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What has happened to MOT? • Page 6
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Nemesis 20,312 posts
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Registered 20 years agopjmaybe wrote:
Nemesis wrote:
Dead sheep?
More like two trillion litres of Viagra..
I'm saying nowt more.
Peej
Like some crazy English Yule Brenner on a sugar rush.
And a onetwothree onetwothree.
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pjmaybe 70,666 posts
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Registered 20 years agoHeh.
Git!
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Registered 20 years agoWOPR wrote:
M.E. still seems to be a very touchy area. Victor Lewis Smith often used to point out that it was odd that people in third world countries that had to get up and do stuff or otherwise they'd die strangely never suffered with M.E.
Having said that I know someone at work who's just been diagnosed with it. But will she give up smoking, drinking or try changing diet to see if that helps? Will she cock. I have a sometimes chronic rheumatic problem that is only ever going to get worse and I do everything I can to try and help it, other people don't seem to be arsed though.
I'm trying not to get drawn into this one. I would say it's partly to do with mental attitude but there's definitely something biological going on too...
Still, good old VLS...fair point.
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pjmaybe 70,666 posts
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Registered 20 years agoWOPR wrote:
I'm not trying to stir it, but I have to say I've always been very sceptical about it. The whole 'yuppie flu' tag never exactly helped it's cause did it.
Too true.
It's definitely not been properly looked into. Ali's cousin though, I can't see why she would choose to be stuck in bed in a darkened room, missing any number of family events (missed our wedding for instance and had to have it relayed via a webcam/phone linkup) if ME is just down to "someone being a bone idle bastard"
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mooth-EcToX 3,619 posts
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Its a very tricky one this M.E thing. I knew a bloke at uni who had it, and it spurred him on to be one of the most active and motivated people I know.
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Registered 20 years agoGood call kiddo!
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Shinji 5,902 posts
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Registered 20 years agoI've always seen ME as being a bit like dyslexia. It's real, it exists, and it's a serious issue for real sufferers - but it's also got a whole bunch of people going "oooh, I have that!" when they have nothing of the sort. Which of course gives the genuine sufferers a bad name.
The dyslexia thing really bothers me. Almost every time you pull up someone for their writing, you get an "oh I'm dyslexic so I can't help it"... Er, no, pal. You're not. You just can't be bothered, that's your problem. (This pretty much got reinforced by the fact that one of my closest friends has very severe dyslexia and took years to learn to read properly as a child, and is now one of the most clear and well-written individuals I know...)
VLS doesn't consider the possibility that ME could have a genetic root cause, and as such would have been wiped out in third world countries and only resurfaced in the first world. Or the possibility that it's triggered by food additives, as many mental and physical problems are. -
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Registered 20 years agoShinji wrote:
I've always seen ME as being a bit like dyslexia. It's real, it exists, and it's a serious issue for real sufferers - but it's also got a whole bunch of people going "oooh, I have that!" when they have nothing of the sort. Which of course gives the genuine sufferers a bad name.
Good post that, and specifically the bit quoted above. It's a very serious issue for sufferers in that it's massively difficult for them to sum up the energy to put what they're going through into a cohesive enough argument to convince the layman that they're not just slacking off..
Ali's cousin has been bedridden with it from the age of 18 till now, some ten years later. Picture that for a second if you will, ten years of your life - in fact (for some people at least) THE best ten years of your life. Even the laziest bastard in the world wouldn't do that to themselves, surely?
Worse still than having it is the long struggle uphill to get out of it. Mrs Peej managed it through sheer stubborn will power and a fair amount of help from a sympathetic GP otherwise I've no doubt she'd still be there now..
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Nemesis 20,312 posts
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Registered 20 years agoWOPR wrote:
I bet people in the third world don't suffer from 'wheat intolerance' either!
/leaves before he gets a beating
Ohhh. I dated a girl that suffered from that, and it's not a nice thing. Cooking was OK, because you can work around it, but going out for meals was a nightmare. Poor girl. -
Nope. Bread coating.
It's in loads more stuff than you think. If she had something with wheat in, she'd go all puffy and upchuck and be really bad for about 3-4 days. Really quite nasty.
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