Wii 2 or new Nintendo console; will it happen this year or next year. Page 6

  • NBZ 25 Apr 2011 14:54:15 2,425 posts
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    Dolly wrote:
    Possible image of Project Cafe

    Nintendo specifically naming an opponent console in marketing material?

    I would guess it is fake.
  • Tom_Servo 25 Apr 2011 14:56:30 18,079 posts
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    I don't think it's marketing material, it looks more likely to be a PowerPoint shown to developers. It mentions the SDK in the slide, so I'd guess that the console shown there is the development kit and not the final console itself.
  • Deleted user 25 April 2011 17:16:14
    So March 2012 Japanese launch, holiday season EU/US launch.

    16 Core PowerPC CPU, unknown GPU and 16gigs of shared ram.

    Touch screen controllers if you don't like WiiMote waggling.

    E3 is going to be mental this year :D
  • CosmicFuzz 25 Apr 2011 17:17:39 32,632 posts
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    Hehe, I can't wait for E3, watching their conference will be awesome :D
  • beastmaster 25 Apr 2011 17:22:44 22,373 posts
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    I don't mind a wee (no pun intended) gimmick. So long as they go back to having a normal non-waggle controller at the heart of it.

    I fully expect MS to announce their new console now at E3. Sonly will be busy with their NGP.
  • CosmicFuzz 25 Apr 2011 17:25:10 32,632 posts
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    Nah I would be super surprised if either MS or Sony announced a new console at E3. Not after just launching Kinect/Move. It's too much to ask of people.

    I think Wii2 will have at least a year head start on the others, probably a good few years.
  • Deleted user 25 April 2011 17:31:23
    I have to wonder what developers make of this.

    Say the new Nintendo is 10 times more powerful than the 360/PS3 but the 720/PS4 come out and are twice as powerful again there'd be a strong case for publishers and developers to build around the lowest common denominator.

    Nintendo releasing first could set a new normal and make the 360 and PS3's power struggle pointless apart from their first-party releases.
  • beastmaster 25 Apr 2011 17:35:46 22,373 posts
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    10 times more powerful? I suppose tech has moved on a lot since it first got released.
  • mrpon 25 Apr 2011 17:36:32 37,367 posts
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    Lazy post: when is E3 in June?
  • Tom_Servo 25 Apr 2011 17:38:27 18,079 posts
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    16GB of RAM? 16 cores? 10 times as powerful as the PS3/360? Where's this coming from?
  • mrpon 25 Apr 2011 17:38:35 37,367 posts
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    Sorry that is so lazy I insulted myself.
    7 - 9th June.
  • NBZ 25 Apr 2011 17:49:46 2,425 posts
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    Tom_Servo wrote:
    16GB of RAM? 16 cores? 10 times as powerful as the PS3/360? Where's this coming from?

    the rumours dont suggest such specs - more closer to teh Xbox 360 and ahead in some ways, behind in others. Maybe even using slight updates of the same compontents.
  • Ignatius_Cheese Moderator 25 Apr 2011 17:53:11 11,104 posts
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    Tom_Servo wrote:
    16GB of RAM? 16 cores? 10 times as powerful as the PS3/360? Where's this coming from?
    El_MUERkO's backside ;o)

    Current rumours are 3 Core PowerPC at a higher clock speed than 360, a high spec RX700 GPU and around 512 RAM.
  • neilka 25 Apr 2011 17:58:03 24,026 posts
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    The cafe is a lie.
  • Deleted user 25 April 2011 18:03:12
    Needs more than 512MB that's fo dam sho aaaaand hopefully something better than a poxy 4770 n'all! o_0

    Screw the casual market and get back to proper gaming. Put out something beastly and tempt third-party devs/publishers back! Include a versatile and easy to use online system 'cause that's what the kids like and there ya go.
  • Deleted user 25 April 2011 18:04:36
    It's not a PC you bellend!!! :D
  • Deleted user 25 April 2011 18:05:28
    Ignatius_Cheese wrote:
    Tom_Servo wrote:
    16GB of RAM? 16 cores? 10 times as powerful as the PS3/360? Where's this coming from?
    El_MUERkO's backside ;o)

    Current rumours are 3 Core PowerPC at a higher clock speed than 360, a high spec RX700 GPU and around 512 RAM.
    360 has a higher clock than my PC and is many times slower.
  • mal 25 Apr 2011 18:05:48 29,326 posts
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    The design of the case is going to be the interesting thing for me. The 360 was pushing the thermal limits when it came out, which is probably the main reason so many of the damn things fell over. The gamecube used a pretty clever design that (IIRC) separated the CPU and GPU with a mahoosive heatsink and large fan which gave it its unusual shape. By the time the Wii came around, that tech had been shrunk to such a degree that it didn't produce nearly as much heat, and they could put it (plus a tiny bit more) inside a relatively slim case without cooking the insides.

    Nintendo could make a 360++ and therefore put it in a compact slim case using modern tech, but the rumours aren't suggesting that. The rumoured xbox style case was only that shape because of the internal PSU and the relative complexity of the motherboard. A properly designed games console shouldn't need a big motherboard, unless heat is a massive concern.

    Edit: One fan does not a fan array make
  • Deleted user 25 April 2011 18:16:05
    grr! -_-
  • ResidentKnievel 25 Apr 2011 18:44:34 7,679 posts
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    512MB of ram? Can you even buy such small amounts these days?

    The 4770 sounds fine, if true, we're not going to be playing above 1080p so it shouldn't be a bottleneck like the ram could be.
  • Deleted user 25 April 2011 18:49:23
    Christ on a bike, it doesn't have Windows, Linux or OSX running in the background you know.
  • ResidentKnievel 25 Apr 2011 18:51:02 7,679 posts
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    CrispyXUK64 wrote:
    Christ on a bike, it doesn't have Windows, Linux or OSX running in the background you know.

    I know, but it would be nice to give developers a bit of headroom over previous consoles.
  • Deleted user 25 April 2011 18:52:55
    Or reasonably modern mobiles.
  • Deleted user 25 April 2011 18:53:47
    For a start, it's not confirmed and secondly you've no idea how it interacts with the rest of the system.

    Historically Nintendo have always had stupidly fast ram.
  • Deleted user 25 April 2011 19:06:32
    El_MUERkO wrote:
    I have to wonder what developers make of this.

    Say the new Nintendo is 10 times more powerful than the 360/PS3 but the 720/PS4 come out and are twice as powerful again there'd be a strong case for publishers and developers to build around the lowest common denominator.

    Nintendo releasing first could set a new normal and make the 360 and PS3's power struggle pointless apart from their first-party releases.
    This. Nintendo could be making quite a shrewd move here. I think 3rd parties would like to put their stuff onto Nintendo's console but it would take too much work due to the tech constraints and the effort required for the motion controller, not to mention Nintendo's consoles not being about those sorts of games.

    Iwata said about 5 years ago that we're reaching the limit of graphical achievement so don't expect it to be that much more powerful than the PS3/360.
  • MrWorf 25 Apr 2011 19:16:04 64,193 posts
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    That or they'll be in the same situation as the Wii was with cross platform titles.
  • Tonka 25 Apr 2011 19:17:13 31,980 posts
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    This thread makes for a good read. Heh, I thought Xbork 720 would be out by now. Other than that there are a few good guestimates made.
  • axman303 25 Apr 2011 21:18:35 113 posts
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    Has the 'Vitality Sensor' been delayed for Wii in order to include it in 'Project Café', much like Zelda was? And, er, will Zelda again be a dual-format release for both Wii in SD and 'Project Café' in SD? Ooh, and will we see dual-format disc releases from Nintendo where the disc contains both the Wii and 'Project Café' versions? So many questions, so few answers...
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