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jonsaan 27,052 posts
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QotSAfan 2,402 posts
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Registered 14 years agoWell this is the best thing to happen to Star Wars in years! George Lucas won't be writing or directing? Count me in.
Also, the originals aren't amazing, solid but they pale compared to Indiana Jones.
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ecureuil wrote:
The big problem I had with it is that the originals built the Jedi up to be ancient, losts in the mists of time, virtually extinct for hundreds of years. Yet the prequels established that just twenty years previously they were fucking everywhere.
The Jedi were ruined in the prequels. They were all boring retards with no personality, I hope the new film reinterprets them but the whole extended universe now accepts them as being monks that walk around in dressing gowns. Bleh. -
jonsaan 27,052 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThe biggest problem I had with the prequels is Ewan McGreggor doing an impression of Terrence and Phillip. And that absolute cocktard Hayden whatsisface. -
ronuds 21,781 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThere are a million ways the prequels were terrible. Picking out a "biggest problem" can't be easy!
In the end, they just didn't have any of the magic that made the originals special. The actors, plot, writing, setting, etc. All terrible. -
I'll clarify that my "big problem with it" is referring to the Jedi, rather than the films themselves. The biggest problem with them as a whole is that they were made. -
ronuds 21,781 posts
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Registered 15 years agoYep - had they never been made we could go back to having good memories of SW. Now I don't think anyone can be anything but wary of this ep. 7.
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Whizzo 44,810 posts
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Registered 20 years agomeme wrote:
I believe he's a Cineworld Unlimited customer, 15 quid a month is a pretty sweet deal.
beastmaster's going to bankrupt himself on cinema tickets. -
beastmaster 22,373 posts
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Registered 17 years agoWhizzo wrote:
Yep. Sure am. Cineworld pass ftw!
meme wrote:
I believe he's a Cineworld Unlimited customer, 15 quid a month is a pretty sweet deal.
beastmaster's going to bankrupt himself on cinema tickets.
I am really fucking sad when it comes to Star Wars. I saw The Phantom Menace [censored] times at the cinema. -
Whizzo 44,810 posts
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Registered 20 years agoThat many times? Wow, I went once at a matinee performance as I had a half day of TOIL to take, then saw it again with my best mate to confirm I hadn't dreamt its quality.
Nope, it was still shite second time around. -
Disney haven't really had any involvement in the marvel films so far other than leaving the people involved to it, same for pixar.
Kathleen Kennedy does have an astounding track record as producer/executive producer so it's definitely a step up from Rick 'I do what George says' McCallum.
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I think we can all be sure that these will be Film Of The Year on release. Until the next film he watches, at least. -
The problem with the prequels is that Lucas often has some great ideas. He needs people to work with who will take those ideas and help him develop them into something that works. Alas he'd become so powerful and/or employed such sycophants that everyone just said "yes George" all the time.
There's plenty of really good stuff in the prequels and it wouldn't have taken too much script work and a bit of editing to improve them no end. Obviously one would also have had to direct the actors better too. But there was still plenty of good in there - especially in Sith. -
Khanivor 44,800 posts
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Registered 20 years agoScript and casting. Those were the major problems with the PT, imo. And I think RotS is a damn good SW movie, with the main negative being the weak reasoning given for Anakin turning. Which, when you consider that's the central pivot of the entire series of films, was a pretty major blunder. -
ronuds 21,781 posts
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Registered 15 years ago@ecureuil - Disney's pretty hit-and-miss with Marvel, no? Thor, Captain America, Hulk... buncha stinkers, innit? Thor was one of the biggest flops ever, ffs.
I think it could go either way, with the odds tilting the wrong way. I'm sure it'll make plenty of money, though. -
ecureuil wrote:
Not as far as I'm aware. There's no cross over between Pixar and Marvel and no sign of it happening. The most so far is Lassiter getting in as the overall animation head.
Aargh. wrote:
As I understand it, it's all becoming more integrated. I'm sure they'll get the right people on this film, even if they have to drag them from Pixar and Marvel. There's a ton of talented people working at Disney.
Disney haven't really had any involvement in the marvel films so far other than leaving the people involved to it, same for pixar.
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ronuds wrote:
Budget $150m, takings $449m
Thor was one of the biggest flops ever, ffs.
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MrSensible 26,517 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThor was actually my favourite one of those - and I always HATED the idea of Thor as a superhero character beforehand. -
ronuds 21,781 posts
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Registered 15 years agoSorry, I'm thinking of John Carter! -
Khanivor 44,800 posts
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Registered 20 years agoI'd like to see Hammil come back as an old Luke. Mentioned elsewhere on the internet, Hammil is the same age Guinness was when he first played Kenobi. Just please don't try and stuff everyone from the OT who is still drawing breath into it. I think the fan-wank overkill from the PT harmed those movies. Certainly a case where less would have been more.
Saying that, Solo and the Wookie should get a look in as their actors appear the only ones who haven't gone to fat. Leia would need her own sail barge these days. -
Khanivor wrote:
Watching them in this order really works:
Script and casting. Those were the major problems with the PT, imo. And I think RotS is a damn good SW movie, with the main negative being the weak reasoning given for Anakin turning. Which, when you consider that's the central pivot of the entire series of films, was a pretty major blunder.
A New Hope
The Empire Strikes Back
Revenge of the Sith
Return of the Jedi
There's not much in Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones that you need - perhaps just Anakin vs Sand People (very good sequence) and a few other moments. Sith works great as a flashback once Vader has been revealed as Anakin Skywalker in Empire. It also works leading into Jedi's portrayal of Vader as more sympathetic. -
There's this suggestion, the machete order.
This is:
A New Hope
The Empire Strikes Back
Attack of the Clones
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Khanivor 44,800 posts
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Registered 20 years ago@Maturin - TPM and AotC could certainly be condensed into one movie. Then make RotS Episode II and then go on and make a new Ep3 and have it full of Vader kicking ass and the settling in of the Empire. -
Bremenacht wrote:
I think it just shows how one dimensional many vocal people are in this thread about their consumption of the SW universe, if they (like you) think 1,2 & 3 are poor films.
vizzini wrote:
You are the lost character from The Big Bang Theory. The one they dropped because the writers thought he'd be too nerdy for any audience.
Ultimately the strongest point of persuasion I would make about why I now prefer 1,2,3 is that they are films about Jedi. The force is used liberally, showing it in action, its uses and showing its limits.
I spent all those years before episode 1 wanting films that showed more Jedi things in the vein of RotJ's two highest action moments. The OT collectively uses so little in the way of midi-chlorians and precision sabre work you could only fill a BFG dream bottle. By comparison 1,2 & 3 are like an ocean full of midi-chlorian action in every film, and the fight scenes are very athletic, and high impact, way beyond even the best confrontations in Empire, or RotJ.
Sadly others had imagined something more pedestrian, I guess.
The only bit that's good from all of 1, 2 and 3 is the first fight between Darth Maul and Jedi Neeson. The other 8 hours and 59 minutes are long winded shit.
That's a big assumption you are making. The big bang characters are all inbetweeners at best, without any popularity or sporting ability in their youth. By contrast I captained my Rugby team and went to county trials, played football for a team(defensive midfield), basketball from time to time and did outward bound, I also spent the better part of my teenage and uni years out partying too hard.
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