Star Wars: The Force Awakens Page 371

  • Saul_Iscariot 15 May 2016 14:33:24 4,399 posts
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    @GoatApocalypse It isn't a laser gun, it is a blaster. They discharge cartridges when fired, though a cartridge holds more than one shot unlike a bullet. So maybe I am being unfair comparing lightning with a bullet? A bullet made of energy, or not?
  • Saul_Iscariot 15 May 2016 14:35:41 4,399 posts
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    @beastmaster I tried that, but he threw a strop, complained no one understood him the said he was going to his room to listen to some Alanis Morrisette.
  • Psiloc 15 May 2016 14:53:20 6,368 posts
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    What did he make of Empire when the Force could suddenly levitate objects and sense the future? Absolutely no precedent for that in A New Hope.

    Just assume that blaster fire has mass, if matter is the big sticking point here. Problem solved. It would be dead easy to argue that was the case anyway.
  • SteveMsater 15 May 2016 15:52:53 339 posts
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  • Saul_Iscariot 15 May 2016 16:29:53 4,399 posts
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    That is a tad unfair Steve. The kid in the Simpsons is quite clever.
  • SteveMsater 15 May 2016 18:28:14 339 posts
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    That's true, he's actually just overzealous. Not an absolute loony, like whatsvizface.
  • BreadBinLidHero 16 May 2016 01:16:00 10,803 posts
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    Oh my fucking God.
  • Mola_Ram 16 May 2016 01:21:54 26,196 posts
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    It's the ciiiiircle of liiiiiiiife
  • Anthony_UK 16 May 2016 02:01:04 3,094 posts
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    "It's the flotsam and jetsam from the period when I was twelve years old. All the books and films and comics that I liked when I was a child. The plot is simple—good against evil—and the film is designed to be all the fun things and fantasy things I remember. The word for this movie is fun."

    —George Lucas, 1977
  • hillbilly66 16 May 2016 02:17:30 3,502 posts
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    It strikes me that we're coming up against a brick wall because we're laymen, how much would it cost to commission somebody to look into this properly I mean? Physicist that specialises in ballistics I guess.
  • Deleted user 16 May 2016 05:46:37
    We've already got the world's foremost expert on fantasy laser bullet physics and ballistics
  • the_milkybar_kid 16 May 2016 06:08:21 8,474 posts
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    I'm still waiting for him to say "I have to go now, my planet needs me".
  • Deleted user 16 May 2016 06:28:22
    Vizzini's spaceship blew up on the way to his home planet

    Edited by PES_Fanboy at 06:32:44 16-05-2016
  • Jeepers 16 May 2016 06:39:04 16,616 posts
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    Vizzini's spaceship is the cardboard box his big boy nappies came in. With "Canon" crayon-scrawled on the side.
  • Deleted user 16 May 2016 07:03:29
    Personally taking a great deal of comfort in the knowledge that Vizz is in a great deal of existential anguish over this.

    Edited by GoatApocalypse at 07:03:59 16-05-2016
  • Nazo 16 May 2016 07:27:07 1,953 posts
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    I heard Lucas is planning a new edit of TESB where Vader stops Han's laser bolt with the force then uses it to write 'Dark side rules!' In the air like a sparkler at bonfire night.
  • Saul_Iscariot 16 May 2016 07:34:43 4,399 posts
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    @PirateRoberts When you say offer proof, I am assuming you saw the films. The cartridges being discharged are visible on screen, nothing to do with the EU. Two types of prop were built for the E-11, a resin cast and functioning one based on a real machine gun. The latter discharged a cartridge and is seen to give a blast of explosive gas when fired. That wouldn't happen with a laser, therefore must be a physical item being fired. If it is physical it can be manipulated, as demonstrated numerous times in the film series. Your failure to pay attention to what you see on screen and follow the implied logic of how things work is not my problem.
  • LeD 16 May 2016 07:38:59 7,063 posts
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    Still, Kylo Ren stopping a blaster shot just using his mind is pretty cool, eh?
  • elstoof 16 May 2016 07:49:30 28,126 posts
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    Doesn't the chewbacca thing wear an ammo belt for his pretend gun anyway
  • Deleted user 16 May 2016 07:55:30
    Saul_Iscariot wrote:
    @PirateRoberts When you say offer proof, I am assuming you saw the films. The cartridges being discharged are visible on screen, nothing to do with the EU. Two types of prop were built for the E-11, a resin cast and functioning one based on a real machine gun. The latter discharged a cartridge and is seen to give a blast of explosive gas when fired. That wouldn't happen with a laser, therefore must be a physical item being fired. If it is physical it can be manipulated, as demonstrated numerous times in the film series. Your failure to pay attention to what you see on screen and follow the implied logic of how things work is not my problem.
    Oh snap. (Blaster) shots fired.
  • Saul_Iscariot 16 May 2016 08:09:59 4,399 posts
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    @PirateRoberts Odd that you choose to berate me for using the EU to support my views, which I never have. And here you are doing just that to support yours. I was showing you that the manipulation of energy wasn't without precedent in the Star Wars films.

    You cannot claim to know how it is manipulated, as, to paraphrase yourself, it isn't explicitly stated in the films how. You simply observe what happens once, then draw a conclusion if something else feels like it fits in with that.

    We have seen the force manipulate both matter and energy. Therefore, stopping a blaster bolt mid flight is not in the realms of impossibility. As for the motion of the bolt, it isn't explained how they interact with each other. It doesn't require too much to think it may work like an elastic band, where the kinetic energy was waiting to be released.

    That does require an assumption on our part, but in terms of the force it doesn't contradict a single thing we know or have seen of the force. For a self proclaimed expert you seem to pick and choose what you are prepared to accept. And whilst it may be true that a great deal of the truths we cling to depend on our point of view, if it is seen on screen it is canon.
  • elstoof 16 May 2016 08:19:16 28,126 posts
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    What did the force manipulate in order to knock up Vader's mum
  • Jeepers 16 May 2016 08:19:50 16,616 posts
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    Punctuation
  • Decks 16 May 2016 08:21:28 31,014 posts
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    elstoof wrote:
    What did the force manipulate in order to knock up Vader's mum
    She was raped by a midochlorian
  • munki83 16 May 2016 08:28:30 1,853 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    elstoof wrote:
    What did the force manipulate in order to knock up Vader's mum
    She was raped by a midochlorian
    She was raped by Jarjar

    #JarjarIsSnokeSnokeIsJarjar
  • Deleted user 16 May 2016 08:29:59
    I watched this at the weekend. I don't get what everyone liked about it, it seemed a total rehash of the original films, very little creativity and I was pretty bored by it.
  • Deleted user 16 May 2016 08:38:38
    This is still going on?!

    Arguing about space magic on the internet... Your parents must be so proud!
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