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  • JoelStinty 26 Nov 2015 11:50:19 9,414 posts
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    John as posted quite a bit of new stuff on soundcloud (and download able) some of if its great.

    The Renoise stuff is more akin to recent stuff (enclosure/trickfinfer)
    And Guitar stuff i have yet to listen to

    A track recorded with Omar in there too.

    All Here

    Also a statement from him too:

    I now have a Bandcamp page and a Soundcloud page and have put up a bunch of unreleased music of my past. My own name has been taken by several people, so one is called jfdirectlyfromjf.bandcamp.com and the other is called soundcloud.com/jfdirectlyfromjf.
    At present, I have put up a 19 minute group of 6 songs recorded on 4-track cassette in May 2010, the instrumentation being 3 guitars and one drum machine. It is a bunch of weird anti-rock star guitar solos, played mainly on a Mosrite Ventures guitar, and a Yamaha SG, accompanied by an Elektron Machinedrum, excepting one song where I used a Roland TR 707, and another where a 707 was used, but is not in the mix.
    I have also uploaded a 37 minute collection of tunes made between 2009 and 2011 which were all recorded in my main studio during various stages of its development, as well as various stages of my devopment as an engineer.
    Furthermore, you will find in these places the full 20 minute version of Sect In Sgt, my all-sample piece, in its entirety. The version which was online before, under the name Trickfinger, omitted the first 5 minutes of the piece.
    In addition, there is an interpretation of the song Fight For Love from the movie Casa De Mi Padre, recorded one sunny afternoon in November 2013 by Omar Rodriguez and myself, plus Medre, a track recorded in 2008, and a vocal and guitar only version of the song Zone, from my album Enclosure.
    This music is all free of cost to the public, and can be downloaded or streamed on Bandcamp and Soundcloud. With the exception of Zone, this is all music which was made purely for the sake of making music, rather than for having it released and thereby sold. In other words, Zone is the only song which was intended to be on a record.
    When someone releases music on a label, they are selling it, not giving it. Art is a matter of giving. If I sing my friend a song, it goes from me to her, at no cost. That’s giving. If I sell you an object, we do not say that I gave you that object. Recording artists have been “giving” the public music by selling it to them for so long that we now think of sell-outs as dedicated musicians who love their audience so much that they aggressively sell them products, and sell themselves as an image and personality to this audience on a regular basis just as aggresively. Sell-outs is an antiquated term which, when I was a kid, referred to artists who love making money more than they love making music. The word indicated a lack of artistic integrity. Sell-outs suck, in my opinion. Its a shame its become so normal, expected, and acceptable to be one. When I was a teenager it was very common for people who loved music to insult a recording artist for being, or becoming, a sell-out. I believe that this was a very healthy instinct on the part of music lovers.
    Giving people music for free online being so common these days is a good reminder that artistic expression is always a matter of giving, not taking, or selling. Selling is the making money part, and artistic expression, creation, is the giving part. They are distinct from one another, and it is my conviction that music should always be made because one loves music, regardless of whether one plans on selling it or not. Creation is the source of life, while making money is what people do for food, clothing, shelter, necessities, and comfort in some cases, and to exercise their greed in others.
    It is my pleasure to give you this music. Sometimes I will announce here on my site that I have posted music in these places, and other times I will not. Any music I stream from here on my site will now be linked to my Soundcloud page.
    I also must clear something up. I normally don’t read my press, but I heard about this quote, recently taken out of context by some lame website and made into a headline, in which I said “I have no audience”. This has been misinterpreted, and by no fault of the excellent journalist who interviewed me for the fine publication Electronic Beats. Ever since I quit my old band in 2008, I have made music specifically to learn and to make the music which I want to hear, without an audience in mind. Nevertheless, between 2008 and 2013, every time I recorded a track, I sent it to Aaron Funk and Chris McDonald who are my Speed Dealer Moms bandmates, and often to a few other friends. Early on in this period, I realized that whoever I sent my music to or played my music for had become my “audience”, ie the people who I aimed my music at.
    Even when you make music purely for the sake of doing it, as I do, it sometimes helps to have friends who’s ears and taste you have in the back of your head when you’re making it. But this can also put you in a straightjacket, just as aiming your music at the masses can. Therefore, in Jan 2014, I decided to stop having an “audience” in this sense, and so I stopped finishing songs or sending what I was doing to friends, and started making a lot of songs at once rather than one song at a time. This freed up my mind so that I could make music purely to hear it and live with it, in order to grow in a different direction for a while. This was not a permanent decision. In fact, I’m already past that phase. Trickfinger is not my final record, and I never said it was, as was claimed by that silly website.
    Obviously I have a public audience. I am aware of them, and they know who they are. When I said “At this point, I have no audience”, I meant “audience” in the figurative sense of people who I have in mind when I am creating, who I intend to send my music to or play it for. In the original interview I had made this clear in an earlier sentence which was not printed, in which I recall saying, “There I was(in 2009), trying to make music without an audience in mind when I realized that Aaron and Chris had become my audience.” So when I later said “At this point, I have no audience.”, the journalist knew I was not referring to the public. In the context of the Electronic Beats article, which was in regards to an album of music which was not originally intended to be heard by the public, I believe my meaning is clear.
    Reduced to a single sentence, it would have been accurate to say that, at this point, I have no particular audience in mind while I am making music. Thinking this way gives me a certain freedom and stimulates growth and change. It is a state of mind that has been extremely useful to me from time to time throughout these last 27 years of being a professional musician.
    I am grateful that I still have an audience, considering that I do not make music preconcieved to conform to “what people want”. I don’t think people know what they want, except that the general public thinks that artists should sound as their audience expects them to. The general public did not “want” Jimi Hendrix’s music before 1967. They did not know that such sounds were possible. How could they have wanted it before they heard it? Did the public “want” Sgt. Pepper before it came out? That would have been impossible, because no album had ever sounded remotely like that. Yet musicians who aim at becoming or remaining popular have gotten into this stupid habit of attempting to give the public “what it wants”. I made a good living doing this for years, and in 2008 decided that I would never cater to people who believe its a musicians job to give audiences “what they want”, ever again. I have excellent relations with the two independent labels who release my music, and like me, they are not aimed at the masses.
    In mainstream industry jargon, an artist who has a small audience is said to have “no audience”. I’ve always despised that expression, because it implies that audiences with uncommon taste are nonentities, rather than actual people. I certainly do not talk that way. I love people, and do not like to see them devalued. I’m glad that the people who continue to follow what I do have kept their minds active and open. And I’m pleased that rock fans are not the only people listening to what I’ve done. Thank you all for existing.
    It always good when you wake up to new music from John
  • Salaman 26 Nov 2015 15:19:06 24,080 posts
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    Thanks for the heads up!
  • Deleted user 26 November 2015 15:26:35
    I have never listened to any of Frusciante's stuff but Chili's stuff always suffers without his involvement.

    Shall rectify, why did he leave the Chili's again?
  • Armoured_Bear 26 Nov 2015 15:36:19 30,322 posts
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    @JoelStinty
    I was going to post that.
    Delighted to hear how misquoted he was.
  • Armoured_Bear 26 Nov 2015 15:37:26 30,322 posts
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    JiveHound wrote:
    I have never listened to any of Frusciante's stuff but Chili's stuff always suffers without his involvement.

    Shall rectify, why did he leave the Chili's again?
    Because he likes singing lyrics that don't make him cringe.

    His solo stuff is so much better than RHCP that it's plain silly, it's less commercial of course.
  • Deleted user 26 November 2015 16:38:03
    Listening to a playlist and it's right up my street. As a performer/writer myself I can't believe I haven't listened to him before now.

    Cheers for the thread bump.
  • SuperCoolEskimo 26 Nov 2015 19:15:12 11,875 posts
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    John Frusciante is a god.

    The Empyrean and Shadows Collide With People are works of art.
  • Armoured_Bear 26 Nov 2015 19:36:41 30,322 posts
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    JiveHound wrote:
    Listening to a playlist and it's right up my street. As a performer/writer myself I can't believe I haven't listened to him before now.

    Cheers for the thread bump.
    I'd start with To Record only Water for 10 days.
    Not the best production and has only a drum machine as he did everything but it's utterly stellar and first first post junkie status album.
  • Armoured_Bear 1 Mar 2016 10:28:13 30,322 posts
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    He has another electronic/drum'n'bass EP coming out in the next few months.
    I wish he'd just get fucking back to rock music :-(
  • JaroslawPypno 11 Mar 2016 12:22:19 10 posts
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    Frank Zappa wanted him to play with, but Zappa's rule was no drugs in the band. So Frusciante said no to Zappa but yes to drugs
  • JoelStinty 27 Mar 2016 20:33:16 9,414 posts
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    I wonder if that is one of his biggest regrets. I saw the mothers of invention do a pretty cool intimate gig 7 or years back in Penzance and they played various zappa numbers and talked about him. It was really cool, me and my mate were the only young guys there, the rest were bearded 60's year old.

    Listening to the Empyrean tonight, it really is an assault on the sense. So good.
  • Salaman 23 Jan 2017 14:10:27 24,080 posts
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    I don't think I would've recognised him.
    http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/hes_alive_this_is_what_john_frusciante_looks_like_in_2017.html

    Edited by Salaman at 14:53:59 23-01-2017
  • Armoured_Bear 23 Jan 2017 15:05:20 30,322 posts
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    Salaman wrote:
    I don't think I would've recognised him.
    http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/hes_alive_this_is_what_john_frusciante_looks_like_in_2017.html
    Hasn't changed, he's always looked like that with his hair short.
    I wish he'd step the fuck away from the computers and pick his guitar up.
  • Salaman 17 Mar 2017 16:35:38 24,080 posts
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    http://www.alternativenation.net/red-hot-chili-peppers-john-frusciante-talks-possible-collaboration-with-iconic-80s-band/
  • jimnastics 17 Mar 2017 16:42:26 1,869 posts
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    SuperCoolEskimo wrote:
    John Frusciante is a god.

    The Empyrean and Shadows Collide With People are works of art.
    I checked these out when you posted this originally, I meant to say thanks! Truly brilliant.
  • JoelStinty 15 Dec 2019 21:22:34 9,414 posts
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    Seems John as rejoined the peppers 👀
  • Armoured_Bear 15 Dec 2019 22:12:28 30,322 posts
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    JoelStinty wrote:
    Seems John as rejoined the peppers 👀
    Fuck!
    I want more solo stuff.
  • Frogofdoom 15 Dec 2019 22:13:36 17,489 posts
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    Might turn the rhcp around from the shit they have been churning out though.
  • fontgeeksogood 15 Dec 2019 22:28:44 12,913 posts
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    Maybe they'll make an album that sounds like all the others
  • JoelStinty 16 Dec 2019 07:16:09 9,414 posts
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    fontgeeksogood wrote:
    Maybe they'll make an album that sounds like all the others
    Like Metallica they will be forever held to a certain sound by their fans. They need to learn to say fuck em like opeth did and just write music they want to make.

    I listened to stadium Arcadium for the first time since it’s release earlier in the year and half of that album is them trying to sound like what they think fans want to hear and half of it is then going in new and interesting directions, led by John, so hopefully we get more of the latter.

    I never listened to any josh era stuff - I don’t know why as I think he is a wonderful guitarist but the chillis just weren’t for me after John left
  • Salaman 16 Dec 2019 09:29:43 24,080 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    JoelStinty wrote:
    Seems John as rejoined the peppers 👀
    Fuck!
    I want more solo stuff.
    That's sort of what my reaction was when the gf mentioned it.
  • Armoured_Bear 16 Dec 2019 09:33:38 30,322 posts
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    Salaman wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    JoelStinty wrote:
    Seems John as rejoined the peppers 👀
    Fuck!
    I want more solo stuff.
    That's sort of what my reaction was when the gf mentioned it.
    I just can't stand AK's shit lyrics and boring voice, JF's solo stuff is miles better than anything from the RHCP.
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