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Your-Mother 13 Jun 2020 19:07:44 8,172 posts
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1113000/Persona_4_Golden/

Rogueywon 13 Jun 2020 19:14:03 12,387 posts
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14 gigs. Wonder what they've been up to?

Dave_McCoy 13 Jun 2020 19:36:09 3,410 posts
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This is a great news. Those who never played before, enjoy! Was hoping for P3 too but still happy with this.

Rogueywon 13 Jun 2020 19:37:51 12,387 posts
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And the porting's ok. They've not done anything big with it and the assets are showing their age (particularly if you've played P5), but there's no 30fps cap, no resolution stupidity and none of the other shit often associated with JRPG ports. Plus there's an option for Japanese voices.

richarddavies 13 Jun 2020 19:52:28 8,312 posts
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Dont have a gaming pc, but I'm made up for anyone that has. Persona 4 should be in everyone's gaming collection. You're in for a treat.

THFourteen 13 Jun 2020 19:53:09 54,987 posts
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With emulation would it look nicer?

Your-Mother 13 Jun 2020 19:56:09 8,172 posts
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Vita emulation is still in its infancy so don’t think it’s even playable anyway. You could emulate the ps2 original but it’s an objectively worse game than Golden.

Ror 13 Jun 2020 19:56:44 20,336 posts
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Surprisingly affordable, given it's Atlus!

dmj 13 Jun 2020 20:01:01 1,081 posts
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I was expecting it to be around £30.

Your-Mother 13 Jun 2020 20:04:13 8,172 posts
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Main downside to the PC release is they didn’t add a save anywhere. Didn’t matter on the vita as you could go into standby mode, making it perfect to bash out a few minutes of a dungeon or something on a lunch break.

Rogueywon 13 Jun 2020 20:09:00 12,387 posts
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Beyond the graphics config options and a small amount of visual tidying, this seems to be an absolutely straight port of the Vita version.

Though I can't remember if the Vita version had Japanese voices.

Your-Mother 13 Jun 2020 20:11:05 8,172 posts
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It didn’t.

Rogueywon 13 Jun 2020 20:17:14 12,387 posts
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@Your-Mother Yeah, figures. I thought I recognised the sound of some of the Japanese voices, but that was probably from the anime adaptation.

One_Vurfed_Gwrx 14 Jun 2020 01:39:32 4,467 posts
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I got used to the P4 cast's Japanese voices on the Arena games (did Dancing All Night have a Japanese voice option too? I forget...) . Persona Q2 was Japanese voices only. This is on the wishlist for now but I haven't even installed P5 Royal yet so no hurry...

Rogueywon 14 Jun 2020 08:52:01 12,387 posts
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Played the first two hours of this last night. It's lovely to have it on Steam, but revisiting it does bring out just how much of an advance on it Persona 5 was. P4G has lots of great stuff going on, but it doesn't have the intensity or style of its sequel. Plus P5's palaces really were a big leap forward for the series in terms of dungeon design.

Still, very, very glad to have this on a modern platform. Should help pass a good number of hours as lockdown grinds on. Would be lovely if P3:FES and even (pleasepleaseplease) P5R could also make their way to Steam.

Also, I suspect my last reason for holding onto my old Vita just evaporated.

Rogueywon 25 Jun 2020 22:36:40 12,387 posts
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Just finished the second Palace... erm... dungeon. It's interesting playing this so soon after P5R.

It's a much less advanced game in so many respects. The combat system feels less polished (I really, really miss baton passes). The Shuffle Time system is a lot more forgiving than Shadow Negotiation, but also makes acquring a new Persona feel like less of an event. The social link storylines are shallow and basic compared to P5's confidants. While it's a stylish game, it doesn't have the sheer polish that every aspect of P5 positively oozed. The overall feel is a bit inconsistent, with the initial murder mystery rapidly turning into Scooby-Gang antics, rather than P5's consistent, burning rage. And the dungeons are pathetic compared to P5's Palaces (hell, even Mementos has a few edges on them).

But it's still a classic. I hadn't realised quite how much I'd missed some of the characters. The town is still beautifully depicted. It all still clicks together incredibly well.

In my memory, P4 is the weakest link in the trilogy of "modern" Persona games, without the brooding dread of P3 or the sheer anger of P5. But I really do hope they put P3 on Steam soon (and P5!), so I can see if that still stands up. And even the weakest link in that trilogy is still incredibly strong.

Deleted user 26 June 2020 11:10:58

While it was tempting for a few seconds to just buy it on Steam when I saw it there, I rather keep it for playing it on the Vita to be honest because it fits that platform much better. And still gives me a reason to actually switch it on.

Vortex808 26 Jun 2020 11:14:23 15,593 posts
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Yes, it was perfect on the Vita, pick up and play made it so easy. P4G was one of my favourite Vita games, and Persona5 on the PS4 never quite stuck as much for me for some reason. I think i just associated playing it on vita too much perhaps.

It was also too much of a time sink for a point when I didn't quite have enough time for it too. I kind of regret not finishing it (P5).

Edited by Vortex808 at 11:46:11 26-06-2020

Deleted user 26 June 2020 11:19:20

Yeah, and as was mentioned the fact you can just put your Vita to sleep made it much more manageable as well. I think I played through it twice and must've logged over 100 hours.

Edit: you should definitely finish it if you can - I can't remember another game where I 'bonded' with the characters so much and genuinely 'missed' them after I completed it (the second playthrough was needed for me to see the true ending, which is well worth it).

Edited by KnuttinAtoll at 11:20:29 26-06-2020

Vortex808 26 Jun 2020 11:51:09 15,593 posts
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I think that was part of the reason I didn't finish P5, I just didn't bond with the characters as much as in P4G which I got all the way through, I don't know why.

I did enjoy it, but just didn't really have the time for endless trawls round the subway/mementos to grind it as much as required.

dfunked09 26 Jun 2020 13:48:35 2,406 posts
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I'm kind of the opposite in Vita preference. Think I finished the second palace/dungeon, but didn't go much further than that as I wasn't commuting as much at the time and just didn't fancy playing on a smaller screen at home. I purchased a Vita TV with the plan of completing it on that, but never actually picked it up again.

P5 on the other hand completely absorbed me until the end, and I'm a couple of dungeons further in on my PC playthrough of P4G now.

PC difficulty options definitely help too, as I think I'd hit a bit of a brick wall on the Vita but didn't want to start over.

Edited by dfunked09 at 13:49:43 26-06-2020

Rogueywon 26 Jun 2020 17:01:56 12,387 posts
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I liked the P5 cast more than the P4 one. P4's characters are fine - as I said, I missed them - but they generally conform to fairly well known anime tropes. P5's have more sharp edges and more uncomfortable themes swirling around in their background stories. Plus every Persona Awakening moment in P5 is basically a Crowning Moment of Awesome, while P4's are a bit more hit and miss.

Definitely agree the PC version of P4G needs some sort of suspend option added. Although it's not quite as bad as I feared - I did remember last night that if you use a Goho-M, you can resume the dungeon from floor you left at (allowing you to go save before returning).

Nazo 26 Jun 2020 21:39:48 1,951 posts
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P4G’s characters have their own problems and anxieties, they just aren’t defined by them to the extent that P5’s are. Each of P5’s cast are basically just an example of abuse with a person layered on top, which I think makes them less interesting.

I’m kinda fascinated by your seeming obsession with P5 given your declared political affiliations. I think a lot of the themes are very relevant to the UK situation and Tory philosophy in general. Could it be there’s a lefty SJW Roguey Persona struggling to get out?

Rogueywon 26 Jun 2020 21:54:01 12,387 posts
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@Nazo Really? That's where you're going with it?

One of the things that fascinates me with P5 is that it's a political game that doesn't pick sides between right or left. It's also, very squarely (and by its own director's admission) a game about Japan for a Japanese audience. Abuse of power is the over-riding theme of the game, but that's not a left/right issue.

Nazo 26 Jun 2020 22:36:52 1,951 posts
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The lefty thing was just a cheeky dig, most of the issues aren’t really left / right apart from maybe the corporate abuse, but the abuse of power issues is very relevant in our current climate.

Still, you’ve answered my question, you don’t see the parallels, fair enough.

Rogueywon 26 Jun 2020 22:50:57 12,387 posts
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@Nazo P5 has some parallels to the current situation in the West, sure, but I don't see them as strictly left/right issues. Shido, the big political bad, is an empty vessel promising the world and parroting slogans. Echos of Boris? Of course. Echos of Corbyn? Absolutely. The game's careful never to put actual policies in his mouth - he's just a demagogue.

The corporate abuse thing is an interesting one and I did a post on it (and the other villains) over in the P5 thread. But in short, Okamura Foods is very directly based on Watami Foodservice Co, a real company which has become the poster-child of the Japanese "black companies" issue. Some elements of "black companies" are specifically Japanese, some aren't. In the Western gaming world, EA, Rockstar and Naughty Dog may well all classify as "black companies" (albeit less extreme than their Japanese equivalents). But it's not a left/right issue, particular. Hell, Naughty Dog are currently taking a lot of (unjustified imo) flak from the alt- parts of the right.

Back on topic, I'm trying for a 100% Social Link run in P4G, having never managed it before. It throws a lot of social links at you quickly compared to P5, but has fewer nights where you are confined to your room, which may help.

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