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Khanivor 12 Jan 2005 14:30:52 44,800 posts
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/wonders how different the world we be if we were all blind

Ginger 12 Jan 2005 14:34:32 7,256 posts
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Khanivor wrote:
/wonders how different the world we be if we were all blind

Full of crashed cars

MikeD 12 Jan 2005 14:37:02 10,063 posts
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Are ipods really that popular at schools? I don't see any kids with them while bicycling towards the train station. Nor have I met any students at my university with them. (though stduentsa re poor, so that might be understandable).

UncleLou Moderator 12 Jan 2005 14:38:12 40,723 posts
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Khanivor wrote:
/wonders how different the world we be if we were all blind

/points at the rather excellent novel "Blindness" by José Saramago

MikeD 12 Jan 2005 14:41:14 10,063 posts
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rhythm wrote:
I'm still reeling at the fact that anyone would even consider giving one to their kid!

Well, things have changed a lot since I was young (which is only 10 years ago or so). If I see the presents that get bought at just christmas, it's more expensive than I would get at my birthday.

Maybe me and all my friends were just poor, but I don't think so, honestly.

Gurgy 12 Jan 2005 14:41:57 2,924 posts
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I bought my daughter an iPod Mini, and she is in sixth form at school.

Is there something wrong with that ?

MikeD 12 Jan 2005 14:42:49 10,063 posts
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ReGuRgIt8oR wrote:
I bought my daughter an iPod Mini, and she is in sixth form at school.

Could you give an age estimate with that, because it tell me nothing, not being english.

ssuellid 12 Jan 2005 14:43:49 19,142 posts
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16,17,18 to be in sixth form. Gurgy is going to be even more popular on the forum.

Ginger 12 Jan 2005 14:44:39 7,256 posts
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UncleLou wrote:

Khanivor wrote:
/wonders how different the world we be if we were all blind

/points at the rather excellent novel "Blindness" by José Saramago

/fumbles around the library trying to identify the right book

OT, anybody read great apes by Will Self? That's a really great book about how the world would be if we were all apes of one kind or another.

Ginger 12 Jan 2005 14:45:13 7,256 posts
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Deleted user 12 January 2005 14:48:18

Rythm/MikeD.

Replace ipod with gameboy/mobile phone/[current trend].

You see how many 'kids' have mobiles right? You recall how many kids had gameboys?

MP3 players are the 'latest playground craze'. iPods are the 'must haves'... And it's not just kids... On my 'Tube run' a good 10% or more people are listening to 'something' (earphones), over half of those (although Apple says it's got 65% market share) are those tale tales 'white earbuds'.

Now that a pod costs

Gurgy 12 Jan 2005 14:48:40 2,924 posts
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ssuellid wrote:
16,17,18 to be in sixth form. Gurgy is going to be even more popular on the forum.

She's coming up to 17.

Why will I be even more popular ?

(Like I was popular to start with !)

ssuellid 12 Jan 2005 14:53:30 19,142 posts
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By letting the forum know that you have a young lady at home. Judging by the crop of perverts and deviants on the forum.

Deleted user 12 January 2005 14:56:02

rhythm wrote:

Djini wrote:
A lot about how he can't say no

Look - you're talking to someone who starts seething when he sees people wearing trainers and tracksuits as fashion items. Any kid of mine's going to know full well not to broach the subject of brands on top of that

Ooo... Sounds like a cheerfull time in your house! I bet you'll make them eat their veg (at gunpoint if nessesary).

Djini wrote:
A lot about how he can't say no

I just mean, if it *can* be 'yes' sometimes, let them get spoilt sometimes.

Gurgy 12 Jan 2005 14:59:46 2,924 posts
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Ok ssuellid, I get your drift.

/sets phaser to "kill"/

ssuellid 12 Jan 2005 15:03:12 19,142 posts
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ReGuRgIt8oR wrote:
/sets phaser to "kill"/

lol,

I did not specifically mean Razz.

Nemesis 12 Jan 2005 15:08:56 20,312 posts
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You know, maybe the layman does know about RAM and suchlike. How? They keep 'phoning us lot. The number of calls I've received from friends and family....well, lots. 'What machine, what hardware, what specs, will it do......I keep getting lots of pr0n popups. My homepage is set to something suspect and the wife's back soon.'

You get the idea. Now, I'm of a mind (as I do) to tell them to go get a Mac and to leave me the fuck alone.

My Mum is well pleased with the iMac she purchased from me. Then she goes and buys herself a dog-slow Tosh lappie 'cos she wanted one'. How do I know this? I walked through the door, sat down, and it was placed on my lap. No cup of tea, nothing. Stop it running slow! Hmmmmmmm. She'd only had it 2 days. Whereas she's used the iMac every day for months and I've only received one call on setting up broadband.

Edited by Nemesis at 15:09:09 12-01-2005

Nemesis 12 Jan 2005 15:09:14 20,312 posts
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rhythm wrote:

Djini wrote:
I just mean, if it *can* be 'yes' sometimes, let them get spoilt sometimes.

Fuck that! Get em slapped and get em to work!

j/k

I do believe in the concept of "spoiling" but I also believe that a £200 music player is a little too much to "spoil" a kid with.

these new Ipods are £70 IIRC...

Go on 'Dad'... Buy them one... ;P

MikeD 12 Jan 2005 15:12:53 10,063 posts
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Djini wrote:
Rythm/MikeD.

Replace ipod with gameboy/mobile phone/[current trend].

You see how many 'kids' have mobiles right? You recall how many kids had gameboys?

None in my youth :-)

. My nephews father had one, which he bought for tetris. But he bought him a master system/snes.

I didn't say things are bad now btw, I just feel like they have slightly changed.

And I don't count mobile phones, as they are often useful. Unless the parents are taking the bills as well for phone calls, but most kids I know got prepaid ones and got a card once in a while and paying for the other costs themselves. (or a subscription with so many minutes a month, you get the drift)

Deleted user 12 January 2005 15:19:56

rhythm wrote:

Djini wrote:
these new Ipods are £70 IIRC...

Go on 'Dad'... Buy them one... ;P

Point 1: they're not really iPods, are they?

Point 2: If I thought my kid deserved an MP3 player, they could have my hand me down Muvo - it cost me £13. There's no fecking way I'd spend more on the kid's items than I do on myself

I'm gonna save this thread and show it to any girlfriend of yours that gets serious with you and starts thinking about marrige/children...

/isn't really.

Besides... MP3 players are *so* 2004... Mobile phones that store 4 hours of film is going to be 2005's 'must have'

Gurgy 12 Jan 2005 15:21:51 2,924 posts
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rhythm wrote:
There's no fecking way I'd spend more on the kid's items than I do on myself

I bought myself a 40gig one at the same time so is that better ?

Soumis 12 Jan 2005 15:29:30 216 posts
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Hyoushi wrote:
AAC is the encoder. It creates m4a files. MP4.

which has Digital Media Rights. In other words, they are locked.

deem 12 Jan 2005 15:30:28 31,667 posts
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Soumis 12 Jan 2005 15:35:24 216 posts
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deem wrote:
locked to what?

the aac files are protected. You cannot distribute an AAC file in that same way that you distribute an mp3. It won't play on another computer.

eviltobz 12 Jan 2005 15:37:35 2,609 posts
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not entirely correct, aac can have drm on it, and the stuff you buy from apple's itunes store does, but the aacs i rip of my own cds, or, you know, happen to find lying around online here and there, don't have any drm on them.

Soumis 12 Jan 2005 16:10:32 216 posts
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I stand corrected!

sam_spade 12 Jan 2005 16:17:50 15,745 posts
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And you can beat the DRM by burning it onto CD. And then importing it again.

eviltobz 12 Jan 2005 16:40:28 2,609 posts
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or with a bit of software that manages to hack it out as i understand, can't remember what it's called, and apple clamped down on the distributors asap, but it got out and is on some p2p stuff. this technique will avoid the quality loss and hassle involved in burning and re-importing.

Pirotic Moderator 12 Jan 2005 18:37:05 20,644 posts
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It all looks very nice and fancy, and my first thought was "i want one!" - but once you think about it, both the mini mac and the ipod shuffle are totally fucking useless.

Why would PC owners want to buy something which isnt going to run the software/games they have, and isnt going to work very well alongside a windows PC. a budget Windows machine is cheaper and more practical.

if the mini mac was £100 cheaper, and the shuffle was £30 cheaper - i'd probably be sold

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