Rhaegyr wrote:It was intentional |
Alfonso Cuaron's Gravity • Page 6
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Armoured_Bear 31,234 posts
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BinaryBob101 27,756 posts
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Registered 12 years agoNo, it wasn't.
Are we not allowed to point out the fact that your opinion of the film may be a little unwarranted and extreme? -
Armoured_Bear 31,234 posts
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Registered 10 years agoBinaryBob101 wrote:
What's extreme about it?
No, it wasn't.
Are we not allowed to point out the fact that your opinion of the film may be a little unwarranted and extreme?
It's a hugely enjoyable film, completely stunning in terms of visuals and audio but has cheesy dialogue, hammy acting and some cringeworthy scriptwriting, I never said it was a bad film, it has some very strong points and some very weak ones. -
Gravity is like a 90 minute video demonstration of 3D, like the ones you get in John Lewis to try and sell you a 3D TV.
It's amazing, it needs to be watched, everyone should go, but without the 3D it would be pretty dire.
Bullock was annoying, the script was poor and it was full of 'wheeeeeee jetpacks in space'.
Just IMO of course.
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altitude2k 5,238 posts
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Registered 12 years agoArmoured_Bear wrote:
I think the script is good, if you knew the reality. I've read a reasonable amount of autobiographies from shuttle-era astronauts, and there was a lot there that was reflected in the movie - especially in Kawalski's lines.
BinaryBob101 wrote:
What's extreme about it?
No, it wasn't.
Are we not allowed to point out the fact that your opinion of the film may be a little unwarranted and extreme?
It's a hugely enjoyable film, completely stunning in terms of visuals and audio but has cheesy dialogue, hammy acting and some cringeworthy scriptwriting, I never said it was a bad film, it has some very strong points and some very weak ones.
The military guys were a bunch of cowboys. Well-trained, intelligent and focussed, but cowboys. By their own admission they were sexist jocks who loved to brag about their scrapes with death and female conquests. I can see how to some those lines seem cheesy - but they're realistic.
In fact, the only deviation in his behaviour is that IRL they had little respect for the civilian cadets, at least to begin with. And Stone was portrayed as a bit greener than the reality for civilian crew, who generally proved to be more than capable. -
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Registered 19 years agoThis movie was a bunch of crap. I just watched it before it was completely gone. Oh my god, it made me want to scratch out my eyes like Sam Neill in Event Horizon.
In fact, speaking of Sam Neill, Dead Calm also had only a handful of actors, spent mostly alone and adrift and was a million times better because unlike Sandra Bullock, I actually cared what happened to the characters.
With Bullock as a lead, urghrg, she is just so generic and lacks any screen charisma. Robots have more character.
Imagine Gravity with Christopher Walken instead of Sandra Bullock. Every fucking scene, some awesome Walken monologue. Walken, 24 fucking 7. THAT is a goddamn movie. -
I drank 3 cups of tea and shouted at the cat in a complete rage after seeing Gravity. Atrocious everything.
Stone: Who?
Kowalski: Who? Who? Whadaya a fuckin owl? -
mangojoe 2,529 posts
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I drank 3 cups of tea and shouted at the cat in a complete rage -
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I thought it was ok.
Such a marmite film. I loved it -
Mola_Ram 26,196 posts
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Registered 9 years agoI don't think it tasted like marmite at all. -
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I also thought it was okay. I don't see why every critic seemed to lose their shit over it though.
A visual and sonic spectacle but Sandra Bullock doesn't sell catatonic well and that womb scene really pissed me off. Yes I get it, you're making a womb, move on already. -
mangojoe 2,529 posts
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Registered 11 years agoTo be honest , I wouldn't rush to watch it at home again. Very much a cinema film -
MrWorf 64,193 posts
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Registered 20 years agoThis film, it's basically Mr Magoo in Space right? I finally watched it and found it really funny watching Sandra Bullock blindly bumble her way from one disaster to another yet miraculously survive whilst everybody dies around her. Mr Magoo. Absolutely hilarious -
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Registered 14 years agoArmoured_Bear wrote:
Never a truer word spoken.
@Syrette
I don’t even know what I disliked most about this movie: the overdone, over sentimentality of the plot, or the fact that every line that came out of George Clooney’s mouth — or any mouth for that matter — made me want to jump out of my seat and throw popcorn at the 3D version of their faces.
The plot is unoriginal at best, sensational and desperate at worst. The movie is about Ryan (Bullock) and Matt (Clooney), two astronauts who get stranded in space after the debris from a destroyed satellite ruined their space shuttles and threatened to kill them. Matt has to sacrifice himself so that Ryan will live, and of course, she does. Anything unpredictable about that story line? Because if so, I totally missed it.
Maybe — and this is a generous maybe — the story wouldn’t have been so bad had it not focused on the same predictable theme countless other movies do: A strong will to survive, even after terrible circumstances, is enough to allow you to survive under these terrible circumstances — even when you’re trapped in space, you run out of oxygen in your tank, your shuttle gets caught on fire because, apparently, these shuttles are made of Birchwood, your capsule runs out of fuel, you don’t know how to use a rescue capsule, yet your random pushing of buttons is actually correct and you land on the cushion of water. This girl just can’t seem to catch a break, but she makes it out okay in the end.
But the worst part about the movie wasn’t even the plot, it was the inconsistencies, awkwardness and outright terrible dialogue that made me want to stand up in my seat and boycott. It was full of dialogue that’s evidence only to the cheesiness Hollywood is drenched in. The kind of movie where the witty lines just keep coming, no matter what happens.
Case in point: Even after almost being killed by debris, even after their fellow astronaut friend is killed, Matt says, calmly to Ryan (who is hyperventilating, mind you), “I know I’m devastatingly good-looking, but you got to stop staring at me.” Evidently, even after a traumatic event, Clooney’s charm can’t wither, not even after debris nearly ripped his body in to shreds.
But, it gets better. There are times in the movie when I can’t even believe that they’re astronauts at all. When Ryan is running out of oxygen in her tank, (this is after their space shuttle was destroyed by debris), Matt tells her to save her oxygen. You know, breathe slowly and sparingly. But then he keeps asking her questions about her life, and she keeps talking and talking, obviously not conserving the only thing that is keeping her alive: oxygen.
And don’t even get me started about the scene in which Bullock starts barking to a Chinese man from inside her isolated space vessel. Yes, actually barking. As in, like a dog. Alone and afraid, she found him on her space talk radio. At first, she tries to get a hold of someone who could, you know, help her, but ends up getting in contact with a man in China instead, who doesn’t seem to speak a word of English and just enjoys talking to people in space in his spare time. So he has a dog, the dog barks and Bullock barks with it. Then a baby’s cry comes in to the mix (we didn’t see that coming) and she starts to tear up — well, as much as Bullock can muster. And then she asks this man if he would pray for her because she doesn’t think anyone is going to mourn her death. And that’s when the religious pandering begins: “No one taught me how to pray,” she whispers to no one in particular. It’s cheesy, overly sentimental and just too damn much.
If it weren’t for the script and story, maybe this could have been a good movie. The visuals are beautiful. Earth is amazing to look at from space. But the plot and dialogue are so painful, so cheesy, so unrealistic, it makes me queasy
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MrWorf 64,193 posts
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Registered 9 years agoI think there's some webisode clip floating around showing the guy talking on the other end. With the dog and everything. -
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Registered 20 years agoThe more I think about this film the more I'm starting to think I was suckered into watching a chick flick. It's a beautiful film, with amazing action scenes. But I really hope NASA doesn't let people as green as Ryan Stone into space. Her survival was mostly the result miraculous fortuitous circumstance and not so much intellect and ingenuity. I dunno... Maybe I know too many space geeks, maybe I've played a little too much KSP. But to me, someone who knows that little about space shouldn't be in space. OTOH you could argue that her ignorance saved her. -
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Registered 12 years agoShe didn't survive. -
Yeah, that was the awful bit. After surviving all that, she falls over post-credits and bangs her head on a rock. Awful. I guess it just shows how fickle fate can be. -
BinaryBob101 27,756 posts
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Seriously though, I'm not the only one that thinks there may be a level of ambiguity in Gravity's climax:
http://www.literaryramblings.com/gravity-does-ryan-stone-survive -
So, her landing could have been in the afterlife?! Looking forward to re-watching it. -
BinaryBob101 27,756 posts
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Registered 12 years agoYeah, in a nutshell.Or, all of the rest of the film is an hallucination from the point that Clooney comes back.
I just don't like the convenience and ease of her survival against utterly insurmountable odds.
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Registered 12 years agoI can't possibly enjoy this space movie, i have seen a documentary on the history channel and the movie apollo 13, so I'm somewhat of an expert on the matter. -
Out next week on blu ray, anyone buying? -
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Registered 17 years agoWanted to watch it in the cinema, but no one wanted to come with me.
Just watched it.
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Rhaegyr 5,499 posts
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Registered 10 years agoEven if we also think it's amazing?
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I've seen this twice in 2D only and my enjoyment wasn't diminished by the fact.
I still think Disney should've gotten Cuaron to do Star Wars rather than JJ lens flare
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