Charlie Brooker's Black Mirror Page 27

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  • chopsen 6 Jan 2019 14:46:05 20,482 posts
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    Exactly. Phillip K Dick's "yeah but what *is* reality?" mind bending stuff still stands up today and isengrossing to read, even if the actual ideas themselves are sci fi staples bordering on the cliche these days. This...less so.

    It's clever clever in the way it executes stuff, and is undoubtedly innovative, but didn't really connect with me.

    >I think it's a mistake to separate the in universe narrative and the interactive element with this.

    Kind of the whole premise of the thing, no? It's an interactive experience where your actions often don't matter about a universe where free will is an illusion.

    Edited by chopsen at 14:46:36 06-01-2019
  • RyanDS 6 Jan 2019 15:05:34 12,712 posts
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    drhickman1983 wrote:
    Oh it's fairly clever thematically compared to a lot of stuff out there, but clever =/= engrossing
    I can see this. I found it engrossing but I am the exact age it is aimed at. I grew up programming in the spectrum, playing Choose you own adventures etc so it is a straight 10/10 for me as it is the perfect combination of nostalgia, good acting and commentary and story. But I can see why others give it lower scores. Hell I can even see why people find it boring.

    However I think you canít argue it gets 10/10 for innovation, execution and just being something new and well done though.
  • Deleted user 6 January 2019 15:15:07
    It was plop
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 6 Jan 2019 15:19:39 9,948 posts
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    It was pua mint



    IDEMT
  • drhickman1983 6 Jan 2019 15:25:13 5,858 posts
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    RyanDS wrote:
    drhickman1983 wrote:
    Oh it's fairly clever thematically compared to a lot of stuff out there, but clever =/= engrossing
    I can see this. I found it engrossing but I am the exact age it is aimed at. I grew up programming in the spectrum, playing Choose you own adventures etc so it is a straight 10/10 for me as it is the perfect combination of nostalgia, good acting and commentary and story. But I can see why others give it lower scores. Hell I can even see why people find it boring.

    However I think you canít argue it gets 10/10 for innovation, execution and just being something new and well done though.
    I appreciated the nostalgia, I grew up playing on a Spectrum, albeit a bit too young to actually try any coding myself (well, I did some BASIC stuff from some guidebooks. But yeah, seeing the period correct art work and Jet Set Willy posters and stuff was cool. I also read a few CYOA books, but this didn't really click for me.
  • cowell 9 Jan 2019 10:14:45 1,863 posts
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    Bandersnatch was mediocre and by far quite weak for a BM episode and yet I can't help but think I still enjoyed it. I've been on a few different playthroughs and I really admire the love and craft that has gone into it. It's still quite a clever piece of creative art, even if its not a great film/tv show
  • Lotos8ter 9 Jan 2019 17:15:18 2,752 posts
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    I'm with RyanDS - thought it was excellent. I grew up with my Speccy, still remember spending the day typing in a Pac-man program from a magazine. Nothing's ever rivalled escaping that dungeon in The Hobbit (Say to Thorin "Carry me").

    Bandersnatch can do no wrong in this house.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 12 Jan 2019 07:06:34 9,948 posts
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    No I wrote Stairway to Heaven

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jan/11/netflix-black-mirror-bandersnatch-choose-your-own-adventure-lawsuit
  • hedben2013 12 Jan 2019 08:42:46 1,051 posts
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    Choose Your Own Adventure is the Hoover of interactive storytelling- if someone says they read a Choose Your Own Adventure book I wouldn't assume it was one by that particular company.

    (Preferred Fighting Fantasy as a kid anyway- although I rarely if ever played them properly with dice and stats)
  • Psychotext 16 Jan 2019 23:06:07 64,919 posts
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    I quite enjoyed it... maybe I lack free will?
  • cowell 17 Jan 2019 09:59:57 1,863 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    I quite enjoyed it... maybe I lack free will?
    *finishes bowl of Sugar Puffs*

    *grabs ash tray*

    I thought it had its flaws. I also think it isnt the greatest that BM has to offer, but I still thought it was a really fine piece of work. Felt like a labour of love

    Edited by cowell at 10:02:43 17-01-2019
  • cowell 15 May 2019 11:22:05 1,863 posts
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  • DakeyrasUK 15 May 2019 11:29:09 2,641 posts
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    Sweet! Looking forward to it!
  • KnuttinAtoll 15 May 2019 11:47:44 7,029 posts
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    This came out of nowhere, and out in 3 weeks! Lovely
  • Psychotext 15 May 2019 12:21:53 64,919 posts
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    AWWYISSS.
  • billythekid 15 May 2019 12:36:26 12,330 posts
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    Just three episodes though :(
  • Psychotext 15 May 2019 12:56:24 64,919 posts
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    AWWWNOOOOO.
  • Kay 15 May 2019 13:45:13 19,996 posts
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    Intrigued by that little Street Fighter bit...
  • Joyless_Man 15 May 2019 15:04:06 108 posts
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    Meh.

    I'd rather have more Wipe shows that Black Mirror at this point.
  • TechnoHippy 15 May 2019 17:03:48 14,858 posts
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    Joyless_Man wrote:
    Meh.

    I'd rather have more Wipe shows that Black Mirror at this point.
    Username delivers :-)
  • SweetMrGibs 15 May 2019 17:18:26 1,259 posts
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    @Joyless_Man Pratt.
  • Joyless_Man 15 May 2019 17:24:10 108 posts
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    SweetMrGibs wrote:
    @Joyless_Man Pratt.
    I'll take from this that you're not in fact a fan of the wipe series and would prefer more black mirror.
  • SweetMrGibs 15 May 2019 17:34:03 1,259 posts
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    @Joyless_Man wrong, for I would like more of the ruddy both of them! More Black Mirror than Screen Wipe though.
  • Joyless_Man 15 May 2019 17:38:25 108 posts
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    You can't blame him. I bet he gets about 50p from the beeb for yearly wipe and a gold toilet from Netflix for black mirror
  • SweetMrGibs 15 May 2019 17:40:39 1,259 posts
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    True, but I thought Screen Wipe was Channel 4 (can't be arsed to fact check)?
  • Joyless_Man 15 May 2019 18:01:51 108 posts
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    Beeb too I think
  • SweetMrGibs 15 May 2019 18:17:40 1,259 posts
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    BBC Four apparently. Therefore, you were 10% wrong and I was a - generous - 90% wrong.
  • Joyless_Man 15 May 2019 19:07:06 108 posts
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    Balance to the force
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 15 May 2019 23:51:17 9,948 posts
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    Niiiiiiice


    Also, that new BBC Years and Years show has a Black Mirror vibe to it by the looks of things too
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 19 May 2019 10:43:09 9,948 posts
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    Years and Years is class and Black Mirror fans should totally watch it

    RTD isn't sparing us his political fears and it's a very plausible near future
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