last reset.

    Whilst my phone may be more accurate, getting it out the pocket to look at it is more of a faff (and even then, without opening an app it doesnt show me the seconds so the precision point is moot).

    I wouldn't say pretension, more appreciation, but yes there are some blingy monstrosities out there that are purely for show.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 23 Apr 2018 13:19:55 23,013 posts
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    KnuttinAtoll wrote:
    @You-can-call-me-kal hehe, and that's the beauty of it isn't it:) Would be bland and boring otherwise
    Quite.

    Still, I'm amazed you consider that subdued and subtle as a piece of a design. Those numbers alone are MASSIVE AND VERY SHOWEY!! Not to mention that it's orange! Hate to see what you consider an ostentatious watch! ;-)
  • nickthegun 23 Apr 2018 13:20:11 87,711 posts
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    A manager on another team treated himself to a U-boat for his 40 and it's absolutely heinous.
  • yegon 23 Apr 2018 13:21:20 6,511 posts
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    Yeah it’s all personal taste. I flat do not like chronographs, I appreciate the lore surrounding the Speedy but the look of it does less than zero for me.
  • Dirtbox 23 Apr 2018 13:23:32 92,595 posts
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    @gamingdave put it whichever way you're comfortable with, I suppose that's all part of the enjoyment of a cool piece of engineering on your wrist, regardless of its form or function.
  • Deleted user 23 April 2018 13:34:33
    Well, I think that's the watch I've seen on that colleague chap. It's been 4-5 years - I do admit the model in the pic I posted is a bit heavy on the orange, but his looked quite subtle indeed, like only the second hand being orange and the rest black/steel. Definitely not a dress watch that's for sure, the latter of which isn't something I'd be into personally (you probably figured by now).

    There are so many different variations, it's hard to know which one it really was - for example the series model I have changed a fair bit in terms of design over the years, mine is the 2014 version I believe, and I have to admit I don't really like the more recent ones that much.

    But ostentatious, well. I've met an older guy as part of a company dinner once, he was wearing a Breitling and *that* for certain came across as LOOK AT ME-ish. Too many colours (4-5 iirc) and way too big, even though he had normal man-wrists. Golden watches are also something I wouldn't touch with a bargepole, I just find them tacky (Rolex or Argos, doesn't matter).

    Edited by KnuttinAtoll at 13:36:04 23-04-2018
  • yegon 23 Apr 2018 13:47:56 6,511 posts
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    Omega lets itself down with the billion different variations of the same watch. Their attempt to move upmarket is undermined by this imo.

    I never understand the drooling and fapping over a new/old Rolex that have a bit of red in a specific place, or a slight variation on an existing bezel, but the tactic works brilliantly for Rolex. The price of these pieces is typically exponentially higher than the stock version. Omega could learn from that, they take it to the other extreme.
  • elstoof 23 Apr 2018 14:16:51 28,125 posts
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    gamingdave wrote:

    Whilst my phone may be more accurate, getting it out the pocket to look at it is more of a faff
    As they say, the wristwatch killed the pocketwatch, and now the phone in your pocket is killing the wristwatch. Once or write I’ve caught myself checking the time on my phone despite wearing a watch every day for the past 7 years and feeling undressed without one on
  • elstoof 23 Apr 2018 14:17:54 28,125 posts
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    Also, that orange Omega is rank. Get a hold of yourself man
  • Dirtbox 23 Apr 2018 17:25:34 92,595 posts
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    Was it the Seamaster Spectre? Has a strong vintage aesthetic that I quite like. Looks a bit like a Sinn 104.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 17:35:48 23-04-2018
  • gamingdave 23 Apr 2018 17:58:10 5,087 posts
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    Wasn't a massive fan of the Spectre, but then I'm not a fan of broadarrow hands, or triangular hour markers. But I like what they were doing taking inspiration from the older models, and they got the dimensions spot on.

    Not a fan of most modern Omega's really though. Short of a Seamaster 2254 (which is nearly 10 years old) most of mine are from the 60's and 70's. IMO no-one could touch them during that period for innovation, and the design department were nailing it.

    They were also a lot more "affordable" at the time compared to today.
  • Dirtbox 23 Apr 2018 18:03:42 92,595 posts
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    I don't like a lot of the hands on watches, especially divers. Rolex mercedes is probably the worst of all.
  • Deleted user 23 April 2018 18:05:13
    Dirtbox wrote:
    Was it the Seamaster Spectre? Has a strong vintage aesthetic that I quite like. Looks a bit like a Sinn 104.
    Definitely wasn't. I'm starting to doubt myself now with the orange bits, the image I posted I admit it's a bit too much (especially on the bezel).

    I somehow seem to remember that it was very lightly used, as I said second hand and/or the minute markers, but not more than that.

    Or I could just be totally wrong and remember it to be nicer than it really was... it's not like I managed to pull his hand closer to inspect it in detail.

    Come to think of it, the Spectre style would probably fare better in the long term. I bought an orange (like, PROPER full face Lucozaded stylee) watch before and got sick of it pretty quickly. Guess I got a few more years/decades to think it through!
  • You-can-call-me-kal 23 Apr 2018 18:22:13 23,013 posts
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    Speaking of which, what are those watches that are properly neon coloured and look like they might be ceramic? My old ECD used to where one and there's no way he'd have worn it if it wasn't stupidly expensive, but it was the most tasteless thing I think I've ever witnessed.
  • Dirtbox 23 Apr 2018 18:26:47 92,595 posts
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    A Hublot maybe. Even their most understated watches are prime examples of garish vulgarity. Or Richard Mille maybe.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 18:28:20 23-04-2018
  • Tonka 23 Apr 2018 18:28:20 31,979 posts
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    Had the Kronaby hybrid watch craze reached the UK or is that just a swedish thing?
  • Tonka 23 Apr 2018 18:29:38 31,979 posts
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    @You-can-call-me-kal maybe one of those plastic watches that weaseled their way into the hearts of the salmon shorts crowd?
  • Dirtbox 23 Apr 2018 18:32:15 92,595 posts
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    Not particularly, but there are loads of different hybrid watches. Fossil, Skagen, Nokia, Garmin and even Frederique Constant make them.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 23 Apr 2018 18:34:51 23,013 posts
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    I dunno what it was. It looked like a cheapo Toy Box thing but I'm sure it was proper ceramic. It looked really expensive.

    Anyway, doesn't matter.
  • Tonka 23 Apr 2018 18:41:56 31,979 posts
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    @Dirtbox Nokia? I keep hearing about me Nokia phones but I didn't know they made semi smart watches
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