Valve officially announce Half Life 3 release date Page 2

  • nickthegun 19 Mar 2019 14:10:25 81,347 posts
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    Not just that but it's 12 years since ep2 came out. They would be better off rebooting it as The Half Life and starting again.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 19 Mar 2019 14:13:13 19,420 posts
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    Yes, which is why a prequel is believable (but I don't believe it).
  • nickthegun 19 Mar 2019 14:19:50 81,347 posts
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    That's one of the more frustrating things about it. They made this massive, compelling universe then sat with their thumbs up their arses for a decade making mobas and selling rape simulators.

    They could have done anything with it (see portal 2 for details) and they chose to do fuck all.
  • Not-a-reviewer 19 Mar 2019 15:34:56 6,183 posts
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    Itís so strange they havenít bothered. Itís not like game designers, artists and writers can get that excited about maintaining the steam store.

    Edited by Not-a-reviewer at 15:35:15 19-03-2019
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 19 Mar 2019 15:37:11 24,360 posts
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    I believe Gabe Newell has feasted on all the games designers that worked there.
  • Fake_Blood 19 Mar 2019 16:36:39 10,233 posts
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    People are crazy about half-life, valve is only going to make it to launch something new.
    Half life launched the company, Half Life 2 launched the steam client, and they are only going to make half life 3 when they need to sell you something new. Probably vr, when it's affordable/practical.
  • JonFE 19 Mar 2019 16:41:18 2,002 posts
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    When people think of a HL prequel, do they imagine playing through Gordon Freeman's MIT years, sweating over his graduate thesis, a Ph.D. and spring-break plans?!?

    :cool:
  • You-can-call-me-kal 19 Mar 2019 16:53:09 19,420 posts
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    Fake_Blood wrote:
    People are crazy about half-life, valve is only going to make it to launch something new.
    Half life launched the company, Half Life 2 launched the steam client, and they are only going to make half life 3 when they need to sell you something new. Probably vr, when it's affordable/practical.
    What did Episode 1, Episode 2, Portal and Portal 2 launch?
  • Fake_Blood 19 Mar 2019 18:17:21 10,233 posts
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    Ep1 and 2 was dlc basically, and Portal is only tangentially related to HL.
    Iím just saying that half life is really important to them, and theyíll probably only make it when they launch a new platform, be it hard or software.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 19 Mar 2019 18:38:04 19,420 posts
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    I think you're post rationalising some stuff there tbh. Half Life launched the company in the sense that it was their first game, but that wasn't strategic, and I think the launch of HL2 and Steam was serendipitous in the end. If the code hadn't been hacked then HL2 would have launched before Steam.

    You're right that it's a huge property for them and they would want to do something of great significance if they were doing a new game, but I don't think they see it in quite as absolute terms as a vehicle for launching stuff.
  • neilka 19 Mar 2019 18:39:53 23,273 posts
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    Steam was released over a year before Half Life 2.
  • SolidSCB 19 Mar 2019 18:59:41 12,445 posts
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    There was a time for a Half Life 3, but it has long, long gone. I can't remember a fucking thing from any of them in terms of plot, and I dare say neither does anyone other than a very small niche of that original player base. I know there was a cliffhanger at the end of the last one, that's about it.

    At this point they stand to win nothing by making it. They can happily live off that sweet, sweet Steam money. It is impossible for it to live up to the aura it has around it.
  • Not-a-reviewer 19 Mar 2019 20:36:56 6,183 posts
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    They didnít release HL1 to start a company, they started a company to make HL1. They didnít release HL2 to support steam, they released Steam to support HL2.

    Thereís nothing stopping them making HL3 - it doesnít have to be the release of new hardware or some other product that enables it. They just have to want to make it, currently they donít.
  • Fake_Blood 19 Mar 2019 21:07:22 10,233 posts
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    Hl2 was the kind of game people bought a new gpu for. They could make HL3, but even if itís a 9.5/10 game it would merely be a blip on their yearly income chart. Thatís why I think they are saving it for when they need to nudge people towards whatever is next.
  • grey_matters 19 Mar 2019 21:16:49 5,191 posts
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    neilka wrote:
    Steam was released over a year before Half Life 2.
    Do I remember a planned release, a leak, and a delayed release or was that something else?
  • fontgeeksogood 19 Mar 2019 21:23:24 9,489 posts
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    Hopefully it's the airboat DLC to fix the toxic canals level
  • Your-Mother 19 Mar 2019 21:31:24 4,077 posts
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    Steam was released to get a better handle on Counterstrike. Half Life 2 came a little over a year after as the first game to explicitly require Steam on release.
  • up_the_ante 19 Mar 2019 21:31:33 1,288 posts
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    The thing is if you're filthy rich you have very little incentive to do anything that could be hard work for what would ultimately be a tiny bit more money. That's fair enough - it's human nature. But why not give the IP to another great developer and let them work on it? You could even stipulate it can't be released until it reaches your standard. Even if you (Valve) can't be bothered to work hard on a new game, there are dozens of great developers that would.
  • SiroccoJetProp 19 Mar 2019 23:39:23 304 posts
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    All we wanted was episode 3. Didn't even need a full sequel. Just Ep 3.
  • ZuluHero 19 Mar 2019 23:49:43 8,641 posts
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    neilka wrote:
    Steam was released over a year before Half Life 2.
    Yeah but HL2 forced you to install it in order to play it. That's when steam started taking off.
  • Fake_Blood 20 Mar 2019 08:22:51 10,233 posts
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    I remember people absolutely hating Steam back then.
  • fontgeeksogood 20 Mar 2019 08:24:30 9,489 posts
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    I still do, not for specific reasons, just nostalgia
  • Tomo 20 Mar 2019 08:40:30 17,630 posts
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    Yeah Steam was always slammed for being a DRM piece of shit and a resource hog. Took quite a long time before it gained acceptance. That was back when everyone feared the loss physical media and sweet sweet big boxes. Next we'll be having the same conversation about Stadia once consoles become relics.
  • Fake_Blood 20 Mar 2019 09:01:25 10,233 posts
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    I think even the hl2 dvd had to be decrypted by steam which took forever.
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 20 Mar 2019 09:06:06 8,401 posts
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    @Tomo In fairness, the resource hog point was more relevant at the time. The Steam client has evolved a fair bit over the year, but its resource footprint hasn't changed all that much.

    If I remember, when HL2 was first released, I was playing it on a Pentium 4 3.2Ghz, with 2GB of system RAM, which was considered a fairly high end machine at the time. Steam's footprint on a machine like that was much more of a material consideration than it is on a modern PC.
  • the_milkybar_kid 20 Mar 2019 09:39:25 8,240 posts
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    That story for Episode 3 / HL3 that one of the ex script writers released a few years ago was satisfying enough for me. I'd still play whatever came out next but the time for needing 3 has long gone.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 20 Mar 2019 09:50:16 19,420 posts
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    I don't particularly care what the IP is. I just love and miss FPS type Valve games - HL, Portal, Left 4 Dead... They were all so fucking good.
  • Fake_Blood 20 Mar 2019 09:56:29 10,233 posts
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    Iíve been thinking they could just put a portal gun in HLvr. Portal gun in one hand, normal/gravity gun in the other.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 20 Mar 2019 10:03:14 19,420 posts
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    It always felt very likely that if HL3 ever happened it would acknowledge the Portal link and have the portal gun in it.
  • Tomo 20 Mar 2019 16:15:21 17,630 posts
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    Portal Stories (the fan made, Valve-sanctioned Portal VR game) was really, really good. It was only 45-60 mins long, but it showed how good Portal would be in VR.

    Valve have been supposedly developing three "AAA" VR games for years. I'd wager one would be in the Portal universe. Would go as far as maybe betting on it having some link to Half Life too.

    As someone else alluded to, Half Life 3 needs a big innovative hook and I think Valve + VR + Half Life could be it. Main sticking point is the barrier of entry to VR. But maybe in 2/3 years time with better, cheaper hardware (thinking inside-out tracking) something will emerge.

    I can but hope at least...
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