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But is anyone in this thread really saying that, LB? It doesn't have to be "world changing" to be "fucking awesome". They've made great strides in the immersion and they've made great strides with the head tracking (although in both cases I'm taking other people's word for that) and Carmack has promised support in future id games. If Bethesda are unifying tech, that could very well mean that all of the games from that stable benefit. If someone makes an intercept driver it'll work, albeit in a clunky fashion, with almost anything. But I'm happy just to get one to play the Doom 3 BFG edition in the first instance - just for a bit of wish fulfillment. Anything beyond that is a bonus. I can understand people casting a wary eye of any statement of intended world domination, but I'm genuinely very very surprised that more people aren't running around the thread giggling with excitement at the prospect of getting their hands on this thing. |
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Phattso 27,426 posts
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nickthegun 87,711 posts
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Registered 16 years agoPhattso wrote:
I think the fact that kickstarter has proved to be a massive waste of time and money has tempered peoples enthusiasm somewhat.
..but I'm genuinely very very surprised that more people aren't running around the thread giggling with excitement at the prospect of getting their hands on this thing. -
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Registered 17 years agoPersonally, I think you're overestimating how many people are that bothered about a VR headset in the first place. Be good to have a go on one for a bit, but I wouldn't buy one even if it was in shops today. -
Phattso 27,426 posts
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Registered 17 years agoYeah, entirely possible. Until the Carmack E3 demo I hadn't really given the field much thought in about a decade, but it reignited all that giddy excitement I had back in the day at the promise of a decent VR headset experience.
So yeah, just me. Definitely not The Next Big Thing, but when you have people like Carmack bothering to spend time working on it (like or hate the recent id output) it generally means there's something there and it's not all guff and bluster.
I can't see it being "the next Wii" or anything ridiculous like that, but I'm hopeful at the kind of experiences we might get for something like this. Less guns, more atmosphere. And not breaking the bank. -
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Registered 17 years agoBut you should all totally read between the lines there and understand that I think you all have no souls, etc. etc. -
I personally think it's more interesting from an-in-one console perspective than anything else. A console that doesn't need a telly (but isn't just a handheld) is an exciting prospect I think. -
mal 29,326 posts
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Phattso 27,426 posts
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Registered 17 years agokalel wrote:
But that's almost certainly something for the far future. Getting the necessary computational and rendering power into that form factor without melting someones head and requiring hefty batteries is no mean feat.
I personally think it's more interesting from an-in-one console perspective than anything else. A console that doesn't need a telly (but isn't just a handheld) is an exciting prospect I think. -
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Registered 19 years agoLeoliansBro wrote:
I'm not sure I've said that anywhere LB. As Phattso states, if my updates are frequent and enthusiastic, it's because I'm checking things frequently and I'm enthusiastic.
Bob, I do think a note of caution might be wiser than the assumption that this will go mainstream based on the fact that Valve didn't say they were developing anything for it and a presumption that manufacturing levels can be increased if demanded.
It is interesting. It isn't a slam dunk revolution or a world changing bit of tech.
Have you watched any of the videos / read any of the threads I've linked to though? Whilst I am (like anyone) prone to getting overexcited about such things, I've also got a pretty good history in objectively gauging the potential of display advances. And, reading between the lines and hearing the overwhelmingly enthusiastic critiques of this first prototype and it's potential from industry leading figures (remember Valve, EPIC, Unity, iD and by turns Bethesday), I can't help but feel that this thing is going to be significant. And whilst 'world changer' is a deliberately disingenuous and misleading statement to apply to my enthusiasm, if I had to call it, I would actually go as far as saying this was (quite literally) a game-changer.
I'm openly optimistic then, but privately I'm expecting the next big thing from this. But, as Phattso also says, if the worst case scenario is that we get 12 months of cool games and demos to try with a (very cheap) HMD to boot, I'll be on cloud nine regardless.
It won't take long for me to be proved wrong though, so you've all got that to look forward to at least.
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Phattso wrote:
I mean more in terms of not needing a TV than a literal all in one.
kalel wrote:
But that's almost certainly something for the far future. Getting the necessary computational and rendering power into that form factor without melting someones head and requiring hefty batteries is no mean feat.
I personally think it's more interesting from an-in-one console perspective than anything else. A console that doesn't need a telly (but isn't just a handheld) is an exciting prospect I think.
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silentbob 29,527 posts
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Registered 19 years agoNot even close to being smart enough. And no, I care not a jot that both Carmack and Luckey have said this first phase isn't for non developers (even stating that it's potentially unhelpful to do so), I must have one. -
mal 29,326 posts
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Registered 20 years agosilentbob wrote:
Interesting - it could mark the return of the games arcade. Instead of arcades being special because they're the only place that can afford the all that hardware in one place, VR arcades would be special because they've built the game hardware out of 2x4 and ply.
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@silentbob Not to piss on your chips or owt, but if you're not a developer how do you intend to assemble the Rift when it finally arrives?
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Phattso 27,426 posts
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Registered 17 years agoThe $300 bundle comes pre-assembled, MrTom, so it's not an issue.
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Registered 19 years agoMrTomFTW wrote:
Yer, cos assembling a kit it directly comparable to being a whizz with programming 3D worlds.
@silentbob Not to piss on your chips or owt, but if you're not a developer how do you intend to assemble the Rift when it finally arrives?
You make yourself sound "not smart enough" to put to together? So are you just going to make happy cooing noises at the $300 worth of individual parts for forever more?
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Phattso 27,426 posts
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Registered 17 years agoDirtbox wrote:
Even if that were true, regarding the drivers, it'd be half the fun. But it's not, I suspect.
Not only that, but it's not going to be able to play anything aside from a version of doom 3, and you'r probably going to have to compile your own drivers or something to that effect.
But fuck me - not only do you guys not care about this, but you're actively going out of your way to spoil it for the (chosen) few who are. It's a very strange reaction.
Wait, let me check something...
*rustle* *rustle* *rustle*
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silentbob 29,527 posts
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Registered 19 years agoDirtbox wrote:
This isn't the case at all, but even if it were I could handle that. Plus, even if I couldn't, I know 20 developers that could.
Not only that, but it's not going to be able to play anything aside from a version of doom 3, and you'r probably going to have to compile your own drivers or something to that effect.
Although your assertions on the initial software support side are probably bang on, this community of enthusiasts will help the scene blossom over the next few months, along with obvious industry support and enthusiasm for the tech already in place.
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I just find it hard to get over the "it makes you look like a twat" factor. Not a big deal, not a big mental hurdle for those of you who already looks like a twat. But when you're a naturally awesome looking fella like me it's difficult. -
silentbob wrote:
Well fair enough. I thought you had got one of the self assembly kits. Or I had hoped because that would have been fucking funny
MrTomFTW wrote:
Yer, cos assembling a kit it directly comparable to being a whizz with programming 3D worlds.
@silentbob Not to piss on your chips or owt, but if you're not a developer how do you intend to assemble the Rift when it finally arrives?
You make yourself sound "not smart enough" to put to together? So are you just going to make happy cooing noises at the $300 worth of individual parts for forever more?
Anyway, they'd sold out of the self assembly kits by the time I'd got my order in.
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