Shmups! Page 9

  • Dirtbox 20 Apr 2021 00:37:38 92,530 posts
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    My 360 died so I ripped the disks and play them on Xenia. A million times more convenient than farting around with obsolete trash.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 20 Apr 2021 00:49:59 4,436 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    bone-on wrote:
    One of the best indie shmups you can buy and one of my faves. Battle Traverse.


    https://youtu.be/E9dq8lPy6S4
    I'd love to play it, but you can't buy it from anywhere. Stupid fucks in Japan think people still buy boxed games and have optical drives in their PCs. I nagged the rolling gunner dev into releasing the game on steam a few months back, but the message is never going to penetrate their obsolete business model idiocy unless you fax them or some bullshit.

    Edit: haha wtf https://www.ebay.com/itm/283933696915
    I still have a copy of the original PC version of Soldner X and it is very odd having a PC game that you just insert the disc and play like a console game (no install IIRC).

    I take it 360 patches aren't as available as PS3 ones are for emulators? Only patch disc I heard of is the Cave STG Collection one which has all of the DLC and is apparently DRM free so copiable, sadly only available in the very pricy compilation (of which I already owned 90% of when ot came out so skipped it). Not seen it floating arpund online either sadly... Doesn't cover DDPDOJ though obviously as 5PB ported that and Ketsui IIRC.
  • Dirtbox 20 Apr 2021 00:55:15 92,530 posts
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    You can get the patches, you just can't install them.
  • bone-on 20 Apr 2021 14:10:11 788 posts
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    @Dirtbox

    I downloaded battle Traverse via a web link think it was £25 via PayPal

    Will see if I can find the link later

    Edited by bone-on at 14:10:55 20-04-2021
  • bone-on 20 Apr 2021 17:42:49 788 posts
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    @Dirtbox

    https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ157191.html

    Legit site that's where I got it from, you might need to use the website translate to English option tho.
  • Dirtbox 20 Apr 2021 17:57:00 92,530 posts
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    It's okay, I found it.

    It's great, like they cherry picked the best parts of Progear, Akai and Deathsmiles. Good presentation and art too.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 18:38:50 20-04-2021
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 20 Apr 2021 21:57:27 4,436 posts
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    Bot familiar with it but I thought I would bite at that price (and I have used DLSite before so I know they are reliable). Never really had a proper look at what is available though.
  • Dirtbox 20 Apr 2021 22:46:00 92,530 posts
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    The Japanese doujin shooter scene is huge with several hundred games, but the problem is it's nigh on impenetrable, you really have to dig through a lot of crap to get to the good stuff.

    I went on a deep dive some years ago and found a few that were worth a shot, like Ring^-27 which Electric Underground just did a video about that's at the jankier Kenta Cho end of production, while others are very professionally produced and presented like Valhellio, but most were not and Touhou is a very prominent influence in a massive amount of them, which sucks imo. And a ton of weird shit like Ace of Seafood or awash with waifus, chibi witches, gundam suits and sword bullshit.

    Hellsinker is probably the hardest to get into, and play. I'm told it's a good game, but I have no idea what's happening.

    Here's a pretty good little game, it's free. http://www7b.biglobe.ne.jp/~orchard/main/stg_project2.html

    While I'm on the subject Cho Ren Sha 68k is definitely worth the bandwidth. https://web.archive.org/web/20190726062221/http://www2.tky.3web.ne.jp/~yosshin/my_works/download.html

    Edited by Dirtbox at 02:55:12 21-04-2021
  • Dirtbox 21 Apr 2021 08:00:34 92,530 posts
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    Oh man, REVOLVER360 RE:ACTOR is a game I seriously underestimated until I watched the top scoring replay ingame, it's been sat in my steam library for years and I never really bothered with it.

    Game is very cool indeed. You control your rotation and have a bullet clearing shot, so seemingly inescapable fans of bullets are a single line if you flip the view on it's side, then you can get some of the juiciest clears I've seen in a shmup. It's great.



    Ignore how they're playing it in this review, they suck.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 08:13:45 21-04-2021
  • bone-on 21 Apr 2021 14:05:51 788 posts
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    It does look interesting will give it a punt.

    Hope it's not another ikaruga as me and that game don't get on.
  • Dirtbox 21 Apr 2021 22:36:58 92,530 posts
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    No, it's much more like a shmup than Ikaruga. I got good at that, but looking back objectively, the polarity gimmick was shit and the game relied too much on memorisation.

    This is much more intuitive. The reviewer of this game is fucking gash at it though.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 22:38:10 21-04-2021
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 25 Apr 2021 21:14:41 4,436 posts
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    I see there have been a few console announcements at Shooting Game Daikanshasai 2021:

    Psikyo Shooting Collection for PS4/5/Xbone (possibly an all in one package rather than split into 2 or 3 titles like on Switch and an extra training mode) (undated) .

    A Cotton 2/Guardian Force/Cotton Boomerang compilation for PS4 and Switch in September.

    A Deathsmiles 1 and 2 (and all extra modes)for Switch, Xbone and PS4 in December.

    Strikers 2020, a sequel to the Strilers 1945 series for unnamed platforms and no release date.

    And Dodonpachi Blissful Death DXwhich sounds like a Daioujou port of a mobile game with a 500• price tag...

    Could be tempted by the Cotton and Deathsmiles releases if ported well...
  • Dirtbox 26 Apr 2021 23:49:48 92,530 posts
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    The DDP DOJ port is from a sodding flip phone game. I thought it was the iPad version, but nope, it's a 1:1 ratio box with a hamstrung version of the game. I can only assume its devs have one hell of a lenient contract with Cave, but it reeks of shovelware.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 27 Apr 2021 01:01:47 4,436 posts
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    Yeah, I saw that after I posted. I had assumed ios port not an old Japanese gaming phone pprt...
  • bone-on 27 Apr 2021 09:37:38 788 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    The DDP DOJ port is from a sodding flip phone game. I thought it was the iPad version, but nope, it's a 1:1 ratio box with a hamstrung version of the game. I can only assume its devs have one hell of a lenient contract with Cave, but it reeks of shovelware.
    As a company I will never understand Cave in some respects they deserve all they get. There's so much money to be made porting their games to Steam, PS4/5 and switch but they obv can't be arsed.
  • Dirtbox 27 Apr 2021 09:40:45 92,530 posts
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    I think they like being able to resell the same games over and over for different console platforms that are inevitably doomed to obsolescence.
  • uiruki 27 Apr 2021 10:25:40 5,926 posts
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    The flip phone thing is a different series - they've also got a version of Sorcerian even though there aren't any modern ports of that either.
  • Dirtbox 28 Apr 2021 01:24:01 92,530 posts
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    It's the same series, Blissful Death is the literal translation of Dou Ou Jou. And the game is literally Dou Ou Jou, just with a different aspect ratio, 30 frames, and some of the larger popcorn removed.

    It's like calling DonPachi Episode 4 or DoDonPachi III a different series.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 04:16:11 28-04-2021
  • uiruki 28 Apr 2021 08:00:05 5,926 posts
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    I mean it's a different series of ports - the G-Mode Archives rather than something like M2's ShotTriggers or Hamster Arcade Archives where they're bringing the original versions. They're all flip phone ports which is why they're porting all sorts of stuff. There's a version of Zanac on there too, and the version of Tetris I used to play on the phone while I was in Japan.

    Much easier for everyone involved to give permission to G-Mode to let them use their old flip phone port rather than get something like Saidaioujou working on a system that someone can buy.

    It's a specific type of nostalgia they're selling too - I know I have plenty of good versions of Tetris but I'd be tempted to pay 500 yen to try the one I used to play again. Or if they were to port across the version of Ys The Oath of Felghana that I played through with the hilariously Ngage-style low quality software rendered 3D for 500 yen I'd be likely to give that a go, rather than shell out for a faithful port on Switch, since I already own the definitive PC version.

    Edited by uiruki at 08:14:47 28-04-2021
  • Dirtbox 28 Apr 2021 08:40:23 92,530 posts
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    Oh I get you. It's not exactly doing anyone or the game any good though, it's just a soulless licensed property cash in.

    I'd love nothing more than for M2 to get stuck into it and HD the game like DFK was for Resurrection. I'm pretty cold on SDOJ though, it's not up to the standard of any of the other DDPs. I have the 360 version, which I suppose is as close as anyone will ever get to it at this point.

    Still holding out hope for the mame rom though, apparently the mame devs have the only dump of it and will release it in a romset once they're satisfied the game is no longer commercially viable for Cave.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 08:45:03 28-04-2021
  • uiruki 28 Apr 2021 08:55:56 5,926 posts
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    Thatíll be either very soon or a long way off due to the Exa-Arcadia version. Iíd be happy enough with a digital version that worked on modern Xboxes as Iíve barely played it.
  • bone-on 28 Apr 2021 10:20:45 788 posts
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    I find DDP SDOJ unplayable the screen is covered by 90% of your shot and it's just impossible to see anything. It's a shame as you can't even appreciate the sprite work either.
  • Dirtbox 28 Apr 2021 11:14:54 92,530 posts
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    I wouldn't call it unplayable, I can see the bullets fine as they're overlayed on top of everything, it just takes some adjustment. I had the same problem as you with Crimson Clover, with it's avalanche of stars but I got used to it. I think it's the waifu thing and the graphical style I wasn't keen on. The game is otherwise essentially DOJ with none of the slowdown and harder bosses.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 28 Apr 2021 12:39:13 4,436 posts
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    I have a feeling I never actually unwrapped my SDOJ after buying it on the way home from Korea back in 2014... I don't recall actually playing it nor what is in the huge CE box...
  • uiruki 28 Apr 2021 12:45:46 5,926 posts
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    It's going for an awful lot online now so it might be worth checking!
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 28 Apr 2021 14:15:12 4,436 posts
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    I had seen the CE had been rising but even the standard is looking pricy from the quickest Google at asking prices... Never quite trusted selling pricy stuff on ebay though...
  • Dirtbox 29 Apr 2021 20:34:35 92,530 posts
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    https://store.steampowered.com/sale/goldenweek?tab=1

    Tons of shmups in the Japan game sale on Steam for the next week.

    Picked up Astebreed, Steel Vampire and Bullet Soul Infinite Burst for a pittance.
  • bone-on 29 Apr 2021 20:38:03 788 posts
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    @Dirtbox

    Steel vampire any good?
  • CrispyXUKTurbo 29 Apr 2021 21:00:08 3,148 posts
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    Ikaruga free on Israel MS store https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ikaruga-xbox-360-xbox-onexs-free-at-microsoft-israel-3712760
  • Dirtbox 29 Apr 2021 22:59:27 92,530 posts
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    bone-on wrote:
    @Dirtbox

    Steel vampire any good?
    Not really. It's interesting for sure, but I'd have to play it more to get the dangle of it. It's very busy and everything is very big, it feels like you're playing zoomed into a regular 4:3 top down shooter. It'll take me a little adjustment.
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