andijames wrote:You owe the forum one picture of inside out pants on your head. So this Cell Simulator product that has been in one version or another since before the PS3 launched, won't or can't be used to run Cell Be code at playable frame-rates (on current Pc hardware or the PS4)? http://www.bsc.es/computer-sciences/programming-models/linux-cell/cell-be-sdks/sdk-31 IBM Full System SimulatorEdited by vizzini at 15:43:05 17-12-2013 |
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andijames 2,912 posts
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Registered 14 years agoSo are you saying with that simulator (or SDK) you could set up a full PS3 simulated environment to emulate the games completely?
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Registered 14 years agoSteve_Perry wrote:
In the words of the Virgin Mary
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Moot_Point 5,530 posts
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Registered 9 years agovizzini wrote:
Hmmm, I see professor. /puffs pipe
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nickthegun 87,711 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThats a disturbingly accurate approximation. -
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Registered 16 years agoSo, what we are really saying, is that vizzini is a klingon with a duff universal translator? -
andijames wrote:
The simulator pre-dates them having working Cell BE sample processors, as they needed to get to work building software for the hardware while they were still working on the Ps3 hardware.
So are you saying with that simulator (or SDK) you could set up a full PS3 simulated environment to emulate the games completely?
The simulator is the reason that Sony are able to use their acquired Gaikai to cloud emulate PS3 games in the coming year. The hUMA design of the PS4 CPU/GPU can also run the full emulator of the Cell BE and (redirect the RSX GPU calls to the PS4 GPU) and eliminate all the XDR to DDR3 transfers by just doing internal data copies within the GDDR5. Somewhere in a Sony R&D lab they will have a fully working software emulator of the PS3 running on a PS4. -
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Registered 16 years agoYep. The only logical explanation left. -
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Registered 16 years agoIts driving him quackers. -
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Registered 16 years agoI assume you meant 'duck' -
wayneh 2,599 posts
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Registered 13 years agoCan someone dumb the tech speak down? I thought Gaikai was a PS3 running in the cloud? Why would the PS4 have to do lots of complicated stuff to translate it surely all the emulation stuff is done on the server side? -
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Registered 16 years agoAll of the PS3 games on Gaikai are in fact being emulated on vizzini. -
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Registered 9 years agovizzini wrote:
andijames wrote:
The simulator pre-dates them having working Cell BE sample processors, as they needed to get to work building software for the hardware while they were still working on the Ps3 hardware.
So are you saying with that simulator (or SDK) you could set up a full PS3 simulated environment to emulate the games completely?
The simulator is the reason that Sony are able to use their acquired Gaikai to cloud emulate PS3 games in the coming year. The hUMA design of the PS4 CPU/GPU can also run the full emulator of the Cell BE and (redirect the RSX GPU calls to the PS4 GPU) and eliminate all the XDR to DDR3 transfers by just doing internal data copies within the GDDR5. Somewhere in a Sony R&D lab they will have a fully working software emulator of the PS3 running on a PS4.
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nickthegun wrote:
Doubt so, Klingons usually go on about spilling blood, cutting off heads and pride and honour and shit. Also, for some reason, they can all speak English anyway.
So, what we are really saying, is that vizzini is a klingon with a duff universal translator?
Remember Folding at Home on PS3? I think vizzini is a rogue AI generated in a similar way by a Cell network. -
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Registered 14 years ago@andijames put the kettle on Harold! -
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Registered 14 years agoHaha! One of my favourite lines from that film 
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Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agowayneh wrote:
By PS3s running in the cloud, do you mean some specialist custom servers with lots of CELL chips in? Having lots of PS3s in a rack wouldn't be the way I'd build it.
Can someone dumb the tech speak down? I thought Gaikai was a PS3 running in the cloud? Why would the PS4 have to do lots of complicated stuff to translate it surely all the emulation stuff is done on the server side?
Actually, can you get CELL based servers? I might have a look.
And I've had a look, and a company acutally made CELL based servers...
Mercury Computer Systems has a dual Cell server, a dual Cell blade configuration, a rugged computer, and a PCI Express accelerator board available in different stages of production.
http://www.mrcy.com/
Remember all the bullshit about PS3 shipments being stopped as they were being classified as military?
Well this outfit makes "aerospace and defense platforms such as ships, land-mobile vehicles and airborne platforms". Makes you wonder doesn't it.
WHEELS IN WHEELS MOTHERFUCKERS!
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