Building A Gaming PC - Parts Advice Needed Page 125

  • THFourteen 1 Nov 2018 05:09:10 50,888 posts
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    £166 for 1TB SSD!? Wow
  • b-rk 1 Nov 2018 05:50:16 817 posts
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    cost me about 197 quid a month ago. :/
  • Fake_Blood 1 Nov 2018 13:53:23 9,200 posts
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    b-rk wrote:
    yeah

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-MZ-76E1T0B-EU-Solid-State/dp/B078WST5RK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1541035408&sr=8-3&keywords=ssd+860
    Ow right an evo 860.
    I was thinking that sata 860 was some new faster port, like you have sata 3 gbps and sata 6 gbps, thought sata 860 was a new faster standard I was unaware off.
  • Rhaegyr 19 Nov 2018 16:20:08 4,673 posts
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    Looking for a decent 24/27" monitor with freesync to pair with a RX580 for less than £250.

    Is this even possible with the price above? Would I be better getting forgoing freesync and getting a decent IPS monitor?

    Any advice greatly appreciated!
  • Malek86 19 Nov 2018 17:00:00 8,158 posts
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    @Rhaegyr how about this=?

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-29WK500-29-Inch-Ultrawide-Freesync/dp/B079SJ36Y8/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1542646745&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=lg+ultrawide

    It's 29", but ultrawide means the overall height should be closer to 27".

    I suppose you'd still be able to use it as a normal 16:9 monitor for any game that doesnt support ultrawide. And 2560x1080 is not high enough to give a RX580 too much trouble, unlike say, a 1440p monitor.

    There is a cheaper and smaller 25" model too, but that doesn't have Freesync.

    Edited by Malek86 at 17:05:41 19-11-2018
  • Futaba 20 Nov 2018 00:22:44 3,636 posts
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    Hi guys. It been around 9 years since my last PC build so I'm looking at making a new one.

    I've decided to opt for the Ryzen 7 2700x CPU but I'm having more trouble deciding which GPU to go for, currently am leaning between the RTX 2080 and a GTX 1080ti. I wish they weren't the closer side to a grand but that's the side effect of all the crypto mining and NVIDIA having a monopoly. If I want a high-end one I guess I have to fork out.

    Any thoughts on which to opt for? I currently have a 1080p PC monitor but I'm going to buy a new one in future, undecided between 1440p and 4k at the moment but leaning towards the latter. I am thinking the RTX 2080 might have the edge based on the fact it's not much more expensive than the 1080ti's and it is probably more future-proof based on the connections and new tech in it.

    Here's the full build I'm looking at making, constructive criticism/comments welcome:

    CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700x
    GPU: 1080ti/RTX2080
    SSD: Samsung 500gb Evo
    HDD: 10TB HDD
    PSU: 750W Corsair RMX750x Modular
    MOBO: MSIX470 M7
    RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) Corsair 3000mhz
    Case: Not sure? Open to recommendations. Need one with good air flow.

    Edited by Futaba at 00:26:07 20-11-2018
  • b-rk 20 Nov 2018 00:44:09 817 posts
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    I have a 2700X paired with a 1080ti and am quite pleased with it. One thing, change the RAM to G. Skill F4-3200C14-8GFX. Ryzen seems to like Samsung B-Die modules the best. I went with the H500P Mesh, it's reasonably priced and has good airflow but personally I found it a pain in the arse to build in, so took out the PSU shroud but you'll probably have more patience than I do.
  • THFourteen 20 Nov 2018 07:07:34 50,888 posts
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    @Rhaegyr

    Or spend your whole budget plus £5 on this

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B06Y634VP9/ref=psdcmw_428652031_t2_B079SJ36Y8
  • Futaba 20 Nov 2018 09:33:50 3,636 posts
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    b-rk wrote:
    I have a 2700X paired with a 1080ti and am quite pleased with it. One thing, change the RAM to G. Skill F4-3200C14-8GFX. Ryzen seems to like Samsung B-Die modules the best. I went with the H500P Mesh, it's reasonably priced and has good airflow but personally I found it a pain in the arse to build in, so took out the PSU shroud but you'll probably have more patience than I do.
    Thanks for the info about the RAM, didn't realise how much better some would perform with Ryzen. I'll keep looking into other cases, that one doesn't sound fun to setup lol.

    Amazon have £50 off of this SSD I was looking at for a Black Friday deal. Seems like an obvious good buy right now even though I might not complete the build until early next year.

    Edited by Futaba at 09:35:10 20-11-2018
  • OnlyJoeKing 20 Nov 2018 12:18:16 823 posts
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    @Futaba on 4k vs 1440p, if probably go for the latter with high refresh rate. My 3440x1440 screen only goes up to 75hz, kind of wish it was more!

    Thought this video was fairly well argued:

    https://youtu.be/ehvz3iN8pp4
  • Futaba 20 Nov 2018 17:18:26 3,636 posts
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    Thanks for that link Joe, pretty good arguments there that have made me reconsider.

    I've been researching different cases today and Im very tempted by the Corsair 780T, despite it not being the cheapest (I want to make myself poor apparently). Anyone have any experience with this case, or the 760T?

    I'm also looking at NZXT H500 and S340 Elite if anyone has any comments on those...

    Edited by Futaba at 19:06:18 20-11-2018
  • Deleted user 20 November 2018 18:50:33
    Any owners of a Vega 56? I'm thinking of picking one up and wondering what averages you get in graphic levels and fps when paired with a Ryzen CPU.
  • b-rk 20 Nov 2018 23:16:17 817 posts
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    Vega seems to be doing well in some of the recent benchmarks I've seen. Can't do any better for £300.
  • Futaba 6 Dec 2018 17:00:04 3,636 posts
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    Hey guys. I managed to finish my build last weekend and I'm pretty ecstatic with how it's turned out. Got some pics to share for those who may be interested :)

    1. Components
    2. Mid-build.
    3. First boot.
    4. Setup finished
  • Tomo 6 Dec 2018 21:01:49 16,320 posts
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    So you're the person that buys RGB things.
  • Technoishmatt 6 Dec 2018 21:27:28 3,096 posts
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    I would if I was a teenager, for sure.
  • Futaba 6 Dec 2018 21:55:46 3,636 posts
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    Tomo wrote:
    So you're the person that buys RGB things.
    Never really bought anything like it before making this build, but I'm quite chuffed with it ;)
  • Deleted user 6 December 2018 23:15:26
    @Futaba I wish I had enough money to afford a build with a 2080.

    I've gone with a Vega 56 but was initially going for an RX 590 but reconsidered because of the ridiculous power draw, which is minimal for the performance advantage it has over a 580.
  • Deleted user 6 December 2018 23:16:38
    Nice build.

    GOOD CABLE MANAGEMENT
  • Deleted user 6 December 2018 23:35:25
    Actually, I think I would have gone for a 1080 instead of a 2080; for the performance I don't think it's worth the price tag.

    I'd go for a 1440p monitor for the higher framerate and less input lag over a 4K monitor. Saying that, your build has a 2080 so you might be able to push past 60fps on an expensive 4k monitor - if you opted for this I'd be interested to know if your CPU bottlenecks the graphics card if it's the hexa core Ryzen.
  • Futaba 7 Dec 2018 00:12:30 3,636 posts
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    @Innit

    Thanks, I saved up most of this year for it. I decided to opt for the 2080 over a 1080 ti because the price wasn't massively different (I didn't want to buy second-hand) and the 2080 has some new tech that game developers are just starting to use that will hopefully become more efficient and powerful in future years.

    I also bought a new monitor for this new build, after using a 1080p Samsung 23" for 6 years I bought a new MSI 2440p 144hz monitor. I got it on Black Friday for £239 which I thought was pretty decent considering most other 144hz 2k monitors were closer to around £500. I went for the Ryzen 2700x CPU so I think it's a good match for the 2080.
  • THFourteen 18 Dec 2018 19:27:27 50,888 posts
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    https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/a7bfzz/rtx_for_your_balls/

    Love this
  • Technoishmatt 23 Dec 2018 03:50:11 3,096 posts
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    Just wanted to report that I have got my Oculus Rift working on my Dell XPS13 laptop, connected to the Razer Core V2 eGPU via Thunderbolt 3, with the 1070 from my desktop (now in storage) in it.

    I donít think performance is quite as good as it was on my desktop with an i7700k, but I understand I get a big boost if I run an external screen rather than running the graphics back down the thunderbolt cable to the laptop. Just need to get a DisplayPort to HDMI cable to use with my TV.

    Was completely plug n play (once I actually used one of the two thunderbolt ports), even the nvidia drivers, unexpectedly (I did download geforce experience tho). The only that isnít working, bizarrely, is the Razer Synapse app, which would allow me to control the lighting scheme for the Core 2 (ie turn it the lights off...).

    Anyway, pretty chuffed it is working so smoothly! Alows me to just have an ultraportable laptop, but also be able to use a desktop GPU, and have the laptop and GPU on separate upgrade cycles. I found gaming laptops had too many tradeoffs. Only thing I did not like was the price of the Razer eGPU.
  • THFourteen 7 Jan 2019 08:56:55 50,888 posts
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    New 2060 announced, "more powerful" than a 1070Ti for £350.... seems reasonable? Also seems like it comes with Anthem.

    And in bigger news, NVIDIA are now supporting freesync, albeit only "officially" on 12 monitors so far, but it "might" work on other monitors.

    Thats massive.
  • Malek86 7 Jan 2019 08:59:37 8,158 posts
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    I'm still waiting for the new mid-range. £350 is definitely not mid-range.
  • THFourteen 7 Jan 2019 09:00:18 50,888 posts
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    Malek86 wrote:
    I'm still waiting for the new mid-range. £350 is definitely not mid-range.
    Sadly its the "new" mid-range :-)
  • Malek86 7 Jan 2019 09:17:15 8,158 posts
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    Well, if it's more powerful than the 1070 Ti, that puts it actually quite close to the 2070. I wouldn't consider that mid-range.
  • b-rk 7 Jan 2019 10:57:20 817 posts
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    Indeed. Where is the mid-range now? It's left to AMD it seems. I might pick up the 2060 and stick it in my old rig, which still gets some use.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 7 Jan 2019 23:28:49 3,374 posts
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    And still I am stuck about which graphics card I want as I don't any expect any AMD competition until second half of the year... 2060 is an option, but for a hundred more you can get a 2070 which might last a year longer with the extra speed boost and RAM... My monitor is only 21:9 2560x1080 so less than 1440P power needed and it is Freesync but not sure how much I care about that if I have a fast enough card.

    Space is sadly a premium in my current case (my 670 Windforce3X technically fits but I have to sacrifice drive bays to get it in there...) which makes the Vegas look awkward (would be looking at 56 if I went Vega) and not sure if worth bothering with 580/90 level now if I will need an upgrade a lot sooner tuan other options. I have waited too long for an upgrade...
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 9 Jan 2019 22:00:13 3,374 posts
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    Well, the AMD conference GLU announcement was no help to me with only a higher end Vega II announcement. So now I have to decide if I want a £185 589 (with two decent free games), a £245 590 (with the previous two games plus Division II which I don't really care too much about) for a small increase, or jump to a 2060 (with a free game which I may or may not like ) for an estimated £330-£350 (and no preorders actually makable yet) but the potential 6GB limitation.

    I think the 2070 is probably overkill bit sonetimes that means it lasts longer so is an outlier at £460 (with same free game choice as 2060) for the Ventus model that will fit in my case. Vega 56 seems too big and too pricy comparatively unless an unforeseen price drop happens in next few days. The 1060GB seems to be slightly worse deal than similar performance RX580 so ignoring that one (and same 6GB question mark as 2060)

    I am running a 4790K at default 4Ghz clock with 16GB RAM (potential spare 16GB to try from old PC but doubt it is too necessary at the moment) with a 21:9 2560x1080 ultrawide I hope not to upgrade for a few years. Any opinions?
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