Wireless network - internet sharing. Bollocks.

  • Khanivor 25 Jan 2005 12:05:15 44,800 posts
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    I've got to go back and try to fix this problem. I was round at a friend's house most of last night trying to get a wireless client to connect to the internet through a wirelss router in another nearby house. The signal is a-ok, and I can browse the netwrok no problems. But it no see the internet, which workd just fine on the machine connected to the router by cable. Both machines run XP, while the wirless client has an AOL BB account which now doesn't bloody work either.

    Does anyone have any suggestions, or know of some good FAQs on the subject. My googling has turned up little of note.
  • sam_spade 25 Jan 2005 12:13:30 15,745 posts
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    Manual configuration of IP address? Check
    Internet Gateway IP set (either the router IP or the computer IP)? Check
    DNS Server IP inserted? (Do a google for DNS server [ISP name] if you don't know what it is.) Check.

    Beyond that, I don't know.
  • Deleted user 25 January 2005 12:17:41
    You should go to the netstumbler forums. They're really friendly there :p

    Seriously though. FAQs on the subject galore! Just don't ask any questions.
  • Khanivor 25 Jan 2005 12:37:38 44,800 posts
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    sam_spade wrote:
    Manual configuration of IP address? Check
    Internet Gateway IP set (either the router IP or the computer IP)? Check
    DNS Server IP inserted? (Do a google for DNS server [ISP name] if you don't know what it is.) Check.

    Beyond that, I don't know.

    Got the first two because the DHCP server on the router is not providing IPs across the wireless. I may try out manualy configuring the DNS. Not something I've tried before, but worth a shot.

    I'm off to netstumbler, keeping me fingers crossed.
  • sam_spade 25 Jan 2005 12:47:58 15,745 posts
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    I'm on a wireless network, what happens when I don't have the DNS set is I click a bookmark, the status bar flicks off and on and then nothing. I have it set all across the network, anywhere that will take a DNS I have set it to the same one.
  • martyngates 25 Jan 2005 12:58:30 1,752 posts
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    a good test is always trying to ping google.com using a command promt to see if you have any sort of connection there

    start a command prompt, start - programs - accessories
    type [code]ping 66.102.9.104[/code] (ip address of google.com)

    if that works and you get replies, try

    type [code]ping www.google.com[/code]

    if that doenst work start up internet explorer and browse to [code]http://66.102.9.104[/code]

    and see if you get anything
  • Khanivor 25 Jan 2005 13:04:49 44,800 posts
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    I was trying all that. No ping to anywhere but the router itself and the other machine on the network. DHCP didn't give the woreless PC an IP; the wireless NIC wouldn't work at all unless I manualy assigned an IP to it. Manualy assigning a the router IP as a gatewaty had no effect.

    The problems I get are similar to what you describe sam, although IE brings up the good old c:\\res**dns page.

    Still not haivng any luck tracking down a solution. I don't want to spend most of today tugging my hair out. grrr.
  • Deleted user 25 January 2005 13:13:12
    Khanivor wrote:
    I've got to go back and try to fix this problem. I was round at a friend's house most of last night trying to get a wireless client to connect to the internet through a wirelss router in another nearby house.

    If you're jacking someone else's bandwidth, remember that this could be LAN only, and not connected to the net...

    Run a 'trace route' (dos prompt type tracert /? for help) and see how far your packets travel before they get drop... He could be dropping your packets based on the IP addy you're using, or your MAC address...

    oh and MAYBE be's phishing for connections to hack YOUR PC... Ever think of that?
  • Khanivor 25 Jan 2005 13:17:57 44,800 posts
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    Na, it's all legit. The router belongs to the guy and the other PC to his bird's son, who lives next door.
  • martyngates 25 Jan 2005 13:21:28 1,752 posts
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    what sort of router is it? brand/model?

    and why does the wiresless one have an aol bb account? doenst it have its own phoneline?

    Edited by martyngates at 13:23:48 25-01-2005
  • Khanivor 25 Jan 2005 13:24:30 44,800 posts
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    3com office connect adsl wireless 11g firewall router bastard not connect internet.
  • bivith 25 Jan 2005 14:14:38 2,469 posts
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    Make sure that your wireless connection isn't bridged in XP. I had exactly the same problem before, because my network had previously been configured differently. It wouldn't get an IP from the router until I removed the wireless adapter from the bridge. You this in the network set-up panel in XP.
  • brutal 25 Jan 2005 14:20:33 883 posts
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    Check to see if the wireless card is set to ad-hoc or infastructure mode.

    That router will only work for cards set to infastructure.

    Also, keep all settings the same (i.e. turn off encryption on both cards + router).

    That router will assign IP's through DCHP over wireless connections - i have one and it works fine most of the time.

    If that doesnt work, try changing the channel that it's broadcasting on from 11 to something else (doesnt matter).

    Edited by brutal at 14:21:59 25-01-2005
  • Nemesis 25 Jan 2005 14:29:29 20,312 posts
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    frod wrote:
    reboot
    reboot
    reboot

    throw XP in the bin.

    /spits

    /has to replace keyboard. Again.
  • Khanivor 25 Jan 2005 15:09:46 44,800 posts
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    Tried manualy inputing the DNS address, no joy. It appears as if the computer isn't looking across the wireless for the internet; i tkeeps trying to dial it's own connection. Which, by the way, doesn't work anymore either, says it cannot locate the hosts file.

    So now not only does the wireless not connect to the internet, the bastarding Aol doesn't want to play either. Help!
  • bivith 25 Jan 2005 15:11:54 2,469 posts
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    Honestly, check how your connection are bridged. This is exactly what I was experiencing. Make sure the wireless adapter is not bridged.
  • Khanivor 25 Jan 2005 15:15:10 44,800 posts
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    Checked that as it sounded promising. Not bridged.
  • sam_spade 25 Jan 2005 15:22:49 15,745 posts
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    If it's trying to dial it's own connection then go into Control Panel>Internet Options>Connections and click Never Dial A Connection. Then click on LAN settings and make sure the Automatically Detect box is ticked.
  • Khanivor 25 Jan 2005 15:38:10 44,800 posts
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    ADSL is connected, typing this using the router connection.

    AoL is a bugger, but I'm not at the point of reinstalling windows just yet.

    The machine has no problems seeing the network, just so long as it's IPs are manulay defined. LEave it to the routers DHCP and nothing happens, it cannot get an IP and uses standrard windows range instead.

    Bill, have you had any problems with connectin to the net over the wireless?
  • Khanivor 25 Jan 2005 16:02:03 44,800 posts
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    Those are both my next and final optiond before I SMASH!!!
  • Deleted user 25 January 2005 16:07:46
    As a last resort you could try a thread on netstumbler. They do really know their stuff, and probably can help, even if they're not willing.

    Just be sure to post the link so we can all laugh at the flame war :)
  • Deleted user 25 January 2005 16:08:54
    Khanivor wrote:
    3com office connect adsl wireless 11g firewall router bastard not connect internet.

    That could be your problem then! ;)

    /whispers Draytek.....
  • Khanivor 25 Jan 2005 18:02:08 44,800 posts
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    Gave up on the fucker. It looks like windows has got itself all confused to buggery and back, so it's time for a fresh install.

    But that has tyowait untill next week when I get back.

    /kicks anything in sight

    /rubs sore toe
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