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nickthegun 27 Nov 2012 14:18:15 73,331 posts
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So, just to be clear; if we all had more time to get used to just how much of a boring bastard Andy Murray is, he would magically develop a personality?

Deleted user 27 November 2012 14:20:06

Yeah If you're saying that 'personality' in this context refers to their character when actually playing/doing more than their actual personality; I agree.

Murrays alright imo.

Deleted user 27 November 2012 14:21:34

For a scot he's cheerful, compared to a normal human he's a miserable fuck.

dufftownallan 27 Nov 2012 14:22:49 4,723 posts
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no, we're saying that you shouldn't judge on whether or not someone has a personality based on a handful of media interviews and nothing else.

did you actually bother to watch the youtube link that armoured bear linked to? did you read what rem said?

Trane 27 Nov 2012 14:23:48 4,050 posts
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You should just give up dufftown, unfortunately people's perceptions of Andy Murray border on ignorance. A lot of it stems from the shoddy journalism surrounding him being accused of 'anti-English' sentiment during the time of a major football tournament (which was later proved to be complete bollocks anyway).

He's basically just a passionate and hard-working (and successful) sportsman, who hates to lose and doesn't hide his negative emotion as well as others, tennis is a pretty lonely sport during matches. He's had his demons in terms of mastering the psychological side of the game, and doesn't interview especially well.

He's the most successful tennis player this country has produced for over 70 years, and a role model to thousands of kids playing/looking to take up the sport.

And yet people find it quite easy to 'hate' the 'miserable cunt'. It's nothing short of pathetic.

Deleted user 27 November 2012 14:25:29

I was just putting my favourite sports person in the hat; You quoted me. I'm not required to read or watch shit at your back and call.

nickthegun 27 Nov 2012 14:27:03 73,331 posts
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None of it stems from him being 'anti-english'. I would be saying exactly the same if.. well.. I cant think of a similarly boring english sports star, but if there was one, I would also object to him being nominated for an award called 'sports PERSONALITY of the year'.

Trane 27 Nov 2012 14:28:16 4,050 posts
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nickthegun wrote:
None of it stems from him being 'anti-english'. I would be saying exactly the same if.. well.. I cant think of a similarly boring english sports star, but if there was one, I would also object to him being nominated for an award called 'sports PERSONALITY of the year'.

SPOTY has never been about personality in truth, I'm surprised you didn't realise that.

JuanKerr 27 Nov 2012 14:28:40 37,708 posts
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Steven Gerrard is an English example. He's a personality vacuum as well.

And yes, that is based on TV interviews and the like.

Edited by JuanKerr at 14:29:38 27-11-2012

senso-ji 27 Nov 2012 14:32:35 8,284 posts
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I think Murray had every right to mock the England football team; they've been a bunch of over-hyped, over payed, under performing cunts for a decade now.

And Murray isn't dour or boring- he's a normal person who realises that being good at a sport doesn't make you a god (see a fore mentioned EPL players) and keeps himself to himself outside tournaments.

nickthegun 27 Nov 2012 14:32:44 73,331 posts
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Trane wrote:

nickthegun wrote:
None of it stems from him being 'anti-english'. I would be saying exactly the same if.. well.. I cant think of a similarly boring english sports star, but if there was one, I would also object to him being nominated for an award called 'sports PERSONALITY of the year'.
SPOTY has never been about personality in truth, I'm surprised you didn't realise that.

I'm fully aware of that which is why I object to it and Andy Murray so much.

JuanKerr 27 Nov 2012 14:36:34 37,708 posts
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nickthegun doesn't feel comfortable engaging with people on forums, but I know that he's not like that in real life.

nickthegun 27 Nov 2012 14:37:34 73,331 posts
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ram wrote:
Fuck me nickthegun are you being thick on purpose or do you have no choice?

Look at the cali
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Nice work

nickthegun 27 Nov 2012 14:37:41 73,331 posts
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Deleted user 27 November 2012 14:39:02

I'm struggling to think of any cheerful scots other than the Krankies.

nickthegun 27 Nov 2012 14:40:00 73,331 posts
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And thats only because they are rampant doggers

dufftownallan 27 Nov 2012 14:42:20 4,723 posts
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bitch_tits_zero_nine wrote:
I was just putting my favourite sports person in the hat; You quoted me. I'm not required to read or watch shit at your back and call.

wasn't aimed at you, was aimed at nick.

Deleted user 27 November 2012 14:43:13

Oh right sorry. Reading fail

dufftownallan 27 Nov 2012 14:44:42 4,723 posts
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Aargh. wrote:
I'm struggling to think of any cheerful scots other than the Krankies.

have you SEEN our football team...?

Deleted user 27 November 2012 14:45:42

You have a football team?!

Lukus 27 Nov 2012 14:48:28 21,198 posts
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I quite like Murray. His weird, overbearing, vulture-necked mum however, not so much.

dufftownallan 27 Nov 2012 14:50:48 4,723 posts
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I wouldn't mind your opinion at all if there was actually some basis in it nick, but to say he has no personality points to a lazy generalisation and a lack of knowledge, that's all.

dufftownallan 27 Nov 2012 14:52:23 4,723 posts
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Aargh. wrote:
You have a football team?!

aye! sometimes we manage to scrape a draw with the faroe islands.

nickthegun 27 Nov 2012 14:53:53 73,331 posts
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And the zealous defence of him points to lazy nationalism and a lack of objectivity.

pistol 27 Nov 2012 14:54:51 13,018 posts
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Trane wrote:

pistol wrote:

monkman76 wrote:
Got to be the miserable Scot for me. Was a cyclist last year. Poor reason but it's the only way I can split Murray and Wiggins!
I'm both a tennis and cycling fan and there's no way Murray's 1 slam and olympic gold can outshadow Wiggo's achievements. First Brit to win the TDF in 100 years and more Olympic medals than any other UK athlete. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
Agreed, I love both tennis and cycling and am a big Murray fan. It has to be Wiggins though, for me. The fact 'it was a cyclist last year' is just irrelevant.

I think if Murray had won Wimbledon instead of the US Open it might have been a little closer to Wiggo....perhaps.

pistol 27 Nov 2012 14:56:59 13,018 posts
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kalel wrote:
Also Wiggins is basically done now, whereas you get the sense Murray is really only just peaking and probably has greater things ahead of him.

It's so blatantly going to be Wiggins and deservedly so.

Are you kidding?

Wiggo's got at least 2 or 3 Grand Tours in him yet and I doubt he'll rest until he's at least won the Giro and Vuelta.

ram 27 Nov 2012 14:58:27 3,599 posts
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Trane 27 Nov 2012 14:59:00 4,050 posts
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nickthegun wrote:
And the zealous defence of him points to lazy nationalism and a lack of objectivity.

Or maybe some of us judge sportsmen on actual sporting ability, passion, and success. Not on whether they shone on the latest episode of celebrity juice.

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