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She was indeed fine. DNA always said he was never happy with Trillian. She was just a background character who was never rounded out properly. That was my biggest gripe with the TV series. You've got a fairly serious character (the way Susan Sheridan played her) who was an astrophysicist). And she was English. So they get Sandra Dickinson to run about in a red swimsuit doing her (albeit natural) Betty Boop voice. As has been pointed out elsewhere - she's a fine actress and could easily have done the English Rose accent that the role warranted. By the way Peej - did you ever solve the puzzle of the coloured circles in the Illustrated Guide. I couldn't make head not tail of it. |
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Registered 17 years agoBill Door wins "Geek of the day" award for mentioning the albums. :0)
I think I'll wait to see what others say. I loved the books when I were a nipper, and the TV series was the highlight of the week (and - like The Young Ones - something I absolutely worshipped at the time) so I don't want to corrupt those memories by watching a 2 hour version which looked Hollywoodised (flash, bang, jump cut, quick zoom, jump cut, CGI, jump cut, gravelly voiceover, etc).
Admittedly that opinion is formed only from watching the trailer, but that's why I want to see what others think of it when they've actually seen the film.
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I think his colour matters if he's trying to fit into a rural setting. Sure, if it's modern-day London no worries - but a black guy wouldn't have worked in, say, the TV series at all 'cos a lot of villages didn't have a black population. At all. Not sure what context they've tried to put them in with the film, yet.
I disagree completely about Ford. I don't think his colour matters at all.
His nationality does. His Englishness. To be honest I think Geoffry McGivern's radio performance wasn't very good as Ford, and David Dixon's in the TV series was much better. As for the colour of his skin - the show started on radio, and book makes no mention of skin colour, so I think that's a real read herring.
But then he's from another planet trying to fit in, so really, that's the most important aspect of his character.
Sounds weird, though - but it's true. I lived in Somerset for a while, and though it wasn't the 70s I still didn't see a single black person in the three months I was there.
Hell, even where I live now in Derbyshire - the only people with dark skins I know of here are the dudes who run the local takeaway. Couldn't say why that is, I could only speculate really.
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Registered 20 years agoboo wrote:
She was indeed fine.
DNA always said he was never happy with Trillian. She was just a background character who was never rounded out properly. That was my biggest gripe with the TV series. You've got a fairly serious character (the way Susan Sheridan played her) who was an astrophysicist). And she was English.
So they get Sandra Dickinson to run about in a red swimsuit doing her (albeit natural) Betty Boop voice. As has been pointed out elsewhere - she's a fine actress and could easily have done the English Rose accent that the role warranted.
By the way Peej - did you ever solve the puzzle of the coloured circles in the Illustrated Guide.
I couldn't make head not tail of it.
Nope never did solve the puzzle...!
Useless but interesting fact. I went to art college with the bloke who played Zaphod in that book (and you're right, he does look like Razz - and he's about as tall as Razz too..)
Ironically he's not my fave person because he pulled a girl I had my eye on, so kinda made me feel just like Arthur Dent...!
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Trillian's not her name, though. 'least not to Arthur
"We need a love story" sayeth the producers, so suddenly they fuck the book in the arse and make a huge thing of Arthur being "interested" in Trillian despite previously being knocked back but keep it smouldering on the back burner (fucking annoyed the hell out of me in the trailer when he shouted "Trisha" at her. What was wrong with shouting "Trillian" ?!?!?).gif)
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pjmaybe wrote:
Trillian's not her name, though. 'least not to Arthur
"We need a love story" sayeth the producers, so suddenly they fuck the book in the arse and make a huge thing of Arthur being "interested" in Trillian despite previously being knocked back but keep it smouldering on the back burner (fucking annoyed the hell out of me in the trailer when he shouted "Trisha" at her. What was wrong with shouting "Trillian" ?!?!?)
Spose not but he is introduced to her as "Trillian" when being introduced to Zaphod who he knows as "Phil"
Didn't see him calling Zaphod "Phil" though did we?
I'm nitpicking it too much. I guess my love for the books and the old wonky TV series colours my judgement a bit too much
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pjmaybe 70,666 posts
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Registered 20 years agoYup you're right...!
Agh I DO do it with Star Trek AND Star Wars too...
And I KNOW I will do it with War of the Worlds (I reckon the british low budget version of that will knock the hollywood / tom cruise vehicle on its arse too)
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Registered 19 years agoboo wrote:
"Mmmmmmmmmmmmm"
/casually drops into the conversation the BBC sound effects albums he bought as they had tracks like 'Heart of Gold door: opens' on them in an attempt to wrest the 'Geek of the Day' award from Bill Door
Okay; my entry for HH geek. Y'know the sound that the Krikkit robots make when they arrive? A hundred thousand people saying "WOP"? Well, they changed it for the US edition so as not to cause racial offense...
Anyway, for me the biggest travesty of the HH movie (so far) has been Alan Rickman doing the voice of Marvin. No one but Stephen Moore should ever be Marvin...
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boo 13,901 posts
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Well the whole Krikkit thing was a bastardisation of an unused Dr Who script anyway
Whereas Dirk Gently's Detective Agency was based on a Dr Who script that did get used.
Leaps at Bill's award while distracting him with...
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Registered 20 years agoAkeldama wrote:
pjmaybe wrote:
And I KNOW I will do it with War of the Worlds (I reckon the british low budget version of that will knock the hollywood / tom cruise vehicle on its arse too)
I hear Spielberg is actually being quite faithful to the original, despite the change in setting. And there will be tripods.
I'm hoping it will be like High Fidelity, which managed to translate across the Atlantic pretty much in tact. Didn't see that at the cinema because of the shift to America, hated the idea. And in the end it's now one of my favourite movies.
You do love your hollywood stuff doncha...!
The low budget version really DOES stay faithful to the original. No heroes, no soppy love story, no cheesy tom cruise character, no overblown CGI. And it's set in the correct time period too (not to mention the correct country) which makes more sense.
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No I just don't moan about everything
Well there is that too
I'm just an old stick in the mud. I hate seeing things dicked about with by Hollywood, always have done...
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Harry's hit the nail on the head. Just as there was the recent outcry about Disney remaking Kiki's Delivery Service, people somehow don't realise that they're not "fucking the books/original in the arse and copping a good feel while they're at it" they're just making a different version of it. (And it WILL be different from the book, and the TV programme, and the radio version, because they all have different methods of working, it is impossible for a film to stay true to the book because there are limitations to the medium.) But what you've got to remember is that they're not fucking with the original version that you so clearly love and cherish*, your original version of HGTTG. So just don't go and see it if you feel it'll make you unhappy, and even if you do and it does, will it really taint the original in any way?
But if this kind of nitpicking is all people have got to say about the new movie then just don't watch it. You'll pick over every little word and go slightly crazy sat in the cinema.
It's more important that this movie is funny and true to Adams' broad universe than appealing to those sad fucking nerds who own every version of the trilogy (like me).
We are in serious danger of turning into Star Trek fans with all this whinging and pickiness.
*Obvious exception is the Star Wars DVDs, but then if you've already got the originals on VHS (and if you really care about star wars you will) what have you really lost?
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boo 13,901 posts
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Registered 18 years agoMy problem is all the people who will go and see the film who haven't read the books / heard the radio series / watched the tv show who will think that this is the definitive version.
At best, they like it, decide to track down the other stuff and realise the movie was cack.
At worst, they don't, and go around saying 'don't know what all the fuss was about'.
And before you ask...
Yes, I've made my mind up about this film without having seen it, or the trailer. I've read enough to know that they're doing the cinematic equivalent of dancing on my Nan's grave.
And yes, it matters to me if other people don't like it. Just because I've still got the memories of the good stuff doesn't mean I don't want to see it defiled.
On my list of things that are important.
5. Drumming
4. Gaming
3. My fiance
2. Breathing
1. THHGTTG
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On my list of things that are important.
5. Drumming
4. Gaming
3. My fiance
2. Breathing
1. THHGTTG
Just leave it alone you bas***ds!
LOL ! - have you seen the thread about things that are incompatible with your girlfriend ?
Like Peej, I get annoyed by America/Hollywood's insistence on re-hashing things that have already been done (Italian Job, Get Carter, etc). For me, I think it comes from having read 'Nineteen Eighty Four' a few times, and understanding the destruction of culture made by constant revision of history. Which, in a way, is what's being done. -
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Registered 20 years agoI'm hearing this "Douglas Adams' involvement" mantra repeated a lot.
The guy died in 2001.
Now that's what I CALL Ghost Writing...
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warlockuk 19,519 posts
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Registered 17 years agopjmaybe wrote:
In the TV show didn't he say something like "Good lord, Tricia MacMillan!" and then she corrects him?
Spose not but he is introduced to her as "Trillian" when being introduced to Zaphod who he knows as "Phil"
Didn't see him calling Zaphod "Phil" though did we?
I'm nitpicking it too much. I guess my love for the books and the old wonky TV series colours my judgement a bit too much
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Note #429. The first airing of HHG on the radio had the tune to Shine On You Crazy Diamond in the background as they step onto Magrathea.
It's since been cut. If the show is broadcast on the radio, you'll hear it. If you buy the CD you won't.
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Registered 20 years agoNemesis wrote:
/ticker tape ticker tape
Fact #430. DNA is present in the pub with Arthur and Ford at the start of the TV show.
Yup he's also in the Illustrated book, in a bar...
Not that he was a complete alky or anything!
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boo wrote:
Bill Door wrote:
Well the whole Krikkit thing was a bastardisation of an unused Dr Who script anyway
Whereas Dirk Gently's Detective Agency was based on a Dr Who script that did get used.
Leaps at Bill's award while distracting him with...
Bought 16 copies of the first four books when they came out in that 'four way split photo' cover version, just so I could see all four pictures at once.
City of Death is my earliest tv memory
Cracking story that was...! That fookin alien at the end of ep 1 gave me nightmares at the time. It was...squishy!
DA wrote Shada, elements of which ended up being used for Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
(actually, I must re-read the DG books - I thought the second one was superb)
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42nd...
Well DNA was a big fan and friend of Pink Floyd, I believe he played on stage with them on his 40th birthday.
Nemesis wrote:
He's also the guy who walks nekkid into the ocean, throwing green bits of paper away, and the face of Nancy Milstone Jennings in the 'CGI' about poetry.
Fact #430. DNA is present in the pub with Arthur and Ford at the start of the TV show.
/reclaims award
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/also have a signed illustrated HHG by DNA.
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pjmaybe wrote:
I'm hearing this "Douglas Adams' involvement" mantra repeated a lot.
The guy died in 2001.
Now that's what I CALL Ghost Writing...
Peej
Yeah because scripts disappear in a puff of smoke the minute someone dies.
aarghhhhh!!!
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I thought scripts got rewritten by the bloke who wrote chicken run the second someone dies?
Yeah but DNA was controlling him through the power of Dance, didn'tcha know?
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Registered 18 years agooneiros wrote:He's also the guy who walks nekkid into the ocean, throwing green bits of paper away, and the face of Nancy Milstone Jennings in the 'CGI' about poetry.
/reclaims award
Green bits of paper?
You mean 'money'.
/wonders how young some of the people on this forum are...
The cost of constructing the second of Zaphod's heads for the tv series was more than Mark Wing Davey got paid.
Gimme that award!
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My age? Old enough that being called 'young' might be considered a compliment...
This planet has - or rather had - a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy.
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boo wrote:
oneiros wrote:He's also the guy who walks nekkid into the ocean, throwing green bits of paper away, and the face of Nancy Milstone Jennings in the 'CGI' about poetry.
/reclaims award
Green bits of paper?
You mean 'money'.
/wonders how young some of the people on this forum are...
The cost of constructing the second of Zaphod's heads for the tv series was more than Mark Wing Davey got paid.
Gimme that award!
Edited by boo at 15:00:17 17-02-2005
All of the HHG graphics were hand-drawn.
Cheating gets.
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