Badminton Rackets

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  • The-Storm 19 Jan 2005 16:07:43 327 posts
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    Hi all!

    Being a couch potatoe and playing xbox in my spare time
    is not good for my health... so i'd like to get into the
    medium to hard sport of Badminton.
    Can any of you recommend any good rackets around the
    price of £75-£120. I want something that's light
    and strong.

    I used to have a Yonex racket ages ago.. ages as in
    80's...you know when Michael Jackson released "Bad"...
    so i guess I may go for a Yonex mainly cuz it's a
    reliable brand.

    Where would you recommend I should buy it from?
    Would it be much cheaper online?
  • Mike_Hunt 19 Jan 2005 16:19:03 23,524 posts
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    If you're just getting into the sport, why spend such a great amount of cash. You can pick up a perfectly good, lightweight, strong, one or two piece racquet for half that amount.

    I've always picked mine up from a local sports shop.

    [MH]
  • Khanivor 19 Jan 2005 16:19:32 44,800 posts
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    AFAIK, football is the only activity this forum condones and is willing to admit to.
  • ssuellid 19 Jan 2005 16:20:50 19,142 posts
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    Khanivor wrote:
    AFAIK, football is the only activity this forum condones and is willing to admit to.

    Apart from Pistol and his tennis.
  • markh 19 Jan 2005 16:22:20 3,599 posts
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    ssuellid wrote:
    Khanivor wrote:
    AFAIK, football is the only activity this forum condones and is willing to admit to.

    Apart from Pistol and his tennis.

    and pocket billiards
  • Nasty 19 Jan 2005 16:23:13 4,840 posts
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    Do Carlton still make rackets?

    I've still got mine from when I was 16. Cost about £150! I won the Under 18 West of Scotland Championship with it :o)

    /has something to feel smug about
  • ssuellid 19 Jan 2005 16:29:14 19,142 posts
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    Try this place 40% off a lot of stuff.

    Edited by ssuellid at 16:31:11 19-01-2005
  • mentat 19 Jan 2005 16:30:04 5,613 posts
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    I personally like carlton racquets.
    I wouldn't recommend buying one online, you need to feel the weight and see what size grip you need.

    If you've not played before, you're wasting your money on a racquet that pricey.
    The most you want to look at is 50 quid.

    Just get a one piece non steel racquet. That'll do you for a couple of years, or until you get good enough to buy a better one.

    If you've played before, and you're going to invest in a better racquet, check the flexibility of the shaft. The more it flexes, the better!
    Don't be afraid to bend the shaft in the shop!
  • The-Storm 19 Jan 2005 16:34:07 327 posts
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    Edited by The Storm at 16:34:38 19-01-2005
  • The-Storm 19 Jan 2005 16:34:08 327 posts
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    Edited by The Storm at 16:35:10 19-01-2005
  • The-Storm 19 Jan 2005 16:34:10 327 posts
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    Mike_Hunt wrote:
    If you're just getting into the sport, why spend such a great amount of cash. You can pick up a perfectly good, lightweight, strong, one or two piece racquet for half that amount.

    I've always picked mine up from a local sports shop.

    Cuz i beleive in quality.and when i want to sell it on
    for an even better racket...it'll still hold some value
    rather than something purchased from Argos for £25.

    The expensive ones are light and easy to control so I can
    concentrate on my own badminton skills rather than
    trying to "manage" an inferior racket.
  • The-Storm 19 Jan 2005 16:36:49 327 posts
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    ssuellid wrote:
    Try this place 40% off a lot of stuff.

    Edited by ssuellid at 16:31:11 19-01-2005



    Thanks for the link I'll have little browse! :)
  • Neverness 19 Jan 2005 16:37:10 1,186 posts
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    Try Direct Sports, they have a niceish racquet selector which helped me choose mine, and are generally good value.

    I would say you really don't need a racquet at the prices you have suggested, I have a Yonex MP77 (£80) which is very nice but needs quite a bit of technique to use correctly because it is so stiff, in fact I have to change to my old racquet because my game goes out the window after a while.

    Some of the cheaper Yonex's (MP27 for example) are lighter than the higher end ones, but a bit flexier and, therefore, more forgiving. Try before you buy is the best way, most sports shops let you 'hire' the racquet without obligation to buy.

    Also Yonex maybe the biggest brand, but they are abit of a Sony in the badminton world (everyone uses them even though they aren't the best). Have a look at Karakal, Carlton, Babolat etc.

    And don't ask this question on a badminton forum.
  • Mike_Hunt 19 Jan 2005 16:37:34 23,524 posts
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    mentat wrote:
    Don't be afraid to bend the shaft in the shop!
    I've been kicked out of shops for less.

    /must stop hanging around ladies changing rooms

    [MH]
  • mentat 19 Jan 2005 16:41:07 5,613 posts
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    Mike_Hunt wrote:
    mentat wrote:
    Don't be afraid to bend the shaft in the shop!
    I've been kicked out of shops for less.

    /must stop hanging around ladies changing rooms

    [MH]

    how did i know it was going to be you to make a saucy comment about that line huh? :)

    *sigh*
  • The-Storm 19 Jan 2005 16:41:35 327 posts
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    Neverness wrote:


    And don't ask this question on a badminton forum.

    I'll have a look at the link you send me and "digest" the
    info there. Don't worry i won't post this in a badminton
    forum... that's why i posted it here! in a Computer & Video
    game web site. ;)
  • Nasty 19 Jan 2005 16:46:28 4,840 posts
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    Slurpy J wrote:
    Wow - did you go onto the North East South and West Scotland uber showdown of virtue and prosperity, in the arena of Perplexation?

    Sadly no. The boy who was better than me but wasn't at the west of scotland one got to go.

    Damn PE teachers and their favouritism.

    Dont matter how much you spend on it. Dont expect it to look nice for long. And dont buy 'training' shuttlecocks. Its like hurling dead crows who'd just had a good feed at each other.
  • mal 19 Jan 2005 17:32:09 29,326 posts
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    Neverness wrote:
    Some of the cheaper Yonex's (MP27 for example) are lighter than the higher end ones, but a bit flexier and, therefore, more forgiving. Try before you buy is the best way, most sports shops let you 'hire' the racquet without obligation to buy.
    Crikey, I never realised there was so much in selecting a raquet. I've always just gone on balance, weight and brand, and maybe string tension (though I wouldn't know how to measure that). So why are more professional raquets less flexible? And what's the difference between an iso and classic head shape - I can't see the difference in the pictures.
  • pistol 19 Jan 2005 17:41:33 13,018 posts
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    ssuellid wrote:
    Khanivor wrote:
    AFAIK, football is the only activity this forum condones and is willing to admit to.

    Apart from Pistol and his tennis.

    Well remembered. I would recommend where I get my rackets from but unfortunately they are only tennis specialists. I'm sure you could pick up a decent one on ebay. No point buying an expensive one until you've decided you want to continue playing. And by the way, my mum's 68 and still plays badminton. Not far off county level but tends to concentrate on doubles:)
  • Neverness 19 Jan 2005 17:44:44 1,186 posts
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    mal wrote:
    Crikey, I never realised there was so much in selecting a raquet. I've always just gone on balance, weight and brand, and maybe string tension (though I wouldn't know how to measure that). So why are more professional raquets less flexible? And what's the difference between an iso and classic head shape - I can't see the difference in the pictures.

    In theory you can get more power out of a stiffer racquet because it springs back faster or something. I find it less forgiving which is why, when I get tired, I change to my old Pro Kennex which is alot more flexable.

    Iso heads have a squarer shape to them, they give a bigger sweet spot and supposedly more power. They are also more forgiving to miss hits. Most Yonex's are Iso.

    Classic heads are egg shaped and have a small sweetspot but have a nicer feel (IMHO).

    In all honestly there isn't that much in choosing a racquet. It is easy to get lost in all the hype and 'buzz words' (muscle power, armortec, ultanium Ti, etc.) but in the end what is right for one person isn't for someone else so trying them is the best option.

    Edited by Neverness at 17:45:49 19-01-2005
  • LaundroMat 19 Jan 2005 22:53:50 1,443 posts
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    This is strange.

    I've just returned from a game of badminton and mid-game I was wondering whether there had ever been written anything about badminton on this here forum.

    And 'lo.

    *shudders*
  • pistol 20 Jan 2005 11:42:50 13,018 posts
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    Neverness wrote:
    Try Direct Sports, they have a niceish racquet selector which helped me choose mine, and are generally good value.

    I would say you really don't need a racquet at the prices you have suggested, I have a Yonex MP77 (£80) which is very nice but needs quite a bit of technique to use correctly because it is so stiff, in fact I have to change to my old racquet because my game goes out the window after a while.

    Some of the cheaper Yonex's (MP27 for example) are lighter than the higher end ones, but a bit flexier and, therefore, more forgiving. Try before you buy is the best way, most sports shops let you 'hire' the racquet without obligation to buy.

    Also Yonex maybe the biggest brand, but they are abit of a Sony in the badminton world (everyone uses them even though they aren't the best). Have a look at Karakal, Carlton, Babolat etc.

    And don't ask this question on a badminton forum.

    I can vouch for Babolat as a make because I use their tennis rackets, after using various Wilson models for years. They are still a relatively new make though. not sure about their badminton rackets, never used them. Lot's of pro's use their tennis rackets though. Probably the most commonly used rackets on the ATP, next to Wilson.
  • pistol 20 Jan 2005 11:47:46 13,018 posts
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    mal wrote:
    Neverness wrote:
    Some of the cheaper Yonex's (MP27 for example) are lighter than the higher end ones, but a bit flexier and, therefore, more forgiving. Try before you buy is the best way, most sports shops let you 'hire' the racquet without obligation to buy.
    Crikey, I never realised there was so much in selecting a raquet. I've always just gone on balance, weight and brand, and maybe string tension (though I wouldn't know how to measure that). So why are more professional raquets less flexible? And what's the difference between an iso and classic head shape - I can't see the difference in the pictures.

    Racket tension is a very personal thing. I get my tennis rackets restrung every 3-4 weeks, but I play a lot. Higher tension generally means you get a lot of power with less control. Sampras was renowned for having very fine gut strings done so tightly, he used to break them more regularly than most. I know a fair bit about stringing as ther guy who does mine is one of Wimbledon's top stringers. He also does the French Open, Queens and various others on the tour. He was also the only Brit to string at this years Olympics and has strung pretty much every famous player you could think of. He also strung Federers rackets at this years Olympics. He's taught me to string a little.
  • mal 20 Jan 2005 13:50:02 29,326 posts
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    Ah, thank for the explanations, pistol and neverness.

    /wanders off grumbing about threads falling off the front page
  • Neverness 20 Jan 2005 14:41:49 1,186 posts
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    mal wrote:
    Ah, thank for the explanations, pistol and neverness.

    /wanders off grumbing about threads falling off the front page

    'alright, hope it helped.

    Just to point out I was talking about the stiffness of the racquet, not string tension which is a different thing all together.
  • The-Storm 20 Jan 2005 16:23:48 327 posts
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    Guys thanks a lot for the info.
    I will need to pop down to Lilly White's to have a feel
    of these Badminton rackets.

    Still getting confused with defensive & offensive play. :(

    i think i shall be using this racket as my reference
    point this raquet as my reference
    point

    Also I recal players smashing the shuttle in such a way
    that it would make the a loud "Powww" sound.
    Can any of you tell me how it is done?
    Is it the way in which the shuttle is hit, the type of
    shuttle, type of racket? etc etc.
  • pistol 20 Jan 2005 16:44:44 13,018 posts
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    The Storm wrote:
    Guys thanks a lot for the info.
    I will need to pop down to Lilly White's to have a feel
    of these Badminton rackets.

    Still getting confused with defensive & offensive play. :(

    i think i shall be using this racket as my reference
    point this raquet as my reference
    point

    Also I recal players smashing the shuttle in such a way
    that it would make the a loud "Powww" sound.
    Can any of you tell me how it is done?
    Is it the way in which the shuttle is hit, the type of
    shuttle, type of racket? etc etc.

    I used to play badminton to a fairly high level at school and have dabbled a bit since. The noise can depend on racket type, string type and shuttle type. Can't be more specific than that tbh.
  • Neverness 20 Jan 2005 17:09:43 1,186 posts
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    The Storm wrote:

    Still getting confused with defensive & offensive play. :(

    i think i shall be using this racket as my reference
    point this raquet as my reference
    point

    Also I recal players smashing the shuttle in such a way
    that it would make the a loud "Powww" sound.
    Can any of you tell me how it is done?
    Is it the way in which the shuttle is hit, the type of
    shuttle, type of racket? etc etc.

    Don't know much about the Armortec range but that seems like a nice racquet. Replaced mine in the yenox range so must be good!

    Generally an offensive racquet will be head heavy (more power), whereas a defensive one will be more balance/head light (easier to move the racquet around).

    Use a feather shuttle, they make a lovely sound (though the actual noise varies depending on the stuff Pistol mentioned).
  • mal 20 Jan 2005 17:17:41 29,326 posts
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    Neverness wrote:
    Use a feather shuttle, they make a lovely sound (though the actual noise varies depending on the stuff Pistol mentioned).
    Yeah, but then you end up with a 20 quid a week shuttlecock habit ;)
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