Building A Gaming PC - Parts Advice Needed Page 156

  • Carlo 9 Apr 2020 11:29:05 21,272 posts
    Seen 44 minutes ago
    Registered 15 years ago
    b-rk wrote:
    challenge_hanukkah wrote:
    I'll give that a try.

    Cheers.
    also try AS SSD and post results
    AS SSD Benchmark 2.0.7316.34247
    ------------------------------
    Name: Samsung SSD 970 EVO 500GB
    Firmware: 2B2QEXE7
    Controller: stornvme
    Offset: 629760 K - OK
    Size: 465.76 GB
    Date: 09/04/2020 11:28:50
    ------------------------------
    Sequential:
    ------------------------------
    Read: 2129.45 MB/s
    Write: 2156.08 MB/s
    ------------------------------
    4K:
    ------------------------------
    Read: 29.62 MB/s
    Write: 48.07 MB/s
    ------------------------------
    4K-64Threads:
    ------------------------------
    Read: 1330.31 MB/s
    Write: 1767.47 MB/s
    ------------------------------
    Access Times:
    ------------------------------
    Read: 0.133 ms
    Write: 0.077 ms
    ------------------------------
    Score:
    ------------------------------
    Read: 1573
    Write: 2031
    Total: 4407
    ------------------------------
  • KD 9 Apr 2020 11:37:13 2,722 posts
    Seen 52 minutes ago
    Registered 15 years ago
    Globbits wrote:
    @challenge_hanukkah CrystalDiskMark?
    Thats what I used
  • b-rk 9 Apr 2020 11:42:48 1,247 posts
    Seen 11 minutes ago
    Registered 2 years ago
    @Carlo

    oh oh, i just bought nvme drive gonna post mine brb



    seems ok for a cheapo drive 👍

    Edited by b-rk at 11:52:19 09-04-2020
  • brokenkey 9 Apr 2020 11:52:21 10,495 posts
    Seen 14 hours ago
    Registered 19 years ago
    challenge_hanukkah wrote:
    Can anyone recommend me some decent and above all free software for benchmarking a NVME SSD please?
    https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/
  • Spectral 9 Apr 2020 11:53:20 6,382 posts
    Seen 8 hours ago
    Registered 17 years ago
    @Carlo Did you have anything else other than the benchmark using the drive at the same time? While well above SATA speeds they look a tad lower than I would have expected for that drive.

    @b-rk Same drive I got a couple of weeks ago for some extra game storage.

    Edited by Spectral at 11:56:33 09-04-2020
  • docrob 9 Apr 2020 12:09:54 1,565 posts
    Seen 12 minutes ago
    Registered 12 years ago
    brokenkey wrote:
    I can't believe they didn't test it working before shipping it - or maybe that's the installer's job, he did test it, found it wasn't worked and didn't want to cop the blame.
    I ordered a prebuilt some years ago and it wouldnít boot up. I opened the case and discovered, after a little poking around, that the power cable to the hard disk hadnít been connected up. Once it was connected it all worked fine.

    I emailed the company who built it, just to point out that it clearly hadnít been checked before shipping and that their QC needed looking at. They denied all responsibility and said it had been fully checked before it shipped. I decided not to use them again.
  • Carlo 9 Apr 2020 12:17:47 21,272 posts
    Seen 44 minutes ago
    Registered 15 years ago
    @Spectral

    Yeah I didn't stop anything else running, so this wasn't a proper benchmark test in that sense.
  • Fake_Blood 9 Apr 2020 16:10:42 10,367 posts
    Seen 2 minutes ago
    Registered 11 years ago
    Install the samsung thing Carlo, itíll also update the firmware.
  • Carlo 9 Apr 2020 16:16:07 21,272 posts
    Seen 44 minutes ago
    Registered 15 years ago
    I didn't think to check the firmware on it
  • Carlo 9 Apr 2020 16:31:07 21,272 posts
    Seen 44 minutes ago
    Registered 15 years ago
    Firmware didn't need an update, driver did. Rebenched it and it's WORSE!

    AS SSD Benchmark 2.0.7316.34247
    ------------------------------
    Name: Samsung SSD 970 EVO 500GB
    Firmware: 2B2Q
    Controller: secnvme
    Offset: 629760 K - OK
    Size: 465.76 GB
    Date: 09/04/2020 16:36:21
    ------------------------------
    Sequential:
    ------------------------------
    Read: 2029.52 MB/s
    Write: 2194.99 MB/s
    ------------------------------
    4K:
    ------------------------------
    Read: 29.69 MB/s
    Write: 45.01 MB/s
    ------------------------------
    4K-64Threads:
    ------------------------------
    Read: 1322.28 MB/s
    Write: 1735.65 MB/s
    ------------------------------
    Access Times:
    ------------------------------
    Read: 0.119 ms
    Write: 0.051 ms
    ------------------------------
    Score:
    ------------------------------
    Read: 1555
    Write: 2000
    Total: 4356
    ------------------------------

    Edited by Carlo at 16:36:37 09-04-2020
  • b-rk 9 Apr 2020 16:32:46 1,247 posts
    Seen 11 minutes ago
    Registered 2 years ago
    Ha. why are the samsung drives so expensive. the sabrent gen 4 drives are cheaper.
  • Carlo 9 Apr 2020 16:33:50 21,272 posts
    Seen 44 minutes ago
    Registered 15 years ago
    It might be because it's smaller and more full maybe?
  • b-rk 9 Apr 2020 16:37:26 1,247 posts
    Seen 11 minutes ago
    Registered 2 years ago
    hm, maybe but my sata drives don't drop much performance when stocked with files. smaller could be more of a factor but the drive still looks to be underperforming.
  • b-rk 9 Apr 2020 16:49:12 1,247 posts
    Seen 11 minutes ago
    Registered 2 years ago
    plucked from a 970 evo review

  • b-rk 9 Apr 2020 17:18:38 1,247 posts
    Seen 11 minutes ago
    Registered 2 years ago
    jesus

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Mz-76P4T0B-Internal-Solid-State/dp/B07BSQVH91/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=4tb+ssd&qid=1586448320&sr=8-8

    O_O
  • Blackmarsh63 9 Apr 2020 17:53:59 3,272 posts
    Seen 53 minutes ago
    Registered 5 years ago
    @b-rk 5 monthly payments of £180 . Oh go on then, I'll have two. :-)

    Edited by Blackmarsh63 at 17:59:00 09-04-2020
  • b-rk 9 Apr 2020 17:58:25 1,247 posts
    Seen 11 minutes ago
    Registered 2 years ago
    2 x 2tb mx500 less than half the price 😲

    edit

    oh wait, that mega price is for the pro version. wtf does that even mean? it will make you pro? 🤣🤣🤣

    Edited by b-rk at 18:01:30 09-04-2020
  • Fake_Blood 9 Apr 2020 18:23:58 10,367 posts
    Seen 2 minutes ago
    Registered 11 years ago
    Here's my 970 evo plus:

    AS SSD Benchmark 2.0.7316.34247
    ------------------------------
    Name: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB
    Firmware: 2B2QEXM7
    Controller: stornvme
    Offset: 660480 K - OK
    Size: 931.51 GB
    Date: 4/9/2020 7:18:55 PM
    ------------------------------
    Sequential:
    ------------------------------
    Read: 2984.02 MB/s
    Write: 2654.85 MB/s
    ------------------------------
    4K:
    ------------------------------
    Read: 59.86 MB/s
    Write: 141.48 MB/s
    ------------------------------
    4K-64Threads:
    ------------------------------
    Read: 1899.70 MB/s
    Write: 2244.23 MB/s
    ------------------------------
    Access Times:
    ------------------------------
    Read: 0.072 ms
    Write: 0.026 ms
    ------------------------------
    Score:
    ------------------------------
    Read: 2258
    Write: 2651
    Total: 6052
    ------------------------------

    Don't like this benchmark though, I get different values every time
  • Beetroot_Bertie 9 Apr 2020 18:44:23 510 posts
    Seen 3 hours ago
    Registered 13 years ago
    Dunno if it will help, but getting this from my 970 evo plus...

  • b-rk 9 Apr 2020 21:36:53 1,247 posts
    Seen 11 minutes ago
    Registered 2 years ago
    hm, rocket does ok, not as fast on read speed

  • Malek86 9 Apr 2020 22:17:01 10,090 posts
    Seen 11 minutes ago
    Registered 13 years ago
    I could benchmark my SATA M2, but it would probably look like crap next to all those NVMe drives.
  • MrWonderstuff 9 Apr 2020 22:39:02 3,259 posts
    Seen 2 hours ago
    Registered 15 years ago
    This is just the Rocket Q - £95 for 1Tb:



    I think it's pretty good for the price - not interested in write speed as its for gaming. Loads everything very quickly.

    Edited by MrWonderstuff at 22:39:26 09-04-2020
  • Technoishmatt 9 Apr 2020 23:22:27 4,125 posts
    Seen 9 seconds ago
    Registered 6 years ago
    Wait till I benchmark my xbox series x. Blow you pc peasants out of the water :p
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 9 Apr 2020 23:33:39 8,685 posts
    Seen 2 minutes ago
    Registered 15 years ago
    @Technoishmatt Yeah, yeah, let's see if I've got an Ampere GPU in the PC by then. :)
  • Technoishmatt 9 Apr 2020 23:36:40 4,125 posts
    Seen 9 seconds ago
    Registered 6 years ago
    MS / Sony should come up with a form of SLI for their consoles. Just add another one for upgraded performance. No messing about with multiple SKUs.
  • KD 9 Apr 2020 23:48:37 2,722 posts
    Seen 52 minutes ago
    Registered 15 years ago
    Sabrent 1TB Rocket
  • b-rk 10 Apr 2020 01:15:49 1,247 posts
    Seen 11 minutes ago
    Registered 2 years ago
    hmm... my drive seems slow on some tests. all my drives are on the same controller right now.
  • Mr_Sleep 14 Apr 2020 16:59:24 23,333 posts
    Seen 14 hours ago
    Registered 18 years ago
    It seems to me that I may be in need of an upgrade. My PC is starting to grind to a halt. I have been trying to do some music production stuff and it is barely coping. This is no surprise considering I am still running an intel i3.

    I do not reallly require it for gaming as I barely play anything that is graphically intensive so I will be able to use my current ancient graphics card. The primary purpose of the new machine will be music related so the CPU is probably the most important thing.

    I have a few questions that I hope someone can answer.

    1) I upgraded to Windows 10 from Windows 7, will I still be able to use this licence in a new PC or will it consider the hardware all new and require a new licence? I can't remember what the situation is with that.

    2) I fancy going AMD for a change and I was checking between a Ryzen 3 and 5 and the price difference is quite substantial, will there be much gain for my purposes from going for the 5 or can I keep the budget down?

    3) Is this the worst time possible to be doing a PC upgrade? Has there been much volitility in prices since covid?

    Thanks in advance.
  • KD 14 Apr 2020 19:34:26 2,722 posts
    Seen 52 minutes ago
    Registered 15 years ago
    @Mr_Sleep I know number 1, it is tied to the motherboard so you will have to get a new code, they are online for under a tenner.
  • uiruki 14 Apr 2020 19:38:16 5,196 posts
    Seen 5 hours ago
    Registered 17 years ago
    In order:

    1) It should work just fine. It might need to reactivate but I didn't have any bother going from a 7700K to a 3900X. My licence was an upgrade from a cheap Windows 8 licence. The Activation settings menu in Windows 10 tells you if it's digitally activated and how to make sure it's all synced up with your MS account which I think will be the main thing. As long as you sign in you should be fine. Worst case scenario it'll be like when I put in the 7700K and I had to do a live chat with MS.

    2) I think the Ryzen 5 gains hyperthreading which can be a decent amount of 'free' performance. If you're going to do tasks which can be threaded (which most stuff is nowadays) I think you'll find it worthwhile.

    Checking PC Part Picker the non-AF 1600 is 95 quid at CCL (who have always been good for me), and you can get the 2600 for 115 at Aria (who have been a bit shaky). Cheapest Ryzen 3 is a quad core for a shade under 70 so for 25 quid you get two more cores and three times the threads, which you'll notice when it's time to render. They all come with coolers.

    I'd probably go with the 1600 in the absence of the AF as a few hundred megahertz isn't worth 20 quid when you won't be hitting it most of the time and you're already speeding ahead of your i3.

    3) It's always the worst time and the best time to do an upgrade. Sounds like you've convinced yourself you need it so no point waiting. Enjoy researching motherboards!
Log in or register to reply

Sometimes posts may contain links to online retail stores. If you click on one and make a purchase we may receive a small commission. For more information, go here.