Building A Gaming PC - Parts Advice Needed Page 126

  • THFourteen 9 Jan 2019 23:23:29 51,946 posts
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    Iím running a 4790k @4.4 at the moment and feel no urge to upgrade the CPU.

    Also have a 980ti powering a 3440x1440 ultrawide... itís alright but would think about upgrading if I had the money or even used the machine much. The monitor can do 100hz but even Destiny 2 will only push 50-75 fps on high.

    But there isnít a card out there now I would upgrade to TBH. Maybe youíd be better off doing what b0rk did and getting a 1080ti as cheap as you can? At your resolution it would be overkill tho.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 10 Jan 2019 00:02:28 3,482 posts
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    2070 is cheaper than 1080TI which I know is way more than I need as mu ultrawide is only the 1080P equivalent so less pixels on screen than 1440P as I don't really see tge need for higher resolution. I considered 1440P 16:9 but fancied the ultrawide more and my budget was better served by lower res (and the fact that I am running on the HD4600 at the moment...)

    I have no desire for 4K any time soon. So I am trying to decide if I want to go cheap (ATI 580, or a little more future proof with rtx 2060 or 2070). I am guessing the 6GB shouldn't be an issue until 4K so can ignore the pricier 2070... I just fear that if I go ATI I will need an upgrade a lot sooner but then again jext years carda at 7nm should be a bit nicer performancewise bit thinking too far ahead is a dangerous game (and I have been waiting too long through the whole Pascal generation on the HD4600, although mining prices were a big factor)
  • b-rk 10 Jan 2019 13:08:43 925 posts
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    The 2060 is exhibiting some curious behaviour when it comes to 1% and 0.1% lows. Perhaps itís coming up against bandwidth limitations when it matters most. Also something to consider is its vram; 6GB sounds ok now but when the new consoles arrive you might find youíll have to compromise on textures. I found that out when I had to sidegrade to a 4GB 960 (from 2GB 670) not long after the PS4 launched. The 1070 Ti could be what youíre looking for.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 10 Jan 2019 14:54:26 3,482 posts
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    Yeah, the futureproofness of the 6GB is one of the factors against it for me (and no actual preorders available a week before release). Which leads me to consider either stepping up to the 2070 (one of the more cokpact cards like the Ventus) if I can afford it or go cheap and get a 580 and hope it lasts a couple of years and there are better upgrade options available... Last ATI card I was the HD4980 Black... Then again last Nvidia was the dead 670 so... Having to unexpectedly buy a new monitor while I was preparing to buy gfx cards wasn't helpful...
  • THFourteen 10 Jan 2019 17:52:40 51,946 posts
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    Pleased with my 980ti. Shelled out 600 for it but itís lasted a long while.

    Tempted to go 2080 next for 600 if prices come down.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 10 Jan 2019 18:39:01 3,482 posts
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    I am sure an rtx 2080 would be more futureproof for me but at my resolutions abd budget I am more inclined lower (if money were no object however...)
  • THFourteen 10 Jan 2019 18:40:02 51,946 posts
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    @One_Vurfed_Gwrx

    You may one day upgrade your monitor. I know you think 1080p is great now but 1440p is so much nicer :-)
  • b-rk 10 Jan 2019 19:05:52 925 posts
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    @THFourteen

    The 980ti was a monster when it was released, years later itís still good by sheer brute force. Tiís are good, Iíd say stick with Ti but the prices will be crazy from now on it seems. 🤔
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 10 Jan 2019 19:24:47 3,482 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    @One_Vurfed_Gwrx

    You may one day upgrade your monitor. I know you think 1080p is great now but 1440p is so much nicer :-)
    I am sure I will but as I just bought a new monitor I imagine I will stick with it for at least three years (bar disaster). I had considered 1440P but decided I fancied ultrawide more. And the 1440P 21:9's are a bit pricy at the moment (and of course my next logical step as I don't see the point of 4K at PC monitor proximity). I absolutely cannot afford a 2080 anyway so it seems a false economy to be 'too' futureproof as cards when I need one will be cheaper/better.

    Just got to decide between the three most viable options, each with their own cons, 2070 (price being a little higher than I would like), 2060 (the 6GB RAM conundrum and the wait for actual ability to order them) and the RX 580 (will age a lot faster so will need replaced a lot sooner, no idea how ATI drivers are these days). Game bundles are better for ATI at the moment but that shouldn't be a deciding factor. Vega 56's are creeping up in price and most seem a bit long for my case. RX 590 seems overpriced for the minor speed boost over sale price 580s.
  • b-rk 10 Jan 2019 19:56:06 925 posts
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    The 1070ti offers similar performance to the 2060 has more vram and are going for around £380. Seems ideal for what youíre after. I mean at 1080p youíd be set for a long time.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 10 Jan 2019 21:39:53 3,482 posts
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    With the ultrawide I am closer to 1440P resolutionwise but I imagine it is still fine at that level too, just looks a bit bad when it is more expensive than the faster (but less RAM 2060) but it could get some price cuts once the 2060 is out in the wild so may be worthwhile for me to look into it... I shall have to add it to my options rather than just discounting it as 'older'
  • THFourteen 10 Jan 2019 22:34:22 51,946 posts
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    There are really only two PC games I want to play this year, Anthem and Mechwarrior 5. Iíd love to play those with all the bells and whistles on at 100fps but it isnít worth the cost right now sadly.
  • StixxUK 11 Jan 2019 09:53:52 8,145 posts
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    Guess the big question for me now is whether to upgrade to a Fresync monitor for my 1070... Eagerly awaiting some user experiences on this!
  • neems 11 Jan 2019 10:36:30 4,548 posts
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    @StixxUK

    Are you referring to the announcement by Nvidia that they are going to support Freesync? I would wait a while before jumping in on that one.
  • StixxUK 11 Jan 2019 11:46:20 8,145 posts
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    I am... But yes definitely waiting to see how people get on. Understand it should be launched in the next couple of weeks though...
  • THFourteen 11 Jan 2019 12:02:04 51,946 posts
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    Gah keep clicking on links for 2080s and thinking it would be nice to play Anthem on Ultra @ 100fps 3440x1440
  • StixxUK 11 Jan 2019 12:22:16 8,145 posts
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    @THFourteen assuming it's not shit, of course!
  • THFourteen 11 Jan 2019 12:35:01 51,946 posts
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    @StixxUK

    I have faith. I think itíll be awesome. I only really ever play the single player stuff anyway....
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 12 Jan 2019 12:57:28 3,482 posts
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    After deciding that the RX 580 was a bit too weak for any future games and a bit on the long side ohysically, and that tge 2060's 6GB is also a potential issue I took the leap and ordered a 2070. I wanted the EVGA Black but again a tad too long for my crappy case (and I am not transplanting a motherboard if I can get away with not doing it nor sacrificing drive bays) so went for an MSI Ventus... Hopefully it is decent as it has had a few good online reviews. Now to decide if I want BF V to try out the rtx features or a risk on Anthem which may or may not be good as Nvidia are cheap and only offer both games with a 2080... I need to read up on Anthem later as I have paid it zero attention. Metro Exodus is on my want list though if I want to try an RTX title (hopefully a bit more optimised than previous announcements of it aiming for 1080P60 on a 2080 TI...). Either way should run anyrhing I want for this year at least... And by far the most I have ever put down on a graphics card...

    Edit - I looked at 1070TI but prices for decent models weren't much lower than the 2070 so...

    Edited by One_Vurfed_Gwrx at 13:24:47 12-01-2019
  • sherpa1984 12 Jan 2019 13:31:12 793 posts
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    Where do we stand on CPUs these days? I bought mine 3 years ago when CPUs became stagnant and the famed 2700k was still good enough. Current specs are:

    i5 6600k at 4.5GHz
    12GB DDR4 RAM
    1080Ti
    1440p 144Hz Gsync

    I feel the CPU is far behind everything else but Iím still at a point where Iím putting everything on high and getting frame rates Iím happy with.

    That said, people are raving about AMDs latest chips? Ryzen 2 is it?
  • Tomo 12 Jan 2019 13:50:05 16,570 posts
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    @sherpa1984

    I've got fairly similar specs to you:
    i5 6600K @ 3.9 GHz (can go higher but I think I have cooling issues/PSU too weak)
    16GB RAM
    2080
    3440x1440 @ 100Hz

    CPU is fine for most games Ė the overclocking made a big difference to PUBG when I implemented it recently. But PUBG is terribly optimised. Everything else runs at full spec fine though. It's lovely.
  • Tomo 12 Jan 2019 13:52:05 16,570 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    Gah keep clicking on links for 2080s and thinking it would be nice to play Anthem on Ultra @ 100fps 3440x1440
    I got one on new year's eve as an upgrade from a 970. Massive jump for me. I can actually hit 100fps at native res now with all the bells and whistles. Paid £590 with a code on eBay, first hand through a store. Certainly dear, but I had Christmas money to ease the pain.
  • Tomo 12 Jan 2019 13:54:44 16,570 posts
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    Also, I played the game you mentioned when I had my 970 and it was really beautiful even on that. They can make great engines, I'll give them that. Found it really dull, but if you like Destiny/The Division, you'll love it I expect.
  • Spectral 12 Jan 2019 14:02:50 6,190 posts
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    @sherpa1984 I wouldn't bother. You said it yourself "Iím putting everything on high and getting frame rates Iím happy with" . So why upgrade just for the sake of it. Upgrade when its no longer doing what you need it too.
  • StixxUK 12 Jan 2019 14:06:55 8,145 posts
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    Yeah for me, upgrade time comes when I can't play the games I want looking and feeling like they should - not just because I know there's something better available.

    I get it a bit more for graphics cards - you want a new monitor, you want to up the resolution etc... but a processor isn't going to have that transformative effect, it'd just remove a bottleneck which in your case doesn't seem to be holding you back anyway.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 12 Jan 2019 14:21:35 3,482 posts
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    I hear plenty of people are managing fine with high end graphics cards and my CPU, the 4790K which is two generations older than yours. I don't get DDR4 but I don't think that makes that much difference in the real world really. One day I might look at overclocking it but that would likely be for emulation not PC games so... Not planning to upgrade that bar disaster. Hopefully my 2070 will arrive tomorrow and I can also see if my Freesync monitor works but I think my frame rates will be too high to need it at my resolution (I assume the point of Freesync and Gsync is only when you are running below the monitor's refresh rate)
  • sherpa1984 12 Jan 2019 16:15:26 793 posts
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    Thanks all.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 13 Jan 2019 14:44:45 3,482 posts
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    Glad I went with the short Ventus as it was a tight squeeze. Got caught out by a few things lime a connector protector I had never encountered on a graphics card before but up and running and seems to be working from quick benchmark tests. Very quiet as well surprisingly. Later is more game testing/benchmarking.... I definitely need a new case when I do my next gfx card upgrade though...
  • Tomo 13 Jan 2019 15:15:50 16,570 posts
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    Aye, my 2080 is quieter than my 970 was, which is nice. But overclocking my CPU undid that anyway so whatever.
  • Carlo 13 Jan 2019 15:20:36 20,537 posts
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    I've placed my CPU and GPU (i7-8700k and RTX 2080) back on stock speeds as it's not worth the instability, or heat/noise, for the extra couple of frames.

    Edited by Carlo at 15:22:25 13-01-2019
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