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Tom Clancy dead in undramatic situation not involving breakway Russian terrorist cell - OR IS HE?
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Psychotext 70,652 posts
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Registered 15 years agoYou're not LetsGo.
Shame though, I enjoyed some of his work. -
Metalfish 9,191 posts
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Registered 16 years agoWay to steal all the inappropriate humour with the title. -
TheSaint 20,950 posts
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Registered 16 years agoSomewhere over the rainbow (six). -
God damn you meme. I was just trying to think of some terrible joke involving an overblown terrorist plot to accompany this story on Facebook, and now it's going to look like I copied yours. -
spamdangled 31,803 posts
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Registered 13 years agoThere has to be a Red October joke somewhere. -
MrTomFTW wrote:
In the spirit of the author, you can post what you wrote as long as you put my name on it.
God damn you meme. I was just trying to think of some terrible joke involving an overblown terrorist plot to accompany this story on Facebook, and now it's going to look like I copied yours. -
Nexus_6 6,169 posts
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Registered 17 years agoGhost Recon -
neilka 24,021 posts
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Registered 16 years agoTom Clancy's Ghost Recon -
Mola_Ram 26,187 posts
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Registered 9 years agoHe schlipped on hisch tea -
neilka 24,021 posts
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Registered 16 years agoKnackers. -
Who? -
oceanmotion 17,358 posts
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Registered 18 years agoRussian "Ashes in the water" -
Whizzo 44,810 posts
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Registered 20 years agoHis early stuff was good then it all went a bit bonkers so I stopped reading him, The Hunt for Red October is a lot better as a book than a film (although the film is good too), the reverse for Patriot Games as Charles and Di being the targets just seemed silly to me. -
oceanmotion 17,358 posts
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Registered 18 years agoI think he stopped writing ages ago, sold his brand to Ubisoft for games then had a ghost writer for his so called books.
There is a Jack Ryan film coming out soon with that young Captain Kirk bloke.
Edited by oceanmotion at 16:13:20 02-10-2013 -
CosmicFuzz 32,632 posts
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Registered 15 years agoTom Clancy's End War
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CosmicFuzz 32,632 posts
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Registered 15 years agoFucking spoiler tags aren't working. The 'war' was meant to be hidden. Fuck you forum! -
SolidSCB 16,771 posts
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Registered 12 years agoRainbow Six feet under -
MetalDog 24,076 posts
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Registered 20 years agoHe got a lot of guys to read who wouldn't have picked up a book otherwise. Not my cup of tea so I can't speak with any authority on the work, but hell - always sorry to see someone go who got people to read. -
As usual, I'm going to dissent to that, MD. 
He made a lot of guys pick up his books, but they never really evolved beyond reading that and so we ended up with a lot of middle-aged men stuck in an endless loop of technothriller and conspiracy novels. Which also lead to a lot of clones and knock-offs flooding the market, along with the formation of Clancy As A Brand, rather than Clancy As An Author. His stuff was mostly entertaining fluff, but also wholly soulless, and reading nothing but soulless entertainment is, in my mind, worse than not reading anything at all. Or something like that, I haven't thought that conclusion through a great deal. Which is probably ironic, but there we go. Plus his whole "the lefties caused 9/11" thing got on my tits quite a bit.
It does kind of sum it up that my favourite book of his that I've read (Politika) wasn't actually written by him (nor was a single book in the entire 8 book series that followed it). -
MetalDog 24,076 posts
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Registered 20 years agoYeah, but you're a bit of a literary snob, meme =) Some of those guys will have evolved from reading rightwing, shooty, manface grunting stuff and that's great. Even those who didn't at least gained a little insight into why other people might want to have their nose in a book, which is good too.
And seriously - reading only for entertainment worse than not reading at all? Shame on you, sir. -
Clancy novels were the first adult novels I read. I remember picking The Hunt for Red October up at my library before I'd even heard of Clancy. I was in my mid-teens and that was one hell of a thrilling book at that age.
Red Storm Rising was better - though that was co-written with Larry Bond. I used to read a lot of these types of books when I was younger and I thought Bond's stuff was better. Had the thrills without the right-wing dogma.
Interesting so many techno thrillers of this period ended up as games. Of course there were the Clancy ones, Larry Bond created the naval strategy Harpoon. Then there was Harold Coyle's Team Yankee and Stephen Coonts' The Flight of the Intruder. Both good books, both good games, and the latter one was also made into a crap film that completely missed the point. -
President_Weasel 12,355 posts
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Registered 17 years agoWasn't it Clancy who inspired the Twin Towers strike by crashing a 747 into the capitol in one of his books? Flown by a Japanese pilot (a Japanese kamikaze attack, no stereotype left unturned) after the Japan/India/was it China I can't remember plot to take over the world fell apart and America Fuck Yeah kicked their asses?
And then Jack Ryan got to be Unelected President Guy and cut through all the boring red tape of due process and accountability and enact various neocon fantasies?
Clancy has been a bit of a cock for a very long time. Red October was pretty good though, film and book both. -
I'm a huge literary snob. I'm also a literary elitist. It's too good for the proles, too good. They can have Honey Boo Boo and Wired Magazine whilst they work in the mines, we'll have books in our palaces, read to us by servants.
I didn't necessarily mean "don't read for entertainment's sake", just "don't read nothing but shit". I dunno. Like I said, I didn't really think the conclusion through.
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President_Weasel wrote:
I don't think he inspired the attack. But there were similarities. By then his books were batshit crazy fantasies as you say. I don't think the Jack Ryan of the early books would have been as bonkers as to carry out Clancy's neocon fantasies. I thought Clancy hated the Russians, but he really fucking hated the Chinese and Japanese.
Wasn't it Clancy who inspired the Twin Towers strike by crashing a 747 into the capitol in one of his books? Flown by a Japanese pilot (a Japanese kamikaze attack, no stereotype left unturned) after the Japan/India/was it China I can't remember plot to take over the world fell apart and America Fuck Yeah kicked their asses?
And then Jack Ryan got to be Unelected President Guy and cut through all the boring red tape of due process and accountability and enact various neocon fantasies?
Clancy has been a bit of a cock for a very long time. Red October was pretty good though, film and book both.
And every American hero had a hard working true-blue dad who was a fisherman, who never asked for welfare when on hard times, and like all right-thinking people believed in capital punishment, guns and patronising English characters as much as possible. -
MetalDog 24,076 posts
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Registered 20 years agoHehe.
You know me, meme. I go to fiction to be told a story with interesting people in it. I read a fair amount of non-fiction for education, philosophy, etc. When I pick up fiction, I expect to be entertained - if they manage to explore the human condition in there as well, even better, but dammit, entertain me while you do it. -
Khanivor 44,800 posts
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Registered 20 years agoI loved his early books. There were great reads that also let you believe you were being let into something you shouldn't. Couple them with games like Gunship and F/16 Falcon and there was an entire generation of young boys who sounded like military experts.
Once Jack Ryan became a god I stopped bothering.
Whatever his politics may have been he was a good writer and did a fair amount for creating the war porn genre in gaming. -
Was the first adult novel I read too, when I was at school.
Utter gash, think it was called Red Rabbit, or some shit like that. Read about a quarter of it, then binned it and got hooked on John Grisham books...
I guess Vince Flynn books aren't too far from Tom Clancy stuff though, and I got into them years ago.
He made a lot of guys pick up his books, but they never really evolved beyond reading that and so we ended up with a lot of middle-aged men stuck in an endless loop of technothriller and conspiracy novels. Which also lead to a lot of clones and knock-offs flooding the market, along with the formation of Clancy As A Brand, rather than Clancy As An Author. His stuff was mostly entertaining fluff, but also wholly soulless, and reading nothing but soulless entertainment is, in my mind, worse than not reading anything at all. Or something like that, I haven't thought that conclusion through a great deal. Which is probably ironic, but there we go. Plus his whole "the lefties caused 9/11" thing got on my tits quite a bit.
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