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ronuds 21,781 posts
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oceanmotion 17,358 posts
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Registered 18 years agoDon't know what her character is suppose to be like in comics but it was empty on screen.
Probably thinking, I fucked the director, I'm pregnant, what to do. Meanwhile the director realising his cheating but awesome mistake ignored her as much as possible, giving little direction and just wants it over with.
Film was rushed, Irish Magneto, woeful mutants, awful ending battle and terrible end, shit film for the most part. -
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Some stuff about teaser footage, too. No leaks of it, though. -
spamdangled 31,803 posts
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Registered 13 years agoPasting this from what I wrote in the Comics thread yesterday, as it seems a better fit here:
I see that Fox are following up X-Men: Days of Future Past with an X-Force movie. Could be interesting, depending on the line-up. Cable is probably out given the film continuity (unless they substantially alter him), so the closest bet is possibly Bishop, who's one of the main characters in DOFP. They've said there's going to be five team members, which is about right. I'm guessing there will be a blend of original (90s Liefeld) and modern (Rick Remender) members there, with at least one well-established name from the existing franchise to give it Box Office draw. My bets are on Bishop, Wolverine, Cannonball, Psylocke and Domino.
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spamdangled 31,803 posts
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Registered 13 years agomeme wrote:
What slightly concerned me about that Comic-Con Sentinel head was how small it was. I really hope it wasn't to scale, otherwise it seems that the Sentinels will just be slightly larger humanoid robots rather than the multi-storey behemoths they're supposed to be. Unless they're going for a hybrid of classic Sentinels and Prime Sentinels, which could work but would sort of require having Bastion as a main antagonist, and I don't see that working well without a lot of build-up over multiple films or a significant amount of "reinterpreting" the character.
Some stuff about teaser footage, too. No leaks of it, though.
I also wonder whether the new film addresses the fact that Sentinels seemingly already exist or are known about in the original film trilogy (given the Danger Room sequence at the start of Last Stand), or whether that can be explained by the time-travel aspect of DOFP. But then, paradoxes... -
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Registered 13 years agoProfessorLesser wrote:
Yeah he was. Rick-Remender era, when the team was black-ops assassination unit sanctioned by Cyclops and led by Wolverine (lineup was Wolverine, Psylocke, Deadpool, Fantomex and Archangel). He was associated with X-Force from the start though, as he was introduced as an antagonist for the team during the original Liefeld era (as a blatant Deathstroke clone-character) in the 90s.
Wasn't Deadpool in X-Force for a while, or am I getting confused?
I doubt they will include him in the film though, as they seem to have (quite rightly) decided to completely forget that Wolverine: Origins ever happened, and about the worst thing they could do is to resurrect the joke of THAT interpretation of him.
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As far as I know Singer's basically decided to ignore The Last Stand. Hence why Xavier is actually Xavier and not some random body he decided to possess and how Cyclops is back (supposedly). About the only thing they're taking from it is Ellen Page. -
spamdangled 31,803 posts
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Registered 13 years agomeme wrote:
I heard something about that. He sees DOFP as "his" X-Men 3, rather than the X-Men 3 we actually got.
As far as I know Singer's basically decided to ignore The Last Stand. Hence why Xavier is actually Xavier and not some random body he decided to possess and how Cyclops is back (supposedly). About the only thing they're taking from it is Ellen Page.
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Sorry for my ignorance but I haven't really been following this despite actually quite enjoying First Class.
Is Singer directing then? Although I was a massive fan of Xmen back in my youth and I'm familiar with the title, what actually happened?
The story that most sticks out in my memory is the one where Apocalypse actually teams up with the Xmen against Stryfe, who was Cyclops and Jean Grey's son that wasn't Cable.
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spamdangled 31,803 posts
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Registered 13 years agoJiveHound wrote:
Hmmm, sort of. You're talking about the X-Cutioner's Song crossover (Stryfe impersonates Cable and attempt to assassinate Xavier).
Sorry for my ignorance but I haven't really been following this despite actually quite enjoying First Class.
Is Singer directing then? Although I was a massive fan of Xmen back in my youth and I'm familiar with the title, what actually happened?
The story that most sticks out in my memory is the one where Apocalypse actually teams up with the Xmen against Stryfe, who was Cyclops and Jean Grey's son that wasn't Cable.
Did I get that right?
Stryfe was a clone of Cable created by Apocalypse due to his power and suitability as a host body. It gets a bit confusing from there because, you know, time travel (ever noticed how Cable is actually older than his father?) and also ties into stuff like the Legacy Virus (X-Cutioner's song is where that started), Mr Sinister, the long-dangled idea of the "genetic potential" of the offspring of Jean Grey and Scott Summers, the Third Summers brother (another plotline started in that event), and about 5 or 6 different teams of X-men. Marvel events in the 90s are heavily geared towards trying to tie up danglers that had been left for years (which became a bit counter-productive considering so many of them created even more danglers). It's one of the reasons that the company had a crisis in the early noughties, as it became so insular and reliant on understanding continuity. Unfortunately, it's also happening now with Bendis in charge. History is repeating itself.
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nickthegun 87,711 posts
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Registered 16 years agomeme wrote:
Without doing that they wouldnt be able to use cable in the xforce since they killed his dad off in last stand.
As far as I know Singer's basically decided to ignore The Last Stand. Hence why Xavier is actually Xavier and not some random body he decided to possess and how Cyclops is back (supposedly). About the only thing they're taking from it is Ellen Page.
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spamdangled 31,803 posts
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Registered 13 years agonickthegun wrote:
It's not necessarily stupid, it just relies very, very heavily on an understanding of how the Marvel Universe deals with timelines, time-travel, etc. To have a proper understanding of that requires a LOT of explanation that would require several big-screen films and significant foreshadowing to make an audience familiar with it, but even then it would make the film franchises impenetrable for the casual popcorn viewer that makes up most of the ticket returns. It's why I think it's incredibly unlikely that they will even use Cable. I think it's pretty much inevitable that they will use the introduction of Bishop in DOFP as a proxy character to set up the big-screen incarnation of X-Force, as that immediately frees them from having to work out how to explain the whole Cable-is-the-son-of-cyclops-and-jean-grey-but-only-sort-of-and-by-the-way-he-is-older-than-his-father-and-comes-from-an-alternate-possible-future-in-5,000-years-time-and-by-the-way-he-is-the-chosen-one-to-defeat-apocalypse-or-is-he? thing. The only way to avoid that is by significantly altering the character and his backstory, and Wolverine: Origin's handling of Deadpool is a stark reminder of what happened the last time they tried that.
meme wrote:
Without doing that they wouldnt be able to use cable in the xforce since they killed his dad off in last stand.
As far as I know Singer's basically decided to ignore The Last Stand. Hence why Xavier is actually Xavier and not some random body he decided to possess and how Cyclops is back (supposedly). About the only thing they're taking from it is Ellen Page.
Having said that, his genesis is so unbelievably convoluted and stupid, his proper origin story would be virtually impossible to tell anyway.
I'm a bit wary of the films starting to delve into the whole time-travel, alternate-reality storylines, because that's where a hell of a lot of the convolution in X-Men continuity comes from in the first place.
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darkmorgado wrote:
Isn't it pretty much "fuck it, do whatever we feel like at the time"? As opposed to DC's "fuck it, retcon everything and start again", I guess.
it just relies very, very heavily on an understanding of how the Marvel Universe deals with timelines, time-travel, etc -
spamdangled 31,803 posts
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Registered 13 years agomeme wrote:
Not quite. In the MU, any divergence in the timestream creates a new alternate reality rather than creating a paradox. It's all a bit quantum leap-esque. That's why DOFP exists as a separate timeline where Senator Kelly was assassinated, but a paradox wasn't caused by those events being prevented through time-travel intervention. It's a slightly tidier way of dealing with time-travel than the DC method, which was born more as a way to explain away the huge discrepancies between the powersets and personalities of the gold/silver/bronze age versions of their characters.
darkmorgado wrote:
Isn't it pretty much "fuck it, do whatever we feel like at the time"? As opposed to DC's "fuck it, retcon everything and start again", I guess.
it just relies very, very heavily on an understanding of how the Marvel Universe deals with timelines, time-travel, etc
But then you probably already knew that.gif)
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nickthegun 87,711 posts
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Registered 16 years agoExplain Cables origin story to someone who doesnt read comics. Note the incredulous look on their faces. Its stupid.
You have 'Bitten by a radioactive spider', 'Parents killed by robber', 'Super soldier experiment' and then 'child of a clone of jean gray (another long story) and cyclops is infected with a virus by some immortal mutant with an A on his belt buckle, sent into the future to get cured, isnt quite cured but is raised by a cult, lives his life as a soldier and then eventually travels back in time for no real reason and starts up a paramilatary group of disaffected mutants, again, for no discernable reason'.
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"World's Angriest Canadian gets electroplated." -
"Retired War Vet has very bad picnic experience."
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nickthegun wrote:
They're all as stupid as each other. The reason Cable's history is more complex is because the character was created in an era of comics where Superhero origins weren't so simplistic. I'm not saying that one is fundamentally better than the other, just that as the medium matured in the nearly 30 years between the creation of Spider-Man and Cable it moved away from the habit of Origin stories that are incredibly simplistic to the point of absurdity because the medium has largely grown up with its audience (though it certainly over-compensated in many areas - just look at Wolverine's backstory).
Explain Cables origin story to someone who doesnt read comics. Note the incredulous look on their faces. Its stupid.
You have 'Bitten by a radioactive spider', 'Parents killed by robber', 'Super soldier experiment' and then 'child of a clone of jean gray (another long story) and cyclops is infected with a virus by some immortal mutant with an A on his belt buckle, sent into the future to get cured, isnt quite cured but is raised by a cult, lives his life as a soldier and then eventually travels back in time for no real reason and starts up a paramilatary group of disaffected mutants, again, for no discernable reason'.
Spot the odd origin story out.
Or something. It's past midnight, in a heatwave and I'm on my 6th beer of the evening.
*burp*
Edited by darkmorgado at 00:35:18 26-07-2013
Edited by darkmorgado at 00:48:30 26-07-2013
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