The Stand film adaption(s) Page 3

  • cov 18 Dec 2020 20:05:24 2,419 posts
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    Castle Rock was straight up good - not a direct adaptation but as king as you can get
  • dfunked09 18 Dec 2020 20:30:37 1,451 posts
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    Second season (or whatever the most recent one was) of castle rock was a big of a drop in quality. Definitely still well worth a watch though.
    Mr Mercedes was good for the first season and then, eh... You probably get the picture.

    I'm just gutted we'll never see the wizard and glass adaptation. That could've been such a stellar single season if handled properly. The film was pants though, so that put an end to that...

    Edited by dfunked09 at 20:31:12 18-12-2020
  • Trowel 18 Dec 2020 23:36:44 24,077 posts
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    I seem to remember The Golden Years was a fun series. I imagine it's dated terribly though.
  • Trowel 18 Dec 2020 23:45:53 24,077 posts
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    dfunked09 wrote:
    I'm just gutted we'll never see the wizard and glass adaptation. That could've been such a stellar single season if handled properly. The film was pants though, so that put an end to that...
    Wizard and Glass is my second favourite thing King has written (once you get past the Blaine Christmas cracker intro...). However the nature of the Dark Tower series has always seemed to me to be crying out for an animated serial adaptation.

    My favourite thing by King is the aforementioned Langoliers, and I will never watch the series for fear of ruining the read; the Willem Dafoe audio book came close to doing that already - who told Willem he could do an impression of a young girl FFS.
  • Scimarad 19 Dec 2020 04:58:39 9,926 posts
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    The unaired Amazon pilot sounded really good.
  • Mola_Ram 19 Dec 2020 04:58:39 25,155 posts
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    Oh yeah, The Outsider. I guess I'd forgotten that (and Mr Mercedes) was a Stephen King thing, because I still associate him with stuff that isn't just police procedural. They were good, though.

    Anyway, I'm considering stealing the first episode of this, at least partly because I don't really have anything else to watch right now.
  • Mola_Ram 21 Dec 2020 14:01:33 25,155 posts
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    I caved, watched the first episode.

    Things I liked:

    JK Simmons

    Good performances from the others, particularly the guy who plays Harold


    Things I (so far) liked less... I guess some of it is book wanker stuff, but I don't really know how to talk about the show without comparing to the book. I'll try not to spoil any plot developments. Anyway:

    I don't know about the whole flashback structure. It feels like it robs a bit of character development if you know where people ultimately end up.

    I like the guy playing Harold, but it looks like they're trying a lot harder to make him a straight-up villain than the book did. You're not supposed to like the guy, but imo there's quite a bit more to him than "angry incel". He's way more interesting a character than Frannie or Stu.

    Also, Flagg basically being behind the plague outbreak feels like a pretty huge change.


    Overall, it was a decent watch. I'll keep going.

    Edited by Mola_Ram at 14:17:53 21-12-2020
  • Tomo 21 Dec 2020 17:20:41 18,829 posts
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    How is the acting? I really struggle with TV series when it's wooden as fuck and they've basically done 1 take for every scene. Get those lines delivered baby.
  • Mola_Ram 21 Dec 2020 21:55:58 25,155 posts
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    The acting is fine (though there's a lot more characters to introduce, so I can't tell for sure). Stu Redman is basically the part that James Marsden was born to play, the Harold actor is really good too. I'm looking forward to seeing more of Abigail and Flagg.
  • nickthegun 21 Dec 2020 22:09:21 84,512 posts
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    Iíve read a couple of reviews that give this a real roasting, particularly the casting and some of the narrative changes.
  • Decks 21 Dec 2020 22:13:59 28,417 posts
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    I signed up for StarzPlay for it (99p a month for 3 months at the minute) as I've wanting to watch Castle Rock for a while. Enjoyed the first episode of it. It says The Stand is on beginning of Jan I think.
  • TechnoHippy 22 Dec 2020 15:25:29 18,357 posts
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    Excellent - I have Starz - there's a few good shows on there. I'm enjoying Godfather of Harlem at the moment.
  • TechnoHippy 3 Jan 2021 18:40:58 18,357 posts
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    Annoyingly only the first episode is out today, it's ok - I'll stick with it and see how it develops.

    Considering how crap I'm feeling, it might not have been the best subject matter to watch.
  • Decks 3 Jan 2021 18:44:15 28,417 posts
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    If anyone subscribed to Starz for this I'm a few episodes into Mr Mercedes on there and would recommend it.
  • TechnoHippy 3 Jan 2021 18:46:48 18,357 posts
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    Yeah the first season of Mr Mercedes is great - it gets a little weaker in the subsequent seasons, but still well worth a watch.
  • theone1 3 Jan 2021 20:06:19 125 posts
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    Still to watch the 3rd episode but not been impressed so far.

    Going with flashbacks rather than simply telling the story in order isn't working.
  • Mola_Ram 5 Jan 2021 02:38:04 25,155 posts
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    So far (after episode 2) it's feeling very rushed. It's nice that they made Rita a character, but everything is over so quickly you wonder why they even bothered. She doesn't do anything, doesn't inform Larry's growth as a character, she's just... there. And then not there.

    I don't think that they can do all of this in 9 episodes, at least not effectively. The story is gigantic, you'd need at least 12 to flesh everything out. Or another season after they all get to Boulder/Vegas.
  • Nanocrystal 5 Jan 2021 03:42:37 2,309 posts
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    Agree that it feels rushed and that the flashback structure was a mistake. Still, I'm enjoying revisiting these characters. Laws yes!
  • Tomo 5 Jan 2021 04:01:42 18,829 posts
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    Most of the comments I've read from folks about it sound like they are reaching for the positives, which gives me the impression it's really quite mediocre :/
  • Mola_Ram 5 Jan 2021 05:20:53 25,155 posts
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    The performances are pretty good, for the most part. The issues are more to do with the structure and writing.
  • TechnoHippy 10 Jan 2021 12:25:20 18,357 posts
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    Second episode up on Starz in the UK - as others have mentioned there's too much jumping around, especially with flashbacks. But it's still doing enough to keep me interested, mostly because I know where it should be heading and hoping that as it progresses the flashbacks will thin out.
  • Apollo 11 Jan 2021 11:46:41 549 posts
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    Does anyone get the feeling that Harold IS Stephen King? Teague even looks like him FFS.
  • Mola_Ram 11 Jan 2021 11:52:48 25,155 posts
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    I think in an interview King basically confirmed that some aspects of Harold (the ones about him being an always-rejected writer, basically) were based on his own experience. Probably some of Larry's addiction stuff too.

    It makes sense, because (in the book at least) Harold and Larry are probably the best-realised characters. King had nfi what to do with Frannie or Stu.

    Edited by Mola_Ram at 12:01:11 11-01-2021
  • oldskooldeano 13 Jan 2021 22:53:47 3,285 posts
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    Iím not really a Stephen king fan but I read the Stand when I was a teenager and it really stuck with me. The post apocalyptic freedom of it. So I watched the older tv adaptation yonks ago just because it existed, and now Iíve watched two episodes of this.
    Iíve enjoyed it. The flashbacks make sense as itís a way to streamline the plot, to condense those hundreds of pages into less screen time. If you know the story, then it works and Iím guessing many viewers will know it. Ok itís already changed some minor details but so far so good. I burned through the two episodes and felt cheated there were no more. Bring on Sunday I guess!
  • Nanocrystal 14 Jan 2021 09:56:24 2,309 posts
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    Gotta admit, a certain scene in episode 4 hit me right in the feels just like it did in the 90s version.
  • oldskooldeano 14 Jan 2021 11:25:26 3,285 posts
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    I assume youíre in the US or arrr matey to see 4 episodes? The uk is two weeks behind?
  • Nanocrystal 14 Jan 2021 11:29:05 2,309 posts
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  • Nanocrystal 14 Jan 2021 11:29:19 2,309 posts
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    I can neither confirm nor deny how I saw it, me hearty.
  • oldskooldeano 14 Jan 2021 11:30:36 3,285 posts
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    Nanocrystal wrote:
    I can neither confirm nor deny how I saw it, me hearty.
    We do what we must. :)
  • dfunked09 17 Jan 2021 21:06:21 1,451 posts
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    The flashbacks pretty much stop in the fifth episode for anybody wondering (although I personally enjoyed most of them TBH, especially Larry's episode)

    It's been pretty solid so far. MOON spells enjoying it.
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