Building A Gaming PC - Parts Advice Needed Page 161

  • KnuttinAtoll 13 Jun 2020 17:45:05 8,146 posts
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    @brokenkey I may already have you on my list? Am part of the EG club or whatever it's called (I'm SYS64738UK on Live I think)

    Edited by KnuttinAtoll at 17:45:34 13-06-2020
  • uiruki 13 Jun 2020 17:46:04 5,245 posts
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    Heh, looked at that list and it has the Q500L on it which had some 'good' coverage on Gamers Nexus!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3n80GxU-Zs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYDmcSE9KII

    My last three cases have been versions of the Fractal Design Define and would have suggested the R7 Compact but unfortunately the site says it's 451mm tall without feet.

    Edited by uiruki at 17:47:07 13-06-2020
  • THFourteen 13 Jun 2020 19:34:25 53,824 posts
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    Fake_Blood wrote:
    Basically you want a case where the PSU in not under but next to the mobo, making the case wider. There's bunch here: https://www.technewstoday.com/smallest-atx-cases/
    Ta will take a look. Yeah needs to be atx as I am not buying new innards (yet lol)
  • THFourteen 13 Jun 2020 19:34:46 53,824 posts
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    MrWonderstuff wrote:
    uiruki wrote:
    NZXT H510 is 43cm without the feet?
    44cm. Well mine is.
    Ooh I take a look at that. I like NZXT.

    Not sure I can do it without feet... the psu would be starved for air

    Edited by THFourteen at 20:35:58 13-06-2020
  • MrWonderstuff 13 Jun 2020 21:16:16 3,300 posts
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    If you need me to measure the case let me know. Without feet its 44cm with feet its 46cm. It's a nice case - not as rigid and robust as my old Fractal one but the minmalist aesthetic really appealed. Temps are fine as well. The GPU doesn't really go above 70c and the CPU about the same. Building in it was good overall although I had to temporarily move the top fan to get the m/b power cables through. Cable management was fine as well. I opened up my old gaming rig to add some more RAM and noticed how cluttered it all looked in comparison. Guess that's what 10 years of case and technical development does. It's such a clean build.
  • Fake_Blood 13 Jun 2020 21:55:59 10,442 posts
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    MrWonderstuff wrote:
    uiruki wrote:
    NZXT H510 is 43cm without the feet?
    44cm. Well mine is.
    Innuendo-bot is really not paying attention today.
  • MrWonderstuff 14 Jun 2020 22:07:12 3,300 posts
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    Fake_Blood wrote:
    MrWonderstuff wrote:
    uiruki wrote:
    NZXT H510 is 43cm without the feet?
    44cm. Well mine is.
    Innuendo-bot is really not paying attention today.
    :-)
  • Wavey 17 Jun 2020 18:24:01 1,019 posts
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    Could some of you fine people cast your eyes over this and let me know if its a good deal? I put the parts into pc part picker and it comes out more expensive than this. Wondering if there was a catch. https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-p300-air-ryzen-3600-six-core-4.2ghz-asus-b550-radeon-5700xt-8gb-pc.html
  • captbirdseye 17 Jun 2020 19:08:12 9,639 posts
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    Isn't AWD a bit shit? I'm sure I've seen some pretty bad customer experiences.
  • MadCaddy13 17 Jun 2020 20:59:36 3,116 posts
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    Not much storage in that set up, when you make it a 512gb SSD with a 1TB HHD it takes it up to £870
  • Velocityraptor 17 Jun 2020 21:02:56 29 posts
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    Out of curiousity, I built a PC about 4/5 years ago now, was just wondering if I were to upgrade it for VR (HL: Alyx to be precise) what would I start with?

    CPU i5 6600k
    RX480 8GB
    16GB RAM (pretty quick, but can't remember the details)

    Flip flopping between upgrading the rig or buying a PS5 in 6-12 months time.
  • Fake_Blood 17 Jun 2020 21:31:28 10,442 posts
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    Iíd get a second hand i7 processor for that motherboard so you double up on threads, and a second hand gpu. If you can wait a bit longer nvidia is going to update itís gpus so you should be able to find something like a 2060 or 2070 for a reasonable price. Thing is, thereís no point in upgrading the gpu with that i5, so you basically have to update both.
    But an i7 with a good gpu on the motherboard and memory you have should play hl:Alyx fine, so you donít necessarily need to start from scratch.
  • Velocityraptor 17 Jun 2020 21:55:53 29 posts
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    Cool. Thanks. Will hold out for next gpu releases!
  • brokenkey 17 Jun 2020 22:58:41 10,517 posts
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    captbirdseye wrote:
    Isn't AWD a bit shit? I'm sure I've seen some pretty bad customer experiences.
    I bought half of my pc from them, it was a fine experience.
  • sherpa1984 18 Jun 2020 10:03:07 847 posts
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    Velocityraptor wrote:
    Out of curiousity, I built a PC about 4/5 years ago now, was just wondering if I were to upgrade it for VR (HL: Alyx to be precise) what would I start with?

    CPU i5 6600k
    RX480 8GB
    16GB RAM (pretty quick, but can't remember the details)

    Flip flopping between upgrading the rig or buying a PS5 in 6-12 months time.
    FYI my specs are:

    6600k @ 4.4GHz
    1080Ti
    16GB RAM

    And I ran Alyx fine on a Rift-S.

    CPUs are in a weird place... you look at the specs and our 6600k is woefully out of date but I have yet to see it tank a gameís performance. Yes itís my bottleneck but RDR2 is fine, Valorant is 300fps+, VR is fine.

    Given that a 6600k upgrade requires a new motherboard Iíd be tempted to see get a new graphics card.
  • gooner77 18 Jun 2020 11:12:12 1,491 posts
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    What's the best way to check that a motherboard you selected is the right size for your case. ?

    I have a list on pcpartpicker that states no incompatibility issues but am unsure if it covers motherboard to case dimensions.

    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/t4pYZf

    I am brand new to PC building but am keen to start.
  • Spectral 18 Jun 2020 12:34:30 6,385 posts
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    @gooner77 It goes by the form factor of the board. ATX,M-ATX,ITX,etc. In your list both the case and motherboard are ATX so will be fine. Generally speaking unless the case is a small one most will fit. I'm also pretty sure PCpartpicker does include case/motherboard combo's in its incompatibility detection. But you did the right thing, always best to check.

    I wouldn't get that CPU cooler you have selected, especially at that silly price. I'd look at something like the Noctua D15. Depending on what you'll be using the system for 32GB might be overkill, however prices on RAM are pretty good atm so not a bad time to be getting some in case it becomes useful later. The motherboard you have picked supports pcie gen4 but the SSD you picked is gen3. It'll work but might be worth looking at the gen4 drives, there not that much more. Another alternative if you don't really care about that and don't plan to do a heavy overclock is to look at the newer cheaper B550 motherboards. They're pcie gen 3 and probably wont be able to push an OC quite as far but are significantly cheaper than X570.

    Edited by Spectral at 12:53:11 18-06-2020
  • gamecat 18 Jun 2020 12:36:53 982 posts
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    WTF is that cooler? Price can't be right surely? Edit, oh its some Amazon link. Doesn't look much different from stock you get with the cpu.

    Edited by gamecat at 12:40:33 18-06-2020
  • dominalien 18 Jun 2020 12:48:38 9,652 posts
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    This CPU comes with an OK cooler, you donít need another. A good cooler is around 20, the almost 200 pounds for a cooler is nonsensical.
  • Spectral 18 Jun 2020 12:54:04 6,385 posts
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    @dominalien The main problem with most stock coolers is they sound like a jet engine under load. You'd be hard pressed to get something worth the upgrade for £20 though imo. Even the ye olde value king 212 evo is £30 and that doesn't really cut it these days. Getting one of those instead of a Noctua is one of my biggest regrets from when I built this PC back in 2016.

    Edited by Spectral at 13:00:04 18-06-2020
  • gamecat 18 Jun 2020 13:24:29 982 posts
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    Something like a Noctua NH-U12S is about 50, definately worth it on a 2 grand PC.
  • dominalien 18 Jun 2020 13:31:59 9,652 posts
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    You can always get a new cooler. The wraiths are ok, youíre getting it with the cpu. Just use it and replace it if you decide itís not good enough.
  • brokenkey 18 Jun 2020 13:37:40 10,517 posts
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    Spectral wrote:
    @dominalien The main problem with most stock coolers is they sound like a jet engine under load. You'd be hard pressed to get something worth the upgrade for £20 though imo. Even the ye olde value king 212 evo is £30 and that doesn't really cut it these days. Getting one of those instead of a Noctua is one of my biggest regrets from when I built this PC back in 2016.
    I've got the 3700x and the stock cooler and find its very quiet, even under load.
  • Spectral 18 Jun 2020 13:49:50 6,385 posts
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    brokenkey wrote:
    Spectral wrote:
    @dominalien The main problem with most stock coolers is they sound like a jet engine under load. You'd be hard pressed to get something worth the upgrade for £20 though imo. Even the ye olde value king 212 evo is £30 and that doesn't really cut it these days. Getting one of those instead of a Noctua is one of my biggest regrets from when I built this PC back in 2016.
    I've got the 3700x and the stock cooler and find its very quiet, even under load.
    Sounds like they're better these days then. Last experience with one is my grans 2400G based PC and that thing isn't quiet. Although I am particularly sensitive to fan noise. Had enough bad experiences with stock coolers in the past though that I just started avoiding them completely.
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 20 Jun 2020 14:03:03 8,991 posts
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    Considering a PSU upgrade ahead of Ampere. What do we think of: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CP-9020084-UK-RM1000i-Modular-Supply/dp/B00YPQLRNO/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1L220C4UZVO4F&dchild=1&keywords=corsair+1000w+power+supply&qid=1592658082&sprefix=corsair+1000w+%2Caps%2C156&sr=8-1

    Seems a straightforward upgrade of the RM750i I've already got, which I'd hope would keep the upgrade simple (no need to swap cables, I hope?). Thoughts?
  • captbirdseye 20 Jun 2020 14:15:25 9,639 posts
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    Isn't that a bit overkill? 750 to 850 watt will be more than enough for the incoming cards.
  • Fake_Blood 20 Jun 2020 14:18:25 10,442 posts
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    The specs of the new nvidia cards leaked.
    They are dropping the TI name, so the next cards are going to be the rtx3080 and 3090, and a Titan variant. The 3080 apparently has as many cores as the current 2080TI, but will run at higher clocks, so if they can offer that at the same level of price as the current 2080 thatíd be nice jump in performance/£.
  • Fake_Blood 20 Jun 2020 14:29:26 10,442 posts
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    More here: https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/nvidia_rtx_3090_rtx_3080_and_rtx_titan_specifications_leaked_-_gddr6x/1
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 20 Jun 2020 14:39:55 8,991 posts
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    captbirdseye wrote:
    Isn't that a bit overkill? 750 to 850 watt will be more than enough for the incoming cards.
    I'd love to believe that, but 350W for the 3090 and 320W for the 3080Ti. I might, just might, be ok with the 380Ti, but having run various power-utilisation calculators, I don't think the 3090 is possible. Now, if the 3090 is basically a Titan, I'm happy to skip that, provided the 3080 Ti offers decent performance boosts over the current-gen cards.

    Edit: Ok, Fake_Blood's link is more up to date.

    Edited by Rogueywon at 14:41:02 20-06-2020
  • MrWonderstuff 20 Jun 2020 14:48:07 3,300 posts
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    gamecat wrote:
    Something like a Noctua NH-U12S is about 50, definately worth it on a 2 grand PC.
    I'm running one of those with my 3600 - seems fine. Temps on Ryzen are always on the warm side though so not sure how effective a different cooler would be.
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