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The-Bodybuilder 12 Nov 2015 17:11:36 17,871 posts
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Blakester wrote:
My eyes are still rolling from the convenience of the safety net.

Watched it when it came out and was so meh about it, I wasn't even gonna talk about it here, till you mentioned that bit.

I mean, the couch in the first 10mins was bad enough, but the safety net? Why they f*ck would there even be a safety net there in the first place for an abandoned building rigid to be destroyed?

I really rolled my eyes at that bit.

Not-a-reviewer 12 Nov 2015 17:15:52 7,686 posts
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There's no reason there can't be a direct sequel. It's not the first time bond has been in the position they left him in.

Deleted user 13 November 2015 18:18:46

beastmaster wrote:
Calling Martin Campbell.

He did an excellent job with Goldeneye and Casino Royale.

Yup. It seems that he's the only director that can make a decent Bond. Both were far better than each actor led films that followed.

Royale was so good, QoS was awful and Skyfall was meh. I still don't get the fuas that received when it came out.

Saul_Iscariot 13 Nov 2015 18:26:44 4,399 posts
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@TheSaint It would have been a 5/10 had you not had the obnoxious parents distracting you.

Not-a-reviewer 13 Nov 2015 18:35:37 7,686 posts
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Both of those had a long time to write/post produce too.

Saul_Iscariot 13 Nov 2015 18:51:18 4,399 posts
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@reviewer Who? The kids? He said they were both under five. Sure in films terms that is a long time to develop, but they also have to master communication, pooping and crawling/walking as well.

jimnastics 13 Nov 2015 18:57:20 1,893 posts
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eightbitboy wrote:
backed by a great theme song performed by Sam Smith.

I don't know much about Sam Smith, but that theme tune was fucking dire... it was the first time I had heard it and it put me in a bad mood for the start of the main film, after the excellent intro sequence. The guy's voice when he was singing the chorus was like nails on a blackboard, absolutely horrific.

Saul_Iscariot 13 Nov 2015 19:03:02 4,399 posts
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@jimnastics The Sam Smith song is an odd one for me. Let me be clear I don't think it is any good. But when you hear him describing how he went about writing it and singing it it sounds more like a song with ambition that did not quite deliver. The vocals are higher than his natural range, and he sang it live on Graham Norton and it was far better than the recording.

CosmicFuzz 13 Nov 2015 19:16:21 32,632 posts
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It's shite.

Saul_Iscariot 13 Nov 2015 19:25:42 4,399 posts
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Yes, it is, but not in its ambition. And I appreciate a singer that tries to challenge themselves.

Deleted user 13 November 2015 19:34:14

He sounds the same in all his songs.

Saul_Iscariot 13 Nov 2015 20:02:38 4,399 posts
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According to him he had top present a treatise on it, then a demo, then record it. If that is thirty minutes work, then hats off to him. I think I am slowly getting more and more done with conversations of this nature.

CosmicFuzz 13 Nov 2015 21:17:47 32,632 posts
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It was 20 minutes work.

And it was shite.

Deleted user 13 November 2015 21:20:21

I must be deaf cos it just sounds like standard Bond fare to me, not sure why it's getting the hate

CosmicFuzz 13 Nov 2015 21:59:19 32,632 posts
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You just don't GET Bond, PES.

Deleted user 13 November 2015 22:01:49

This is very true, I'm often getting Bond wrong

Deleted user 13 November 2015 22:02:38

STOP GETTING BOND WRONG!

Deleted user 13 November 2015 22:42:24

The Sam Smith song was a bit crap tbh. I can appreciate somebody trying to push themselves, but when they push themselves into delivering what's quite a weedy "traditional" Bond ballad, well it's going to fall short.

Shirley Bassey did the big, orchestral belting-the-lungs out thing exceptionally well, and if you try to copy that and fall short it's never going to hold up well. Would rather they tried something different.

Deleted user 13 November 2015 22:46:44

2 minutes of theme tune in a 150 minute film is the most important part

JYM60 13 Nov 2015 22:46:52 19,085 posts
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I think the song is decent, but not right for a Bond theme song. Not powerful or epic enough.

In regards the safety net. I think it's a reference to the whole film being a 'safety net'.

JuanKerr 13 Nov 2015 22:49:14 37,710 posts
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I've ofen wondered what it's like to pick apart and dissect every little thing. Do you people actually enjoy anything?

brigadier 14 Nov 2015 02:28:15 1,036 posts
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I'm usually easily pleased with movies but this was just 'okay'. Way too long. Too many nonsensical things. I know it's Bond, but there's a line to be crossed. When the helicopter crashes on the bridge and there's already a police cordon around it

Everything was way too convenient.

The scenes with Monica Belluci (as much as I adore her) were ridiculous, the love interest was ridiculous. She hates him and loves him withn 5 minutes for no reason.

And I didn't like the direct references to previous movies that I haven't seen. The Chinese people in the cinema were confused and bored off their tits. The chatters, people talking on the phone, the screaming kids and classless parents soured the experience for me I guess. It's okay for them fuckers, they can read the subtitles I had to bastard listen to it.

I knew Chinese people didn't have manners at the cinema as I've been dozens of times, but this was something special. A reflection on the movie perhaps.

Deleted user 14 November 2015 07:41:22

@The-Bodybuilder There's an interview with Craig talking before the release of Casino Royale - he talks about making Bond more fallible, a character that makes mistakes and that that increases the sense of peril when he's in tight situations.

Spectre doesn't bother and I think it's less gripping as a result. I rolled my eyes at the escape from the building. But there was also a totally lack of jeopardy to begin with.

It's not that I don't expect Bond to escape, that's a given. But at least in Casino Royale there was a sense that he was getting things as wrong as he was right and that meant I wanted to see how he'd get out of the tight squeezes and what the consequences would be.

docrob 15 Nov 2015 23:44:14 1,795 posts
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Saw this yesterday. It was OK, I enjoyed it as a film, but it strikes me that all of the Daniel Craig Bond films have lost their way (despite Casino Royale being brilliant). They've lost their sense of fun and become way too serious. There's something inherently ridiculous about a good Bond movie - it doesn't take itself too seriously, and that makes it easier to accept ludicrous escapes from danger. Spectre may be a good film, but it's too serious to be a good Bond.

Not-a-reviewer 16 Nov 2015 08:49:52 7,686 posts
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It was too serious? It was Roger Moore levels of ridiculous at times.

Ultrasoundwave 16 Nov 2015 09:04:20 6,440 posts
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brigadier wrote:
The love interest was ridiculous. She hates him and loves him within 5 minutes for no reason

Christ I completely forgot about that - when she said "I love you" I remember looking around at other people in the cinema, trying to find someone with the same "what the fuck!?" expression on their face.

Alas, it was too dark to see, but I'm sure everyone must have had the same reaction.....

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