The Autotune / Vocoder thread

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  • Genji 1 Apr 2011 00:18:52 19,682 posts
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    So I was at the pub the other day. There wasn't much on the TV in terms of sport, and the conversation was progressing towards areas out of my interest. So I started listening to the music on in the background.

    And I swear, about 90% of the songs I heard had some sort of Autotune / Vocoder thing going on somewhere. And in about 80% of those songs, the use of that technology was very noticable. Not sparingly used at all.

    Isn't it wonderful? I just love those tunes that dare to adapt to the newest technology, and use them in their own ways to give each new R&B song a certain flavour, that unique colour that only Autotune can deliver.

    I also love it for its democratising spirit. Now, little girls with dreams of fame can no longer feel discouraged from all of those mean performing arts schools and agents rejecting them because of a lack of "ability" or "talent". Make a wrong note? No worries! We can fix that right up for ya! As shown by Rebecca Black, now literally anybody can become a pop star!

    I love it so much. How about you? How about everyone post their favorites?
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    Do you beLIEEEEEEEEEVE in life after loOOOOVE?
  • Jazzy_Geoff 1 Apr 2011 00:27:21 8,068 posts
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    Rage_Quit_Rob wrote:
    Do you beLIEEEEEEEEEVE in life after loOOOOVE?

    indeed. fucking cher.
  • VandelayIndustries 1 Apr 2011 00:28:59 1,524 posts
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    I've been listening to a lot of Kiss FM and Capital FM at work in the last few weeks and almost every song on their playlists features that god-awful effect. Complete and total homogenization.
  • mrpon 1 Apr 2011 00:30:49 37,367 posts
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    That George Michael one someone posted recently. Warble overdrive.
  • VandelayIndustries 1 Apr 2011 00:38:16 1,524 posts
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    Frightful.
  • Deleted user 1 April 2011 00:40:38
    My favourite voice manipulation song, and one of my favourite songs is Harder, Better... by Daft Punk. I must have listened to it four thousand times when that album first came out. Brilliant.
  • Genji 1 Apr 2011 00:50:15 19,682 posts
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    Yeah, it's very good when used with electronica.
  • L42yB 15 Apr 2011 12:22:28 1,672 posts
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    This is why autotune is awesome! :)

    They take news footage and autotune it into songs.

    Seriously, if you haven't heard any of it start here:

    Bed Intruder - Original Interview

    Bed Intruder ITunes version
  • BreadBinLidHero 15 Apr 2011 12:25:36 10,803 posts
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    It's used a lot as an effect rather than to correct substandard singing. Autotune is undetectable to most ears when used to correct minor mistakes.

    Although it is obviously used to make people who are quite poor passable singers.
  • Biggy316 15 Apr 2011 12:29:45 25,288 posts
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    Is there anywhere I can download a free Autotuner thingy?

    I have an app on my Desire and would like to fuck about with something abit more advanced.

    Just for a giggle like.
  • Fab4 15 Apr 2011 12:33:46 8,924 posts
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    L42yB wrote:
    This is why autotune is awesome! :)

    They take news footage and autotune it into songs.

    Seriously, if you haven't heard any of it start here:

    Bed Intruder - Original Interview

    Bed Intruder ITunes version

    That's actually quite impressive...and also a little bit saddening.
  • thedaveeyres 15 Apr 2011 12:38:10 13,925 posts
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    As other have said, it can be used as a force for good... like Daft Punk. Kanye West - 808's and Heartbreak is almost entirely autotuned. Might not be to everyone's tastes but it's certainly pushing boundaries.
  • L42yB 15 Apr 2011 12:45:09 1,672 posts
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    The Obama singing Replay is probably one of the best!
  • Craig0702 15 Apr 2011 12:48:10 2,178 posts
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    L42yB wrote:
    This is why autotune is awesome! :)

    They take news footage and autotune it into songs.

    Seriously, if you haven't heard any of it start here:

    Bed Intruder - Original Interview

    Bed Intruder ITunes version

    "You don't have to come and confess, we're looking for you... we gon fiiiiiind you, we gon fiiiiiiiind you!"

    I do love Antoine Dodson. Now I've got that stuck in my head \o/
  • L42yB 15 Apr 2011 12:59:07 1,672 posts
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    Fab4 wrote:
    That's actually quite impressive...and also a little bit saddening.

    I think it's a great idea. And the songs they write are catchy! They encourage people to do their own versions and some of them are actually really good.

    They did a song called Im not a witch and a band called Roomie did a really good cover:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHpud3QmLzM&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_108497

    That cover version is so awesome, it is now in my playlist :)

    EDIT: Sorry, link trouble :s
  • Rufus 15 Apr 2011 13:07:14 1,872 posts
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    Imogen Heap's 'Hide and Seek' and Bon Iver's 'Woods' are pretty much the only two examples of autotune/vocoding/singing jiggery pokery that I really like.

    Though the 'Dude, can't handle it' on schmoyo's Charlie Sheen Winning song has me in hysterics ever time I hear it. Fantastic stuff.
  • Fab4 15 Apr 2011 13:23:15 8,924 posts
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    L42yB wrote:
    Fab4 wrote:
    That's actually quite impressive...and also a little bit saddening.

    I think it's a great idea. And the songs they write are catchy! They encourage people to do their own versions and some of them are actually really good.


    I don't have a problem with those guys and the songs they make...they are the ones I find impressive. The problem I have is that the technology is clearly quite advanced, that it can make really bad singers sound good and no-one will ever know the difference. Probably lead further to the homogenization of pop....'pretty people never singing out of key, but in a cloned voice'
  • Genji 15 Apr 2011 13:57:35 19,682 posts
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    Yes, it is the sameyness that worries me the most.

    But I suppose it will go out of vogue soon enough.
  • L42yB 15 Apr 2011 14:00:52 1,672 posts
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    Fab4 wrote:
    I don't have a problem with those guys and the songs they make...they are the ones I find impressive. The problem I have is that the technology is clearly quite advanced, that it can make really bad singers sound good and no-one will ever know the difference. Probably lead further to the homogenization of pop....'pretty people never singing out of key, but in a cloned voice'

    In the past record companies have just used backing tracks and had the stars mime. Nothing has changed, there has been a legion of beautiful but talentless stars already and there will be many more to come.

    The truth is that these "talentless" stars actually have teams of incredibly talented writers, producers, engineers and session musicians behind them. They could never have an audience as big as they do without loads of talented people behind the scenes. We give undue credit to many "stars", but that is the way of things. People seem to like the illusion that, say, Justin Bieber writes his own songs. It makes the story better, and we love a good story much better than the truth ;)
  • Fab4 15 Apr 2011 14:09:46 8,924 posts
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    L42yB wrote:
    Fab4 wrote:
    I don't have a problem with those guys and the songs they make...they are the ones I find impressive. The problem I have is that the technology is clearly quite advanced, that it can make really bad singers sound good and no-one will ever know the difference. Probably lead further to the homogenization of pop....'pretty people never singing out of key, but in a cloned voice'

    In the past record companies have just used backing tracks and had the stars mime. Nothing has changed, there has been a legion of beautiful but talentless stars already and there will be many more to come.

    The truth is that these "talentless" stars actually have teams of incredibly talented writers, producers, engineers and session musicians behind them. They could never have an audience as big as they do without loads of talented people behind the scenes. We give undue credit to many "stars", but that is the way of things. People seem to like the illusion that, say, Justin Bieber writes his own songs. It makes the story better, and we love a good story much better than the truth ;)

    That's why I like prog...if you can't play an 11/8 time signature live you are dead to me ;)
  • L42yB 15 Apr 2011 14:16:01 1,672 posts
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    Fab4 wrote:
    That's why I like prog...if you can't play an 11/8 time signature live you are dead to me ;)

    You realise that your name is a reference to one of the bands that started all this...?

    ;)
  • Fab4 15 Apr 2011 14:16:40 8,924 posts
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    L42yB wrote:
    Fab4 wrote:
    That's why I like prog...if you can't play an 11/8 time signature live you are dead to me ;)

    You realise that your name is a reference to one of the bands that started all this...?

    ;)

    You realise I'm an Arsenal fan? ;)
  • VandelayIndustries 27 Apr 2011 21:31:05 1,524 posts
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    O_o

    Even used on the obligatory rap too.
  • Deleted user 27 April 2011 22:00:57
    Vocodery loveliness:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jw7u4f-Ujg

    EDIT: though the video does break my first rule of music videos by having sound effects playing over the song.
  • coolbritannia 1 May 2011 11:04:50 1,339 posts
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    RabidChild wrote:
    Vocodery loveliness:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jw7u4f-Ujg

    Pure win, love the SFA. I'm buying a Electro harmonix voice box, they're awesome bits of kit.
    Courtesy of Pomplamoose
  • Deleted user 1 May 2011 12:10:07
    For the record, autotune and vocoders are completely different things. Different in many ways but primarily because vocoders are ace and autotune is shit and was originally used to minutely adjust out of tune vocals, it's a very handy program that has been abused to create audio poo.
  • FWB 1 May 2011 12:12:25 56,369 posts
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    SFA are awesome, but Juxtaposed with U is poor. Very poor.
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