Following Wii U Page 544

  • macmurphy 15 Mar 2013 11:14:04 3,009 posts
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    It's still early days.

    Someone made a point about how Nintendo haven't marketed it very well. maybe they really are just waiting till more games come out. Wii Fit U, Mariokart, Smash Bros, Pikmin, when they all drop I expect to see Nintendo come out fighting.

    Don't get me wrong it looks grim, but then it looked pretty grim for the 3DS for a while. If they chuck in a price drop, actually release some games then there's still hope. Nintendo always have a chance.

    I honestly think Nintendo aren't trying to compete that much any more with the 360 and the PS3, they want to carve out this space as a second console/family fun box. That's still achievable to my mind.

    Also generally the point about having to buy all the controllers doesn't hold that much water. There's a hell of a lot of Wii's out there, a cursory look on ebay reveals motion plus attachments for about 7 quid. I've still got all my wiimotes, I can't be the only one.
  • Waffleaber 15 Mar 2013 11:14:16 685 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    AdamAsunder wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    I havent really said anything in this argument thus far other than to disagree with DM about the economic downturn. Dont be so sensitive.
    You guys turn up everytime there's bad financial news to share.

    We get it, you think the console is a waste of space.
    Its the Wii U thread, not the Wii U is awesome thread. Im genuinely disappointed because I fancy a new console and I like nintendo games.

    I think im allowed to talk about that.
    Yep I'm in the same boat. I want a Wii U but have no incentive to buy one and that upsets me.
  • jimnastics 15 Mar 2013 11:14:35 1,265 posts
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    I only bought one for whenever Zelda, Mario and Mario Kart come out (and a few select others). I was hoping that decent games might come out in the meantime, but that's not exactly happened. If I hadn't managed to get one through the Amazon 169.99 Premium pricing error, I would have flogged it by now. As it is, I haven't touched it since I gave up on Sonic racing as there was never anyone online to play against.

    It is dawning on me that I only care about Nintendo games, rather than Nintendo consoles. Of course historically they go hand in hand, but I genuinely would not be upset if Nintendo ditched consoles and just went multi-platform with their games (or even partnered up with someone new who took care of the hardware side of things... Valve + Nintendo!).

    It is depressing. I am a huge Nintendo fan, but the WiiU is (currently) a disaster. I fear only big price-cuts and a complete "let's pretend the first launch didn't happen" relaunch with Mario, Mario Kart and / or Zelda can save it.
  • Gambit1977 15 Mar 2013 11:15:07 10,396 posts
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    NOw they've announced that to DL Lego City Undercover you need an external drive!!!

    FFS Nintendo...
  • quadfather 15 Mar 2013 11:15:09 30,892 posts
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    @nickthegun - definitely this on both of your posts.

    I'm not having a pop at any Wii U owners. The point here is that I'm angry because I wanted to have a shiny console and enjoy it, like I have the other ones. We're talking from Snes days onwards here, not just the odd console. I love the fucking things and really enjoy them and I wanted that to continue.

    It's pissed me off basically
  • javvyman 15 Mar 2013 11:15:26 723 posts
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    @nickthegun Exactly, your tastes have changed, you've already decided you don't want it. Why spend all day in the thread trying to justify your decisions, do you want other people to follow your path of righteousness? Will that give you peace of mind?

    Edited by javvyman at 11:19:00 15-03-2013
  • nickthegun 15 Mar 2013 11:16:58 73,353 posts
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    Even though its a misuse, to a certain extent (and given that I hate the terminology), I do feel a certain sense of entitlement, yes.

    I felt entitled that if I bought a Wii, they would provide games for me to play on it. I would feel entitled to games had i bought a Wii U and after having me as a customer for so long, I feel entitled to demand that they pull their fingers out of their arses.
  • nickthegun 15 Mar 2013 11:20:34 73,353 posts
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    javvyman wrote:
    Why spend all day in the thread trying to justify your decisions, do you want other people to follow your path of righteousness?
    I dont spend all day in here. I only really post when there is news like this, when one of you guys brings up 'OH WE HAVENT BEEN TROLLED IN A WHILE' like weird sad-masochists or when im trolling ecosse because I find him offensive.

    Its just that discussions like this are memorable rather than 'ooh, a wild demo has been released' arent. If we didnt post there would be nothing to talk about.
  • Deleted user 15 March 2013 11:24:08
    So did anybody play that Chasing Aurora demo? Pretty boring, I must say.
  • Gambit1977 15 Mar 2013 11:24:45 10,396 posts
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    I have to agree with LB and NTG...
    My Wii U has only stayed in it's little place under the tv because of Netflix and the fact it only cost me 150
  • Kay 15 Mar 2013 11:25:43 19,528 posts
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    You know, I do think that the Wii U is turning out to be a spectacular missed opportunity from Nintendo, and I have no intention of owning one - a first for me when it comes to Nintendo consoles.

    But seriously, LB's (and to a slightly lesser extent, nickthegun's) posts are beyond insane now. When you start writing 400-500 word paragraphs on how much of a failure the console is, and feel the need to chip in with a little negative comment in the thread almost every single day, well, that's when it starts looking like a bit of an unhealthy obsession. They've probably posted more in this thread than any actual Wii U owner, which says it all really.

    Get over it.
  • macmurphy 15 Mar 2013 11:27:39 3,009 posts
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    I feel your pain mate, but it does seem like you come on this thread to be negative a lot, often without much constructive to say. I think you spammed the same 'The wiiu is saved' comment on the LCU review and somewhere else.

    To be fair I think the WiiU will end up like a less popular Wii. A Nintendo box of first party goodness and local multiplayer joy. If someone said I could keep the Wii or the 360, it's not even close - 360 was a much better consolse.

    At the same time I never regretted buying the Wii. I had a lot of fun on it, it made family gaming great and got my parents playing which was amazing to see. The first party games were great. I think if you want third party you will just have to get one of the other big two. But I still have a lot of love for my Wii, it's still the thing that gets played at parties. If you can live with that, then the WiiU should still be a great second console.

    And if it goes bad for Nintendo then they can always publish on other platforms. I just don't get why you're so negative all the time.
  • Cappy 15 Mar 2013 11:28:26 13,775 posts
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    After all the triumphalist hooting, and chest beating of the Wii and DS glory years when you curious little Nintendo devotees told us that core gamers were irrelevant and we should just 'fuck off' because nobody needs to make games for us because we don't count, surely you'll just let us have our moment of schadenfreude?

    Take it on the chin like men.
  • Deleted user 15 March 2013 11:30:40
    Not even excited at all about the Wii U.

    The hardcore are the only demographic, imo, that would potentially put up with the massively idiosyncratic piece of hardware that the wii u is, and it's just not powerful enough.

    2 Cents fwiw.
  • Kay 15 Mar 2013 11:31:03 19,528 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    Get over what?
    Over the fact that the Wii U is clearly not the console you wanted it to be. There are at least four other proper current-gen consoles out there, not including the PC, so you have plenty of other threads to post in.
  • quadfather 15 Mar 2013 11:31:12 30,892 posts
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    More posts with the word schadenfreude please
  • Gambit1977 15 Mar 2013 11:32:45 10,396 posts
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    I'm assuming everyone has Deckard on ignore, considering the grief you're all giving NTG.
  • javvyman 15 Mar 2013 11:32:53 723 posts
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    @nickthegun that's fair enough, I'm not just calling you out on this to be fair, there are others, we all know who they are.

    Thing is, I've spent most of the past 3 years gaming exclusively on the 360, because it caters more to my tastes. I had some excellent times on the Wii though, overall the console had a hell of a lot of Nintendo games released on it, quality ones too.
    The problem I had with with the Wii and Nintendo's approach to the console was that, although the output was great, the variation really wasn't. Too many platformers (albeit, great) and mini game collections. Not a single new, decent IP.

    This in my opinion, really needs to change and what really irks me. They take risks with hardware, fine, but they need to just bring out some new IP already.
  • quadfather 15 Mar 2013 11:34:44 30,892 posts
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    Trouble is, I think the problem here is "wanted it to be".

    I don't think that is the problem.

    I think the problem is that I wanted what I've *always* wanted in every console I've ever owned = Fun.

    That's it - that's all I want. That's all I'll ever want. And they fucked it up.
  • Deleted user 15 March 2013 11:35:00
    heh, wind up merchant
  • Deleted user 15 March 2013 11:35:02
    I still think the WiiU looks like an awesome console and a good idea. It has just been executed in the worst possible way by Nintendo and characteristically once again feels like a bottom of the barrel test of the market.
  • Gambit1977 15 Mar 2013 11:36:06 10,396 posts
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    You should know the 'sony/microsoft/nintendo' threads aren't safe!
  • Sandbox 15 Mar 2013 11:38:32 364 posts
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    Well as a "curious little Nintendo devotee", I have never told anyone here to "fuck off", nor will I ever.

    Really cannot work out what all the fuss is about.

    I doubt the U will sell like the Wii, but so what? If it forces N to shove an 90 AMD APU in a box with a Blu Ray in a couple of years then so be it.

    They have hardly bankrupted themselves developing this, and given the hardware in the PS4/Next Box, if they have to play catch up, that won't either.
  • Deleted user 15 March 2013 11:40:37
    Thing is aside from the lead up to christmas i can't see the next gen getting off to the greatest of starts either. Its going to be a slow and tough time for all invovled.
  • Gambit1977 15 Mar 2013 11:44:09 10,396 posts
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    I think one of the other 2 will sell like hot cakes, until MS reveal their hand, we don't know.

    Wii U had a HUGE amount of cancelled pre-orders as things changed from the initial announcement.
  • Psychotext 15 Mar 2013 11:47:35 62,884 posts
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    AdamAsunder wrote:
    I don't feel a sense of entitlement that they should appease me. I either buy something that suits me or I don't.
    This is the absolute truth. But of course, people also need to realise that it doesn't suit a hell of a lot of people.

    So far (and now I've actually played the thing) the Wii U seem all about local multiplayer and fitting in with families who don't have multiple TVs or who want to stay in the same room whilst they're all doing different things.

    I can see why this is attractive to some (especially those with kids), but I really, really don't fit that demographic. :)
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