Does it matter what university you go to?

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  • gammonbanter 12 Sep 2013 20:51:12 1,796 posts
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    Does having a degree from Oxbridge or other similar Russell Group uni open doors? Will you get a better education as you move up the rankings? Do employers look for top ranked uni graduates?

    This is more in relation to Computer science, Computer engineering and other IT related courses.

    I'm leaning towards the idea that knowledge and equipment / software is pretty much standard now and I can't see where the value comes in going to and paying for a top uni comes in exactly.

    Are any of you employers in IT? What's your preferences?

    Rambling question over! =)
  • faux-C 12 Sep 2013 20:56:08 11,204 posts
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    Oxbridge makes a difference, it opens HR department doors, but beyond that, it's not really where you go as much as who you know.
  • Blotto 12 Sep 2013 20:58:28 2,778 posts
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    Will you get a better education as you move up the rankings?: Probably not

    Oxbridge is for sure an advantage though. Even if it's just you'll make some great connections.
  • elstoof 12 Sep 2013 21:03:02 23,680 posts
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    Go to Uxbridge. Worth every penny.
  • gammonbanter 12 Sep 2013 21:12:09 1,796 posts
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    @elstoof

    Ha ha, I went uni years ago. This thread was prompted by and lunch time debate with work people, work people with their heads up their arses I might add!

    Gaining contacts is a plus for Oxbridge attendance, no doubt. Still not convinced they teach anything better!
  • onestepfromlost 12 Sep 2013 21:19:01 2,719 posts
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    I would say to certain employers in certain fields they hold different unis in different. The owner of my cousins law firm for example said as far as Glasgow Universities go, they only really interview Glasgow Uni Graduates, the occasional Strathclyde and never a Glasgow Caledonian Student. However in theory a first from one should equate to a first in the others.
  • chopsen 12 Sep 2013 21:20:39 20,512 posts
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    Re OP

    Yes
  • FWB 12 Sep 2013 21:23:09 56,156 posts
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    There are some really shit unis out there. Really bad, with poor teaching and poor standards. Students just buy their degrees.
  • Load_2.0 12 Sep 2013 21:26:57 29,642 posts
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    Short answer. Yes.
  • Tonka 12 Sep 2013 21:35:23 29,676 posts
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    Yes and no and it depends on what you want to do.

    When we hire at our small web(mostly) agency, we are far more interested in the applicants personal projects than their education.

    But we are a 25ppl company with but two offices.

    At one of the bigger consultants I bet they have more applicants and do rougher initial screenings where education is more important.
  • Deleted user 12 September 2013 21:51:47
    Yes.

    But it's not an absolute, it's just a factor.

    I know Oxford graduates who are unemployed and doss about, and I know people who went to unis way down the rankings now doing great jobs. It's never a guarantee.
  • mrpon 12 Sep 2013 21:55:33 35,330 posts
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    Cut off your ponytail, don't smell, make eye contact and be sociable.

    Good luck.
  • thelzdking 12 Sep 2013 21:57:57 9,475 posts
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    In terms of getting a job, yes.

    In terms of quality of education, though, it's far, far more complicated. For example a 'shit' university could still be good for a particular subject and vice versa.

    Edited by thelzdking at 21:58:30 12-09-2013
  • Destria 12 Sep 2013 22:05:22 2,870 posts
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    I think so. If only because of the theory I just made up that "good uni" = "higher entry standards" = "smarter people in classes" = "more challenging classes".

    Not sure about the contacts part mind. I did Computer Science at a "good" Uni (Imperial) but made bugger all contacts. But that was mostly because I was an anti-social nerd. Still am, really. Your mileage may vary
  • Deleted user 12 September 2013 22:08:20
    Destria wrote:
    I think so. If only because of the theory I just made up that "good uni" = "higher entry standards" = "smarter people in classes" = "more challenging classes".

    Not sure about the contacts part mind. I did Computer Science at a "good" Uni (Imperial) but made bugger all contacts. But that was mostly because I was an anti-social nerd. Still am, really. Your mileage may vary
    I guess contacts depends on what you want to do, and how well you 'exploit' the links a department has with businesses, etc.

    For something like CS, I imagine that is important. For history, it's much more about networking with people within universities. Once you get to PG and above, it soon becomes clear that people from any university, almost, are respected and considered, even if they 'only' teach at, say, an ex-poly. It's more about the subject, in that case, and the particular expertise.
  • senso-ji 12 Sep 2013 22:41:36 9,706 posts
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    @gammonbanter

    While the candidate is more important than the degree, Oxbridge will open more doors for you than other University degrees will. A lot of Oxbridge graduates get jobs in the City; with a Computer Science degree, you could go into schemes where you write programs that analyse data for the top banks and investment firms. There are also many tech companies based in and around Oxford and Cambridge, so they could actively be recruiting on campus.
  • Metalfish 12 Sep 2013 22:50:31 9,191 posts
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    Yep. This came up when speaking to an old school friend recently. Having gone to a "lesser" uni in the same city, they tend to view my education as probably better than it is. I was kinda surprised by their reaction when I mentioned I went to somewhere very well thought of for my postgrad stuff. It matters.

    /Post both wanky and vague.
  • macmurphy 29 Apr 2019 13:31:24 3,884 posts
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    Weak spam game. Needs a link, Shirley?
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 29 Apr 2019 14:02:54 6,159 posts
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    @Reomani Was the secret of your success "frequent pubic lice infections" or "erectile dysfunction"? I hear those tend to happen a lot to people who use essay writing services. That and getting scammed, defrauded and expelled from their universities (just putting this out there in case google cares). Indeed, I gather most of them die penniless, alone and unloved, in a gutter under a railway arch with a stray dog pissing in their face.
  • beastmaster 29 Apr 2019 18:53:03 19,286 posts
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  • Technoishmatt 30 Apr 2019 17:21:37 3,485 posts
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    My wife's works counts a first from a few top non oxbridge unis as equivalent to an oxbridge 2:1. Any other university they dont even consider.
  • RawShark 12 Aug 2019 11:48:24 682 posts
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    If you want to get into politics or any other profession where you need proven membership of a club that fucks pigs and eats cummy biscuits, yeah probably.

    If you're a norm, I wouldn't worry too much about it.There are a lot of people who don't go to Oxford or Cambridge and they do alright.
  • nudistpete 12 Aug 2019 14:00:21 808 posts
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    I know this is a spam resurrection, I don't even care if you went to university (although you need to for your CV to be considered) all I care about is if you give a flying fuck about what we're doing, that you're passionate about the job and are willing to motivate yourself to learn and do stuff without constantly being micromanaged.
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