Building A Gaming PC - Parts Advice Needed Page 225

  • uiruki 18 Feb 2021 23:04:25 5,667 posts
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    If you're not going to be putting a console through it a lot of the time I'd always go for a 1440 ultrawide over 4K. It's easier to drive, more useful in more situations and ultrawide FOVs are great when you're playing in a typical 'lean forward' PC style. Even when it's 'not working' you still get a great picture.
  • Gregolution 19 Feb 2021 09:31:28 10,848 posts
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    uiruki wrote:
    If you're not going to be putting a console through it a lot of the time I'd always go for a 1440 ultrawide over 4K. It's easier to drive, more useful in more situations and ultrawide FOVs are great when you're playing in a typical 'lean forward' PC style. Even when it's 'not working' you still get a great picture.
    yeah, this is the conclusion I've come to. Birthday next month... Asus incoming. Seems to be the best monitor on the market - just stupid expensive. But YOLO.

    I've got my console hooked up to the big screen in living room, will never be connected to monitor.
  • THFourteen 19 Feb 2021 10:49:32 53,952 posts
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    @Gregolution

    Kinda the same conclusion I came to when I got my G9. Endless working from home so staring at it 12 hours a day 4 days a week.

    And all this endless covid shit makes you feel even more YOLO than usual.

    I do really like it btw, not just saying that as a way of trying to justify my purchase. The HDR is a bit crap but otherwise itís amazing. Even functional things like the picture by picture and Picture in Picture modes work brilliantly.
  • Tomo 19 Feb 2021 11:22:09 18,984 posts
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    uiruki wrote:
    If you're not going to be putting a console through it a lot of the time I'd always go for a 1440 ultrawide over 4K. It's easier to drive, more useful in more situations and ultrawide FOVs are great when you're playing in a typical 'lean forward' PC style. Even when it's 'not working' you still get a great picture.
    Also +1 this
  • muddyyfunster 19 Feb 2021 11:35:25 911 posts
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    What are people's thoughts on the best value monitors? From what I've read it sounds like you can't get good HDR unless you spend >£500 (and bad HDR is worse than no HDR imo) and >144Hz is somewhat unnecessary unless you are an esportist.

    If I just want great SDR image quality for less than £300 is there a go-to monitor or is it much of a muchness? 1080p or 1440p are both up for consideration.

    Will be used for sim racing and catching up on the various PC exclusives (particularly management games and indies) that I've missed in the past 10 years.

    At present my thinking is to get an AOC 27G2U as it feels like it might be sensible to get one 27" now and then if I really get into sim racing add two more later. However, it's only 1080p and I can also see the logic in paying a bit more for a 1440p ultrawide and committing to single screen. Decisions to decisions!

    Edited by muddyyfunster at 11:35:59 19-02-2021
  • Carlo 19 Feb 2021 11:49:47 21,600 posts
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    @muddyyfunster I've been looking too. In my home office I curently run an ultrawide-based (1440 res) set that's fine for my needs which was office work, and a PS4 Pro.

    Now I also have a PS5 and XSX up there too, I've been looking at potentially moving to a 2-screen 4k-based set up so I can play in evenings/weekends at higher resolutions.

    Not sure just yet if getting 120hz HDMI 2.1 is going to be worth it, as I don't see a lot of games running that now, or in the future.

    Most likely I'll go for a 'good' 60hz-based 4k setup, possibly with good HDR, as I think this will be the main target for these consoles in terms of releases.
  • muddyyfunster 19 Feb 2021 12:05:18 911 posts
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    @Carlo Personally, I'd go for great HDR and colours over resolution and refresh rate (min 60Hz obv) for most gaming.

    I really think it's what makes the most impact (although I do work in the broadcast service industry so I'm probably more picky than most).

    I've just accepted that I can't afford a PC monitor with amazing HDR for the time being. HDR gaming will have to remain a PS5 thing via my TV until prices come down a bit.

    If I was buying a TV/monitor for console gaming now I would certainly try and get one with HDMI 2.1 as a minimum. I believe the XBX already supports variable refresh rates and PS5 will likely add them via a firmware update. It's already pretty obvious that 60fps with RT will be a stretch for the new-gen so if your TV can do uncapped without tearing it'll likely be a significant benefit. I expect more developers to make it an in game option in the next few years.

    Edited by muddyyfunster at 14:33:44 19-02-2021
  • Gregolution 19 Feb 2021 12:05:34 10,848 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    @Gregolution

    Kinda the same conclusion I came to when I got my G9. Endless working from home so staring at it 12 hours a day 4 days a week.

    And all this endless covid shit makes you feel even more YOLO than usual.

    I do really like it btw, not just saying that as a way of trying to justify my purchase. The HDR is a bit crap but otherwise itís amazing. Even functional things like the picture by picture and Picture in Picture modes work brilliantly.
    4 day weeks! nice :) And agreed on covid yolo and wfh.

    I guess the Asus HDR is quite a bit better than that G9?
  • uiruki 19 Feb 2021 12:19:38 5,667 posts
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    Yeah, the G9 only has 10 dimming zones (ie edge lit) compared to the Asus's 512 (which are on a grid). That means less blooming around very high contrast areas, and in the Samsung's case that would extend from the very top to the bottom of the display while on the Asus it would be more of a square.

    The G9 is pretty decent value when you consider it's basically two monitors in one though!

    Edited by uiruki at 12:21:04 19-02-2021
  • Gregolution 19 Feb 2021 12:31:55 10,848 posts
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    oh shit, I just saw the G9 is 49 inch!? Bloody nora
  • KD 19 Feb 2021 13:12:04 3,251 posts
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    @muddyyfunster I'll bump the iracing thread soon with my setup, just need to finish a few things.

    I tried a freesync monitor on my Xbox and it works fine, not a series console but it stops the tearing. I dont want to see the price of hdmi 2.1 monitors, last I heard something was announced at CES.
  • uiruki 19 Feb 2021 13:17:38 5,667 posts
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    The LG 32" one that was talked about earlier really could go either way. And yeah, Xbox One supports VRR over HDMI 2.0 which is a really nice feature. It outputs 2560x1440 as well, no extra scaling.
  • THFourteen 19 Feb 2021 13:26:04 53,952 posts
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    Gregolution wrote:
    oh shit, I just saw the G9 is 49 inch!? Bloody nora
    Not all games are geared up for it, but for example on destiny 2 the HUD is central which means you never have to turn your head to see your ammo etc but the sides of the screen give you lovely peripheral immersiveness.

    Plus you can run a PiP window with football or YouTube or whatever without interfering with gameplay like on a 4k screen.
  • Gregolution 19 Feb 2021 13:36:12 10,848 posts
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    @THFourteen

    stop it... football in a PiP while gaming? shit the bed.... and it's half the price of the Asus.
  • Gregolution 19 Feb 2021 13:44:47 10,848 posts
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    seems to be a fair number of faults reported on that screen though. It's never easy is it...
  • Fake_Blood 19 Feb 2021 14:02:20 10,812 posts
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    Buying hardware sucks these days, if you finally find something that ticks all the boxes it will be out of stock.
  • crashVoodoo 19 Feb 2021 14:20:56 7,069 posts
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    Gregolution wrote:
    seems to be a fair number of faults reported on that screen though. It's never easy is it...
    That what's Amazon returns are for.
    I currently have 2 1440p side by side so I know the G9 would fit and look great mounted on my desk. I just need to understand how much longer I'll be WFH to decide if I want to improve my display setup for WFH or just gaming
  • muddyyfunster 19 Feb 2021 14:36:59 911 posts
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    @KD That would be useful.

    I just realised I wasn't clear before, so my comments regarding HDMI 2.1 TVs were in reply to Carlo. I agree that hdmi 2.1 is not especially needed for a PC monitor because display port is sufficiently high bandwidth and supports Gsync/Freesync VRR. For games console TVs I think it's a must, assuming you want to get a console generation's use from it.

    Edited by muddyyfunster at 14:39:23 19-02-2021
  • Gregolution 19 Feb 2021 15:51:00 10,848 posts
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    @crashVoodoo and what will you decide if you're leaning more towards just gaming?
  • crashVoodoo 19 Feb 2021 16:11:37 7,069 posts
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    @Gregolution Asus.

    Although I must admit a lot of this depends how quick I find a new role once mine ends but getting a lump sum and my desire to consolidate my monitor collection to 1 feckin' good'un are about to clash spectacularly

    Edited by crashVoodoo at 16:13:12 19-02-2021
  • Gregolution 19 Feb 2021 16:50:02 10,848 posts
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    the 35 mega 2200 quid one? or the new 4k one?
  • crashVoodoo 19 Feb 2021 16:59:18 7,069 posts
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    Oh, the stupid 35 UW of course. It was like 1700 a couple of weeks ago. It's suddenly spiked back up.

    https://pricespy.co.uk/computers-accessories/monitors/asus-rog-swift-pg35vq--p4542526/statistics

    Edited by crashVoodoo at 17:01:36 19-02-2021
  • Gregolution 19 Feb 2021 17:00:08 10,848 posts
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    crashVoodoo wrote:
    Oh, the stupid 35 UW of course. It was like 1700 a couple of weeks ago. It's suddenly spiked back up.
    I think i'd snap it up for 1700. fk it. It looks like the holy grail gaming monitor.

    Although it doesn't have Display Port 2.0
  • crashVoodoo 19 Feb 2021 17:09:00 7,069 posts
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    I think it was released around the same time that the spec was ratified so it missed the boat.

    It's probably due a refresh
  • Gregolution 19 Feb 2021 17:09:46 10,848 posts
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    crashVoodoo wrote:


    It's probably due a refresh
    nooooooooooooo. More waiting. I'm bored of waiting
  • crashVoodoo 19 Feb 2021 17:21:08 7,069 posts
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    It's not going to get any less good. The spec is there to drive the hardware as is. What do you need DP2.0 for?
  • Gregolution 20 Feb 2021 15:23:03 10,848 posts
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    I think I'm down to finally either the Asus or the x35 predator. Same panel very similar. The fact the Asus has over 500 local dimming zones means the blacks could rival Oled (which is all uses currently outside of pc) and has a dedicated headphone DAC built in might push me towards that model.

    A sale knocking it back to 1700 would make the decision alot easier
  • crashVoodoo 20 Feb 2021 16:10:33 7,069 posts
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    That sale will happen ... after you've purchased it
  • Gregolution 20 Feb 2021 16:16:47 10,848 posts
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    Apparently the blacks are better on the Asus - why? X35 and it have exactly the same features right? Same number of local dimming zones.

    https://uk.pcmag.com/monitors/125431/asus-rog-swift-pg35vq

    Thought the only difference is built in dac?

    X35 is 1800 currently.... Could grab it and buy my own DAC.

    Edited by Gregolution at 17:54:09 20-02-2021
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