Ed Miliband the next PM for the United Kingdom Page 25

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  • Mr_Sleep 12 Feb 2018 18:46:01 22,154 posts
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    Bring in land tax and ditch income tax. So sayeth Earl Milliband of Geoffocraticius.
  • JamboWayOh 12 Feb 2018 18:46:37 11,744 posts
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  • JamboWayOh 12 Feb 2018 18:47:20 11,744 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    I'd be up for entering the Miliverse right about now
    Is that like the Marvelverse?
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 12 Feb 2018 18:53:54 9,426 posts
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    JamboWayOh wrote:
    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    I'd be up for entering the Miliverse right about now
    Is that like the Marvelverse?
    It's a better world
    https://mobile.twitter.com/TheMiliverse/status/961615298993573890/photo/1
  • H1ggyLTD 12 Feb 2018 18:54:22 11,861 posts
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    Oh God.

    A random spam post has turned into a centrist fever dream.
  • ResidentKnievel 12 Feb 2018 19:01:07 7,236 posts
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    Those crazy centrists and their manifestos almost identical to Corbyn led Labour's.
  • JamboWayOh 12 Feb 2018 19:02:13 11,744 posts
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    Dads. Dads everywhere, as far as the eye can see.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 12 Feb 2018 19:50:19 9,426 posts
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    All aboard the Milibus
  • GoatApocalypse 12 Feb 2018 19:55:09 5,322 posts
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    H1ggyLTD wrote:
    Oh God.

    A random spam post has turned into a centrist fever dream.
    A world in which there are more women guards at Yarls Wood and everyone has a Controls on Immigration mug.
  • mothercruncher 12 Feb 2018 20:06:47 15,914 posts
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    Jesus, you two twats are predictable
  • Armoured_Bear 12 Feb 2018 20:09:58 25,805 posts
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    ResidentKnievel wrote:
    Those crazy centrists and their manifestos almost identical to Corbyn led Labour's.
    cough* Brexit* Cough*
  • GoatApocalypse 12 Feb 2018 20:12:07 5,322 posts
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    mothercruncher wrote:
    Jesus, you two twats are predictable
    And you guys are easy to wind up.

    (I liked Ed and voted for him to be leader. I was with him until the mugs bullshit)
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 12 Feb 2018 20:46:43 9,426 posts
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    I don't think it's any real secret that he was the most left wing member of his shadow cabinet and makes no secret that he regrets how much he was swayed by the orthodoxy of triangulation and the wisdom of the "legitimate concerns" narrative
  • GoatApocalypse 12 Feb 2018 21:55:27 5,322 posts
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    He let himself get painted as weak. Had to keep answering questions about it, right up until the end. That he got painted as Ed Balls' bitch despite seeing off his brother to win the gig was very sad, very tragic.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 12 Feb 2018 22:50:14 9,426 posts
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    If he wants it I think there's a good route back to respectful elder statesman hood within the party. Kind of like Hague did for the Tories
  • GoatApocalypse 13 Feb 2018 06:29:11 5,322 posts
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    I don't think he wants it. As I understand it, Corbyn has tried to bring him into the Shadow Cabinet a few times but he's declined.
  • kaszoniferencz 20 Feb 2018 18:16:43 2 posts
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    binster wrote:
    robc84 wrote:
    monkman76 wrote:
    robc84 wrote:
    TheSaint wrote:
    monkman76 wrote:
    @boo In your example the higher earner pays around 7.3 times more tax, on 5x the income. Seems fair enough to me.
    That doesn't sound right. Are you taking personal allowance into account?
    Person A would only pay tax on around 2.5k due to personal allowance covering most of their earnings.

    Person B ends up paying nearly 30 times as much tax.

    Not saying it's right or wrong btw, just pointing out the facts :)
    Actually 18 times, as boo rightly stated in the first place :)
    Not according to my calculations... ;)

    Actually to be fair, he is right. I put in the wrong PA. My bad :redface:
    @robc84

    I'm probably woefully late to this, but Boo's original example (on the first page) of 12k versus 60k just feels unfair.

    The tax free level is 9440. If someone was earning 9440 they'd pay no tax (according to http://after-tax.co.uk/) meaning any increase in wage could be compared as paying infinity times more tax. 12 is pretty close to that tax free level.

    Argument against this approach to tax begs the question of how would you fix the imbalance - and considering how much of the 12k earner's wage is tax free, the only answer would seem to be to make them pay more tax, thus balancing out with the higher earner. Doesn't sound like it helps much.

    Anyway, carry on.
    Just like in 2013, people seem to misunderstand the UK tax system in 2018 as well. Here is a unique visual to get the grasp of it, it clearly highlights the personal allowance and tax bands: https://www.income-tax.co.uk/

    Sorry if it's a bit outdated for this post, but I hope it's helpful for people still confused by the way the UK taxation system is working.
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