Microsoft Surface Page 25

  • Dirtbox 28 Oct 2016 15:24:09 91,187 posts
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  • Goban 28 Oct 2016 16:30:44 9,982 posts
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    MS seem to be bundling one's with all their Surface sales. Strikes me as an odd tactic.
  • Dirtbox 28 Oct 2016 16:31:53 91,187 posts
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  • Goban 28 Oct 2016 16:45:36 9,982 posts
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    Seems to be all surfaces not just pro 4s. Are One S's unshiftable these days?
  • THFourteen 28 Oct 2016 16:51:46 52,833 posts
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    They are trying to play the apple game and get you hooked on their appstore.

    At least they are giving away free stuff.
  • Dirtbox 28 Oct 2016 16:58:15 91,187 posts
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  • Goban 28 Oct 2016 17:09:13 9,982 posts
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    I thought they were selling reasonably well these days, not that i care.
  • Dirtbox 28 Oct 2016 17:14:07 91,187 posts
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  • Khanivor 3 Nov 2016 20:23:57 44,105 posts
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    Housemate is looking to get a tablet that can run Quickbooks. Wondering if anyone has any recommendations as to what to look for in getting a Surface, like model that kind of stuff. Should I recommend a 4 or go for a 3?

    Edited by Khanivor at 20:25:03 03-11-2016
  • HarryB 3 Nov 2016 20:27:15 7,441 posts
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    Depends on their budget but the sweetspot is normally the i5 model. Keyboard for the 4 is a lot nicer but can be fitted to the 3 or 4.
  • Khanivor 3 Nov 2016 21:38:45 44,105 posts
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    If I lived in the UK I would be making him get that, fo shizzle.

    Sadly, I'm in the US. And there don't appear to be any sweet deals on the go. Nothing like that, sadly :(

    Good to know about the keyboard, cheers.

    Edited by Khanivor at 21:39:46 03-11-2016
  • TheBlackDog 15 Nov 2016 12:58:33 1,069 posts
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    I need to buy a laptop for my wife for her to use web based Sage accounting and probably Excel, etc. The last time she used a "pc" was an old Samsung 10" netbook just for surfing and she is just used to a 9" tablet for Internet use.

    My question is, will a 12" Surface be enough screen to actually use when she goes back to work as a self employed accountant? I don't really want her relying on my gaming PC if the Surface screen size isn't going to cut it for productivity work (15-20 hours per week). The alternative I'm looking at is the conventional 14 - 15.6 inch laptop.

    Anyone using one for work without the screen size being a serious constraint.
  • THFourteen 15 Nov 2016 13:05:31 52,833 posts
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    My wife is an accountant and they give out these dinky laptops at her firm, probably 13.3". At work they have docking stations with proper monitors. She finds it annoying to WFH without the monitor, but she can still get work done.

    I'd suggest maybe buying a cheapo 24" monitor that she can put on the dining / kitchen table when she needs to? Then she's got flexibility. You could get one for like 80 i reckon, drop in the bucket if you are buying a surface ;-)
  • Deleted user 15 November 2016 13:07:54
    @TheBlackDog honestly, fuck looking at numbers with a screen that is less than 20 inchs. My home & work screen are both 25inch+
  • TheBlackDog 15 Nov 2016 13:24:18 1,069 posts
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    You're right Graxlar, I just walked past my desk and wondered what I was thinking. I need triple screens for my work and personally I'd find it hard to do proper work on a dinky screen now.

    BUT thfourteen has pointed out something obvious that I didn't consider. Maybe I can find a switch adaptor thing so she can easily plug into one of my screens without having to move shit around.
  • Shivoa 15 Nov 2016 15:06:29 6,314 posts
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    Definitely best to have a large screen for some thing. The miniDP output can be converted to anything with a cheap (active) adaptor box [mine has absolutely no branding on (Amazon said VicTsing) but was 10 and converts from miniDP 1.2 to VGA, DVI, or HDMI 4K - only one at a time]. You can spend a lot of money on the official Surface Dock to get access to several video out ports.

    The screen is great for doing some stuff but you really need good vision to make the most out of the pixel count (and not have to scale up everything). 20:12 or better recommended. It also sometimes just feels nicer to have something that fills far more of your vision and the only way you can do that with a Pro 4 is with a floating monitor arm and focusing uncomfortable close to your face (ie don't even bother trying this).

    You will also want a real keyboard for much work (don't buy a 100 cover, buy a 10 keyboard) and a mouse is essential (once you move away from just using the screen that takes both mouse and pen input).

    Edited by Shivoa at 15:09:08 15-11-2016
  • Dirtbox 15 Nov 2016 15:20:15 91,187 posts
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  • Shivoa 15 Nov 2016 15:32:37 6,314 posts
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    Ye, the problem with the stylus and there incredibly high res screens is the amount of the typical Windows UI which requires near-pixel accuracy. When rolling a mouse over a window edge then you've got something like 5 pixels where the cursor changes to a drag option but that's pretty different from blindly pushing the cursor towards that edge an aiming to grab it to pull. Oh, and users may not realise that those 5 pixels they need to grab are the pixel of the border and 4 pixels outside the edge of the window. Stylus to hear the edge of the window will not act how people who use large-touch-area UIs will be used to.

    I love the stylus for lots of stuff (from general use in apps that distinguish between fingers for scrolling and stylus for area dragging to art packages) but the base UI and any apps that inherit standard behaviours are often a bit of a faff due to the pixel density.
  • Dirtbox 15 Nov 2016 15:42:53 91,187 posts
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  • Shivoa 15 Nov 2016 15:49:46 6,314 posts
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    I still get the occasional issues with in on Win10 but I'm also running a Mint MATE VM for lots of stuff and that is even more fiddly for working without a mouse hooked up. Should probably just buy a bluetooth mouse at some point but it feels like it should work fine with finger + stylus.
  • secombe 22 Dec 2016 13:18:07 1,453 posts
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    Goban wrote:
    MS seem to be bundling one's with all their Surface sales. Strikes me as an odd tactic.
    They've recently announced record UK sales, coupled with large numbers trading in MacBooks to switch, so I guess they've done alright out of it.

    I sold my 2014 MacBook Pro this week, completely disillusioned with where Apple are going with the laptop line.

    Surface Pro 4 i7 and XBox One S have just been delivered by UPS ready for me to set up later this evening :)
  • GoatApocalypse 4 Sep 2017 07:09:50 5,831 posts
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    I'm about to start an MBA and I've decided that the new Pro i5 will be my new laptop.

    Having taken the hit on the Surface, I'll have to wait until next month for the keyboard / pen / mouse combo I think but it seems perfect for reading, writing and typing on. I can't imagine that between Chrome, Word and One Note that I'll experience too much throttling.
  • Vice.Destroyer 10 Feb 2018 13:58:29 7,264 posts
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    I have a new job and will be getting a Surface Pro for work. I am very excited!
  • GoatApocalypse 10 Feb 2018 13:59:36 5,831 posts
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    I love mine.
  • Vice.Destroyer 10 Feb 2018 14:12:51 7,264 posts
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    I am glad to hear it! I have been looking quite enviously at some of my other pals who have got generous IT departments. I can finally show off as well. (Whilst doing work which I could conceivably do on a Dell from 2010. Ot's overkill, but shhhhhh)
  • AaronTurner 10 Feb 2018 14:37:34 11,127 posts
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    I got an Acer switch 5 for about 500 euros less than the equivalent surface pro, seems great so far.
  • Lukus 10 Feb 2018 14:53:03 22,024 posts
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    Ahhh gypo!

    *goes back to school*
  • beastmaster 23 Jun 2018 15:15:24 19,406 posts
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    Getting the laptop. Big question is...Burgundy or Colbat Blue?
  • Technoishmatt 23 Jun 2018 15:31:56 3,517 posts
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    cobalt.
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