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Curious to know what people think about it. Its something I don't do. I'll quite happy to wait for the TV program to be broadcast on UK TV. As for the legality of it some people seem to think that its a grey area and others that its just as illegal as downloading other copyrighted material such as music and films. What is a bit concerning is what impact downloading might have on future broadcast TV. The broadcasters will not commission new series of programs with low advertising revenue or low audiences. What do you lot think? |
Downloading TV programs?
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ssuellid 19,142 posts
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I have no problem downloading TV series. It's the same as borrowing a tape from a mate with Sky ; you haven't paid for it but you're still seeing it.
If they're worried about advertising revenues (which I don't think should be much of a problem, it's still very much a minority thing) then they should offer streaming versions from their sites with unskippable adverts.
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jaxon58 2,555 posts
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Registered 18 years agoI do it, and consider it illegal but don't really care.
I don't do it all the time, it's usually something I can't see otherwise, the entire series of Newman and Badiel In Pieces for instance. I downloaded it from Uknova because I've never seen it repeated anywhere and I lost my VHS tapes of it years ago (also illegal).
So, if you're worried about going to hell, don't do it. Me, I think hell sounds much more fun. -
lost_soul 9,372 posts
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Registered 19 years agoI very rarely watch TV these days.
Usually, I'll find out about a good show either on here, or from friends, then go off and find a download.
Someone did explain to me that downloading TV shows isn't illegal, can't remember the reason. -
Mike_Hunt 23,524 posts
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Registered 19 years agoWell it is wrong as channels make their money by having a great number of viewers (either those viewer are paying some sort of rip-off B.S tax, or they attract advertisers), so if everyone were to watch them on their PC then the broadcasters would be losing out.
Personally I think that once a series has been aired it should become freely available (hell, they broadcast it right). I personally would refuse to pay £45 for a boxset of 24 - ffs, they just broadcast it on TV and now they want £45 to watch it? Sod that.
/fires up bit torrent
In an ideal world the programs would air at the same time across the globe and ad breaks would be much shorter. They're so long now then on the rare occasion I watch live TV I get quite frustrated.
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Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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dadrester 2,560 posts
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Registered 18 years agohmmm... well i have to say as an example i watched 24 series 2 on bbc while it was on and got so into it that i bought both series 1 and 2 on dvd. when season 3 started airing in the states i started downloading each episode week by week, and i've bought that now that it's on dvd. i'm 10 episodes into series 4 now (as i don't have sky) an i can safely say i'll be buying that on dvd too.
i reckon fox will be making more money off per person buying dvd's than from selling the liscence per person watching on tv. i might be wrong, i'm just guessing that.
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unwashed 1,857 posts
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Registered 18 years agoAt the moment the BBC are working on an open source video codex, to plug into WMP among others. The idea being that UK TV Licence payers will be able to download programs after airing (what's the betting that for months it'll only be Eastenders?) and then you can watch it as many times as you like in the following seven days.
After that, and for world wide viewers, there will be a charge to re-unlock the file.
Whether it'll happen is another thing tho'...
And yes I have downloaded TV shows, most notably Max and Paddy. But I watched it on TV, and will doubtless buy the DVD. I also downloaded the final Blackpool, but have still to watch it... -
warlockuk 19,519 posts
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Registered 17 years agoI think part of the grey area's made worse when the TV Show is released onto DVD and the TVrips make way for dvdrips...
Also, what about TV Shows that weren't really aired again or never made it to DVD, like Odyssey 5 or The Mary Whitehouse Experience?
Occurs to me, too, that I pay £40+ for SKY and don't even watch it. heh. d'oh -
silentbob 29,527 posts
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Registered 19 years agossuellid wrote:
This is an interesting connundrum someone posted on the HDTV movie group I frequent. If a TV prog can be freely recorded and replayed - can the same be true for Hi-Def movie content.
Curious to know what people think about it.
Its something I don't do. I'll quite happy to wait for the TV program to be broadcast on UK TV.
As for the legality of it some people seem to think that its a grey area and others that its just as illegal as downloading other copyrighted material such as music and films.
What is a bit concerning is what impact downloading might have on future broadcast TV. The broadcasters will not commission new series of programs with low advertising revenue or low audiences.
What do you lot think?
Obviously this has been a resounding 'yes' on VHS for years, but when the recorded content is considerably higher quality than the equivalent DVD version, you have to wonder how the Movie studios would view it. -
eviltobz 2,609 posts
Registered 18 years agoi got into downloading tv series after seeing gilmore girls being broadcast on nickleodeon over here. the states were part way through season 4 or something and we had just got the first season, and to my knowledge no uk station has picked up later seasons of it. i'm picking up the dvd sets as they become available but they are in the middle of season 5 on tv and seson 2 has only just recently been released, so yes, i'm happily downloading it all.
obviously after getting bittorrent in place to do this other things have appeared that i've started picking up. my general rule of thumb is i only download stuff if i'm not expecting it to be aired over here in a reasonable time frame, hence my not downloading smallville and point pleasant for example. except 24, because there is no way i'm going to watch that at a rate of 1 episode a week. that needs to be done in a few marathon sessions. -
Also, what about TV Shows that weren't really aired again or never made it to DVD, like Odyssey 5 or The Mary Whitehouse Experience?
That's the only reason I can think of that I would download something.
The nipper's really, really into a little animated pirate series called 'Yoho Ahoy'. It's made by the Beeb but they don't do a DVD, so I can't buy it. Hence we've got a crappy VHS tape which I'm recording them onto from the telly.
If I could download the lot and burn to DVD I'd do it in a second. I wanted to buy it, but they wouldn't sell me it. It's illegal, but what am I supposed to do? -
terminalterror 18,932 posts
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Registered 20 years agoMike_Hunt wrote:
Well it is wrong as channels make their money by having a great number of viewers (either those viewer are paying some sort of rip-off B.S tax, or they attract advertisers), so if everyone were to watch them on their PC then the broadcasters would be losing out.
Personally I think that once a series has been aired it should become freely available (hell, they broadcast it right). I personally would refuse to pay £45 for a boxset of 24 - ffs, they just broadcast it on TV and now they want £45 to watch it? Sod that.
/fires up bit torrent
In an ideal world the programs would air at the same time across the globe and ad breaks would be much shorter. They're so long now then on the rare occasion I watch live TV I get quite frustrated.
[MH]
Like eviltobz said, 24 is so much better when you can watch it all in one go or several session, or even one episode a day. Having to wait 6 months for one story to resolve is a bit annoying when every episode finishes on a cliffhanger, and you have no idea what happened last week until they show the 'previously on 24 bit'.
I'm glad that Fox at least seem to have learned that TV DVDs sell in much greater quantities at ~£20 each than at whatever they were expecting you to pay before. If only they started being a little more sensible and releasing them at say £30 and dropping to £20 permanently after x months.
My TV DVD collection is almost entirely Fox for that reason, and also they have quite a good range (I own some Futurama, Family Guy, Firefly, 24) -
terminalterror 18,932 posts
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Registered 20 years agoAs I can only use bittorrent whilst I'm not a uni, that stops me watching stuff on american broadcast schedules, but emule is great for when you miss an episode for whatever reason on TV, then you can catch up illegally and continue watching it on TV. -
ssuellid 19,142 posts
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Registered 20 years agoterminalterror wrote:
Like eviltobz said, 24 is so much better when you can watch it all in one go or several session, or even one episode a day. Having to wait 6 months for one story to resolve is a bit annoying when every episode finishes on a cliffhanger, and you have no idea what happened last week until they show the 'previously on 24 bit'.
With 24, I waited till the DVDs came out. The release date of the DVD was not too far behind the broadcast time.
If something is totally unavailable then I can understand why someone would download a copy. But if it commercially available or will be on TV in a few weeks/months then downloading it is, IMHO, not on really.
Maybe in the future the BBC and others will have all programs available to download from some online library - except for those commerically available. -
If we strictly adhered to the law and didn't download TV programmes, we wouldn't get to watch top tv like Lost.
I don't have the time to watch TV at times dictated by the schedulers, thus I like to download stuff and watch it in my own time at my own speed.
Hence why I have every episode of Lost and CSI.
I wish they didn't fucking recap so much on Lost tho. -
eviltobz 2,609 posts
Registered 18 years agossuellid wrote:
thing is, with something like 24 i find myself having to leg it out of the room, or plug my ears, shut my eyes and go "la la la" everytime a trailer comes on so as not to ruin it when i get around to watching it. this over around 24 weeks makes for some bloody irritation when trying to watch tv. and if you don't do this, it all gets spoiled. trying to keep the thread spoiler free for those who are yet to watch the series i'll just hint at things like seeing a bit from the second series with a particularly nasty character from the first before i'd got around to watching it, or seeing a trailer during the 3rd series saying that something that they were trying to avert had happened really took the edge off the surprises. downloading it will at least reduce the time i have to spend doing this as i can start watching my way through when it comes to a close in america, although admittedly, this time they are showing it pretty swiftly over here too which makes this tactic a little less useful this time around.
With 24, I waited till the DVDs came out. The release date of the DVD was not too far behind the broadcast time.
If something is totally unavailable then I can understand why someone would download a copy. But if it commercially available or will be on TV in a few weeks/months then downloading it is, IMHO, not on really.
and as mentioned earlier i have a tendancy towards buying dvd box sets when thing become available too. i have all 3 24s in my somewhat vast collection.
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terminalterror 18,932 posts
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Registered 20 years agoeviltobz wrote:
ssuellid wrote:
thing is, with something like 24 i find myself having to leg it out of the room, or plug my ears, shut my eyes and go "la la la" everytime a trailer comes on so as not to ruin it when i get around to watching it. this over around 24 weeks makes for some bloody irritation when trying to watch tv. and if you don't do this, it all gets spoiled. trying to keep the thread spoiler free for those who are yet to watch the series i'll just hint at things like seeing a bit from the second series with a particularly nasty character from the first before i'd got around to watching it, or seeing a trailer during the 3rd series saying that something that they were trying to avert had happened really took the edge off the surprises. downloading it will at least reduce the time i have to spend doing this as i can start watching my way through when it comes to a close in america, although admittedly, this time they are showing it pretty swiftly over here too which makes this tactic a little less useful this time around.
With 24, I waited till the DVDs came out. The release date of the DVD was not too far behind the broadcast time.
If something is totally unavailable then I can understand why someone would download a copy. But if it commercially available or will be on TV in a few weeks/months then downloading it is, IMHO, not on really.
and as mentioned earlier i have a tendancy towards buying dvd box sets when thing become available too. i have all 3 24s in my somewhat vast collection.
I don't have Sky, so I didn't know anything about series 3 before I bought the DVDs. \o/
I know nothing about series 4 either. I plan to buy it on DVD the moment its available for less than £20. -
eviltobz 2,609 posts
Registered 18 years agoso far i know nothing about season 4 either .gif)
helps that since the sad demise of angel and the majestic mutant enemy productions sky no longer have anything on that i actually want to watch, so dodging trailers is a whole lot easier. hurrah for e4 -
DiscoMike 570 posts
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Registered 17 years agoSince a few eps. into season 3, sky have been fairly considerate with their "24" trailers, from what i've seen.
They only include clips from the previous episode, to remind you why you are looking forward to the next episode so much. -
kdsh7 1,273 posts
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Registered 19 years agoI download LOST regularly - it would have nice to have watched it on TV but if it's not on what can I do?
The same goes for japanese anime like Naruto and Full Metal Alchemist - both of which will never be on TV over here (although I believe FMA may get an airing with an English dub on one of the cartoon channels soon) -
ssuellid 19,142 posts
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Registered 20 years agokdsh7 wrote:
I download LOST regularly - it would have nice to have watched it on TV but if it's not on what can I do?
Wait for C4 to broadcast it as they bought the rights ages ago? -
eviltobz 2,609 posts
Registered 18 years agoDiscoMike wrote:
exactly, which is fine for people who are watching it on tv as it airs, and a killer for people who are waiting til they can marathon it through quickly.
Since a few eps. into season 3, sky have been fairly considerate with their "24" trailers, from what i've seen. -
ssuellid wrote:
Wait for C4 to broadcast it as they bought the rights ages ago?
I had no idea that they had until last Sunday when I overheard it on the TV. Good on Channel4 - although I'd have preferred it on BBC2.
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