Elon Musk's Hyperloop - travel faster than the speed of sound Page 3

  • DaM 30 Sep 2015 22:36:21 17,330 posts
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    I am sorely tempted....very good tax wise if you buy it through a business. You can offset the whole lot against profits, so that's saving me 12k in corporation tax straight away, and the benefits in kind are reduced.

    A sensibly priced Tesla will change everything. The reviews the S gets are amazing - it's said to be not just the best electric car, but the best car ever.

    But we'd need another car for serious use, eg going away longer trips, sticking the bikes on the roof etc.
  • MrMattAdz 30 Sep 2015 22:53:27 3,671 posts
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    Best electric car I can believe, but best car ever?! Who is saying that it is the best car ever? Out of all the reviews I've seen for it, there hasn't been a single 10/10.

    It's certainly a good car but it isn't the best car ever, it's not even the best car in it's class.
  • Fake_Blood 30 Sep 2015 23:05:49 9,535 posts
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    Yeah consumer reports said it was the best car they ever tested. I imagine safety had a lot to do with that.
  • Innuendobot_5000 30 Sep 2015 23:17:03 223 posts
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    CAN'T. WAIT. TO. GET. INTO. HIS. HYPERLOOP.
  • DaM 30 Sep 2015 23:23:00 17,330 posts
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    MrMattAdz wrote:
    Best electric car I can believe, but best car ever?! Who is saying that it is the best car ever? Out of all the reviews I've seen for it, there hasn't been a single 10/10.

    It's certainly a good car but it isn't the best car ever, it's not even the best car in it's class.
    Don't shoot the messenger!

    It scored over a 100 out of 100...they had to adjust their scale.

    It's not the first time I've heard the phrase mentioned when talking about the Model S.

    My brother in law has one. It is amazing. It seats 7, is fast as fuck, and has masses of room.

    Edited by DaM at 23:25:29 30-09-2015
  • Fake_Blood 1 Oct 2015 08:20:46 9,535 posts
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    Oh wow, it has a biohazard button!



    Edited by Fake_Blood at 09:40:28 01-10-2015
  • Benno 1 Oct 2015 08:43:29 11,719 posts
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    DaM wrote:
    MrMattAdz wrote:
    Best electric car I can believe, but best car ever?! Who is saying that it is the best car ever? Out of all the reviews I've seen for it, there hasn't been a single 10/10.

    It's certainly a good car but it isn't the best car ever, it's not even the best car in it's class.
    Don't shoot the messenger!

    It scored over a 100 out of 100...they had to adjust their scale.

    It's not the first time I've heard the phrase mentioned when talking about the Model S.

    My brother in law has one. It is amazing. It seats 7, is fast as fuck, and has masses of room.
    Yeah there are certain objective measures which make it one of the best, if not 'the best'.

    Its the fastest 4 door car ever
    Its the safest car ever
    Its the most? efficient 4 door car ever

    The fact that its main weight is the battery (which is close to the floor and in the centre) makes its centre of gravity optimal for cornering

    I've driven a model S, and its difficult to describe how nice it feels. Its steering is extremely responsive and the torque is instant
  • MrMattAdz 1 Oct 2015 10:09:51 3,671 posts
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    Well I asked for proof, I guess I should have expected it :)

    Don't get me wrong, I would love to own a tesla (who in their right mind wouldn't?), but I've seen enough reviews that say it isn't a 10/10 car and that apart from economy and acceleration it isn't as good as it's rivals. I will admit though that I get wary of stuff that gets hyped up this much, and that's probably why I'm being a bit negative about it.

    I'll be interested to see how the affordable tesla turns out though, just read that this model x costs $132,000 and the model s starts from 65,000 (not including government grants) and can go up to 90,000 for the top model. How much of the stuff that makes the current teslas so great will make it into a car that costs a fraction of the price?

    Edited by MrMattAdz at 10:10:31 01-10-2015
  • Fake_Blood 1 Oct 2015 10:30:32 9,535 posts
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    I just think to myself that early adopters are paying for the research and development for the cheaper car.
  • DaM 1 Oct 2015 10:33:44 17,330 posts
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    The X won't be that much - entry level will only be about 60k :)
    I think a lot of the technology will make it through. I imagine early adopters have been paying a bit extra, though Tesla haven't made a profit yet. I imagine all of it goes into R&D.
  • BillMurray 1 Oct 2015 10:40:39 9,425 posts
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    Someone PM me when used prices hit about 5k.
  • Benno 1 Oct 2015 10:48:41 11,719 posts
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    The model 3 will launch once the Gigafactory is fully operational. They need the economies of scale with battery production before they can offer it at a mass market price

    Their timelines seem very optimistic though.
  • Psychotext 1 Oct 2015 10:48:57 65,162 posts
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    You could probably get one for that much... but I'm guessing the battery likely wont work any more. :D
  • sport 1 Oct 2015 10:50:18 15,069 posts
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    How much to lease for a month?
  • MrMattAdz 1 Oct 2015 10:55:51 3,671 posts
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    sport wrote:
    How much to lease for a month?
    Saw this yesterday, I think it starts from 590 p/m for the base model s with no added options, 500 with government grants.

    Although this was for finance, not leasing. Not sure you can actually lease them in the UK yet, don't see any option on the UK website.

    Edited by MrMattAdz at 10:58:43 01-10-2015
  • DaM 1 Oct 2015 11:06:24 17,330 posts
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    BillMurray wrote:
    Someone PM me when used prices hit about 5k.
    If it gets to that price, it will be in bottle caps.
  • BillMurray 1 Oct 2015 11:07:42 9,425 posts
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    DaM wrote:
    BillMurray wrote:
    Someone PM me when used prices hit about 5k.
    If it gets to that price, it will be in bottle caps.
    I'd best get saving then!
  • Psychotext 1 Oct 2015 11:08:02 65,162 posts
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    When I checked it out last year the leasing costs were nuts. Same money could get you a top of the line Range Rover Sport.
  • sport 1 Oct 2015 11:34:53 15,069 posts
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    I don't want a Range Rover Psychotext.
  • MrMattAdz 1 Oct 2015 11:40:55 3,671 posts
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    Mercedes s-class?
  • DaM 1 Oct 2015 12:53:17 17,330 posts
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    MrMattAdz wrote:
    Mercedes s-class?
    Not cars I would ever be interested in.
    This was what my accountant compared the tax implications with against the Tesla. A similarly priced Tesla would be thousands cheaper for me.
  • MrMattAdz 1 Oct 2015 13:15:59 3,671 posts
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    Out of curiosity, why would you be interested in a tesla but not an S class?
  • Salaman 1 Oct 2015 13:25:51 23,643 posts
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    Last August I got to drive one while in vacation.
    (Model S of course, not the X).

    WANT!!
  • Fab4 1 Oct 2015 14:20:28 8,827 posts
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    http://www.chargepoint.nl/chargepoint/images/common/chargepoint-tesla-raedthuys.jpg

    Just a few doors down from our office.
  • Benno 1 Oct 2015 14:49:44 11,719 posts
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    All the taxis in Schiphol are Teslas now. Apparently they get some tax relief for using them.
  • Psychotext 1 Oct 2015 14:50:51 65,162 posts
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    Not all, but about 60% of them (well, as of two weeks ago anyway). I actually waited so I could make sure I got a Tesla. :D
  • Benno 1 Oct 2015 15:33:55 11,719 posts
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    :D
  • DaM 1 Oct 2015 15:56:31 17,330 posts
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    MrMattAdz wrote:
    Out of curiosity, why would you be interested in a tesla but not an S class?
    I think Mercs (and BMWs) are ugly, and status symbols for old men :) I am guilty of stereotyping the owners. So I feel a bit of a hypocrite driving my wife's 328d GT... It is quite nippy.

    In fact, there are not many cars I like the look of.

    This one is very cool though - and I can set it all off against tax in the one year, that's 12k off my corporation tax bill :) And I like my gadgets...the Tesla is just a massive, expensive gadget.
  • MrMattAdz 1 Oct 2015 16:11:54 3,671 posts
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    Yeah I will agree that you'd get a lot more respect driving a tesla than driving just another German saloon, but I kind of think they should have done a bit more with the looks. For me it looks really generic and boring, though I understand that it's a personal thing and that some people will prefer it that way, as opposed to something like a bmw i8 which for me looks special and does a good job at differentiating itself from conventional petrol/diesel powered cars.
  • DaM 1 Oct 2015 16:19:02 17,330 posts
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    MrMattAdz wrote:
    Yeah I will agree that you'd get a lot more respect driving a tesla than driving just another German saloon, but I kind of think they should have done a bit more with the looks. For me it looks really generic and boring, though I understand that it's a personal thing and that some people will prefer it that way, as opposed to something like a bmw i8 which for me looks special and does a good job at differentiating itself from conventional petrol/diesel powered cars.
    But how useful is the i8 with 3 kids, a labrador and a week's shopping from Lidls?

    Plus the ability for to seat 7 is very useful when carting kids about to cubs and stuff.
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