Building A Gaming PC - Parts Advice Needed Page 158

  • b-rk 7 May 2020 11:08:15 1,211 posts
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    what gpu
  • KD 7 May 2020 14:33:51 2,682 posts
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    https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/amd-ryzen-4000-zen-3-motherboard-compatibility/

    Looks like the 3000 series is best I can get for a X470 board.
  • Duffking 7 May 2020 14:56:42 16,582 posts
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    Is it me or are there no next/previous page buttons on this thread.
  • neems 7 May 2020 16:05:29 4,822 posts
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    Duffking wrote:
    Is it me or are there no next/previous page buttons on this thread.
    Just you.
  • brokenkey 7 May 2020 16:21:24 10,464 posts
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    I did a new build the other week:
    Asus Tuf x570 wifi
    Ryzen7 3700x
    5700XT (powercolour Red Devil)
    16gig of 36000 memory (corsair vengence)
    1TB Samsung Evo Plus and a 4TB spinny disc
    all in a Meshify case.

    Cinebench - 4555
    3d mark Timespy - 9365

    "ultra" on Forza horizon 4, it uses 30% CPU and 60 GPU. I'm monitor restricted though, with only 1080p and 75hz frames.

    It's not much, but its mine. #pcmr

    Edited by brokenkey at 16:27:24 07-05-2020
  • MrWonderstuff 7 May 2020 17:04:59 3,235 posts
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    Solid build there. The 3700x will see you through for a long time.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 7 May 2020 18:03:09 3,889 posts
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    The end of this year with Intel's gen10 and the next set of Ryzen chips should be an interesting look at if it is finally worth upgrading from this 4790K... It is a shame that emulators aren't used on cpu benches though (and understandable), not that I am sure which are the most CPU intensive systems (arcade (3do M2?) or console) these days. I wonder if Intel will try to bring down their mobo chipset prices to be more competitive to AMD too or just ignore that part of the equation... I think my last AMD chip was an XP2700+...

    Edit - many typos...

    Edited by One_Vurfed_Gwrx at 13:21:00 08-05-2020
  • Duffking 8 May 2020 12:43:41 16,582 posts
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    Performance difference with this 3700x in games like BFV is amazing. CoD Warzone too is like another game. Gonna run some more stuff later that is known to be cpu intensive...
  • b-rk 8 May 2020 14:55:57 1,211 posts
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    @brokenkey

    Nice. The Red Devil 5700XT is supposed to be excellent.
  • brokenkey 8 May 2020 17:56:53 10,464 posts
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    b-rk wrote:
    @brokenkey

    Nice. The Red Devil 5700XT is supposed to be excellent.
    The whole thing is so amazingly quiet. I went with the stock cooler (a coolermaster wraith), and the PSU has a zero fan usage profile. Just lovely.
  • uiruki 8 May 2020 19:01:33 5,153 posts
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    Yeah, a zero fan PSU is one change I ended up noticing more than most when working on the desktop. Really worth it - and with modern efficient supplies even when gaming it barely kicks in.
  • Lt_Drebin 10 May 2020 13:05:21 283 posts
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    After some thoughts from the EG hive mind :-) I'm planning to upgrade my trusty FX 6300 and I'm trying to weigh up whether I'd be better going for the Ryzen 5 1600 af while they're still in stock at CCL or a Ryzen 3 3300X. I've been out the upgrade game for a while so all the references to different Zen architectures were a bit lost on me in the DF article. I'll be keeping my RX 470 4gb graphics card for a bit longer as I only game at 1080p anyway. Main concern is being ready for Cyberpunk. Would the 1600 be overkill if I'm not upgrading graphics any time soon?
  • KD 10 May 2020 13:19:04 2,682 posts
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    @Lt_Drebin for price the 1600x I got goes for 90 to 100, just get the newer budget option for same money if possible and benefit from the more modern tech even if its a 2000 series.
  • Lt_Drebin 10 May 2020 14:40:43 283 posts
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    @KD that makes sense, thanks. Takes the pressure off slightly if I'm not worrying about a chip that might suddenly go out of stock. Things have obviously moved on in the last few years. In my head, moving to 4 cores seems like a backwards step, but it sounds like this newer Ryzen 3 chip should obliterate my old CPU even with 2 cores less. Too clever for me to get my head around 😄
  • KD 10 May 2020 16:09:32 2,682 posts
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    @Lt_Drebin I'd think price and get what you can, I'm keeping my eye on this https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/amd-ryzen-5-3600-36ghz-6x-core-processor-with-wraith-stealth-cooler-14421-with-code-at-currysebay-3458261

    The comments for this post may be good reading (or not) https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ryzen-3-3100-9999-3300x-11499-available-to-preorder-from-amazon-3459573
  • Lt_Drebin 11 May 2020 20:18:11 283 posts
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    @KD Just wanted to pop back in and say thanks for the links. They were really helpful - looks like I'd be better holding off for a few months to see if that 3600 drops closer to my price range or, if not, at least look at getting one of the new B550 chipset motherboards so I have an upgrade path in future. Likely saved me from chucking a load of money away on something I'd have been frustrated with so really appreciate it 👍
  • uiruki 19 May 2020 16:32:48 5,153 posts
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    Looks like AMD are working out a solution for Zen 3 on B450/X470 boards on a case-by-case basis. I'd expect the MSI boards to be nailed on for that, seems like for a while that the B450 Tomahawk Max was the only board people were recommending if they didn't want X570.
  • dominalien 19 May 2020 17:21:52 9,536 posts
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    I just got a Ryzen 3700X, should be here tomorrow or Thu. Went for an X570 board from Asrock, though I'm not so keen on them needing chipset fans. I don't use a case with the whole innards exposed on the desk so there's nothing to mute the noise.

    Should be quite an upgrade from my FX-8320E. I didn't get a new gfx card, will see how it all gets on with my 980 Ti.
  • uiruki 19 May 2020 17:52:46 5,153 posts
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    I put the fan on my MSI X570 into 'silent' mode and since then I've not heard it spin up. Suspect it does when everything's going full bore but by then the other fans in the system will do. I can hear it blast when booting up but it soon stops. Hopefully you can set it in the BIOS too.
  • KD 19 May 2020 17:59:14 2,682 posts
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    KD wrote:
    https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/amd-ryzen-4000-zen-3-motherboard-compatibility/

    Looks like the 3000 series is best I can get for a X470 board.
    Today they changed again, AMD's next-gen Zen 3 CPUs will work in 400-series motherboards after all.

    https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/amds-next-gen-zen-3-cpus-will-work-in-400-series-motherboards-after-all/
  • KD 19 May 2020 18:00:33 2,682 posts
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    @uiruki It's typical as I still want a cpu upgrade for my 470
  • dominalien 22 May 2020 12:12:48 9,536 posts
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    All the pieces of my PC upgrade arrived today and it looks like everything is working fine. \o/

    Haven't been able to check fan or memory settings yet, the computer boots straight into the OS without showing me any startup screen, I'll need to read the manual I think.

    The graph with 16 CPU cores in system monitor is pretty insane. I thought it was crowded when I had just 8.

    I'll be putting it through its paces all afternoon today. It's my first Ryzen, I'm very much looking forward to seeing for myself what the performance differences are between the various memory timings and speeds.

    Edited by dominalien at 12:13:44 22-05-2020
  • dominalien 22 May 2020 12:15:14 9,536 posts
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    Oh, and the Ryzen stock cooler is seriously overdone with all the flashing lights and stuff. Very distracting. I got a mobo with no lights, but of course I couldn't resist connecting the RGB cable for the fan. I hope I can turn this down to something pleasant and understated.
  • Blackmarsh63 22 May 2020 13:05:06 3,105 posts
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    @dominalien You have to turn it all off with the software.Leaving the cable off doesn't work to my surprise.

    https://landing.coolermaster.com/pages/amd-ryzen-wraith-prism-rgb-software/

    Edited by Blackmarsh63 at 13:06:53 22-05-2020
  • Dr-Strangelove 22 May 2020 13:25:00 2,280 posts
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    Any one here using a 5700XT for VR? Specifically on the Oculus Quest?

    I'm considering building a gaming PC specifically for VR, don't want to spend up for the next tier (Nvidia 2080s etc) so am looking for some anecdotal advice.

    I've heard it works well, not sure how well for something like Elite Dangerous though so any advice/guidance would be appreciated.
  • KD 22 May 2020 14:20:13 2,682 posts
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    @Dr-Strangelove my 2060 super should be similar and runs fine for most stuff in vr at 150% of a 1440x1440 res per eye at 90 frames.

    DCS and the Spanish stage of dirt rally 2 is main things I turn it down for and that's to 120% res but I think that's cpu more than gpu.

    Not a direct answer I know.
  • dominalien 22 May 2020 14:37:41 9,536 posts
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    Blackmarsh63 wrote:
    @dominalien You have to turn it all off with the software.Leaving the cable off doesn't work to my surprise.

    https://landing.coolermaster.com/pages/amd-ryzen-wraith-prism-rgb-software/
    Oh, wow. I disconnected the cable and my eyes! Turns out the mobo had an rgb profile loaded and it wasn't even so bad compared to the stock AMD one.

    That software is useless to me, but the mobo has some settings in the bios, maybe I can find one there that won't make me kill myself.

    Turns out I wasn't seeing the initial booting screen on the mobo because the Index was connected to the gfx card and I think the card was outputting there (thought ofc it wasn't lighting up) and not to the HDMI. Interesting, that, the previous mobo (same gfx card) wasn't doing that. Maybe if I update the bios it'll go away.
  • Blackmarsh63 22 May 2020 14:56:41 3,105 posts
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    @dominalien There's a setting in my particular bios that says "Led Lighting" but turning that to off disables the HDD light and the power light not the LED lightshow.
  • dominalien 22 May 2020 14:59:54 9,536 posts
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    I'm looking at this right now and it can actually be pretty cool. Stuff like showing CPU load or temp with the leds is at least marginally useful.

    In other news, the cooler is rather loud. It spins up and down constantly and there's a little warble to it all the time. I am annoy.
  • dominalien 22 May 2020 15:29:09 9,536 posts
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    @Blackmarsh63 My mobo has settings related specifically to rgb lighting. It's set to "breathe" and that's exactly what the cooler is doing. I will fiddle with this soonish.
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