The Bill's phone system • Non-Gaming • TV • Eurogamer.net

Deleted user 25 February 2005 11:16:20

So, the phone system @ Sunhill went down after the explosion, because it was a legacy based trunk device. If they had installed a pure VOIP software application (such as the one I sell) all the system and info could easily have been mirrored to a back up server at the other police station (cant remember the name) and that server could easily be accessed remotely via VPN or LAN, and everyone could have been called in minutes by June for example, with a centrino laptop, from the middle of the car park wirelessly..... as it was there were problems with telephonic contact between people and stations.

Just thought I'd share that!

Blerk Moderator 25 Feb 2005 11:16:59 48,222 posts
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They still show 'The Bill'?

unwashed 25 Feb 2005 11:21:08 1,857 posts
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You are sooooooooooo sad. As I used to say to my mum when I was at home: It's a TV show, they're called plot devices dear...

Deleted user 25 February 2005 11:25:22

unwashed wrote:
You are sooooooooooo sad. As I used to say to my mum when I was at home: It's a TV show, they're called plot devices dear...

yeah, but I am using it as an example of the effectiveness of pure VOIP software applications....

Jetset_UK 25 Feb 2005 11:28:56 3,578 posts
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They could have just put 'call divert' onto Sunhills number to wherever. Done in 5 seconds.

Mike_Hunt 25 Feb 2005 11:29:30 23,524 posts
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Yeah, I can picture the scene now.

*Ring* *Ring*
Officer: Hello, police
Caller: Fzzzkt chuga bzzt fizzle "got a gun" btniggght
Officer: Balls.

[MH]

Edited by Mike_Hunt at 11:29:43 25-02-2005

pistol 25 Feb 2005 11:31:08 13,018 posts
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Madder Max wrote:

unwashed wrote:
You are sooooooooooo sad. As I used to say to my mum when I was at home: It's a TV show, they're called plot devices dear...

yeah, but I am using it as an example of the effectiveness of pure VOIP software applications....

You are still sad.

I bet you're a wiz at parties.. :-)

ssuellid 25 Feb 2005 11:32:26 19,142 posts
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or
*ring ring* etc etc

or
*ring ring* sorry we are rebooting our VOIP server

or

*ring ring* sorry internet conditions are affecting the QOS and we have fuck all chance of connecting you.

etc

Deleted user 25 February 2005 11:33:05

Mike_Hunt wrote:
Yeah, I can picture the scene now.

*Ring* *Ring*
Officer: Hello, police
Caller: Fzzzkt chuga bzzt fizzle "got a gun" btniggght
Officer: Balls.

[MH]

Edited by Mike_Hunt at 11:29:43 25-02-2005

If only you knew! We have just had the CEO of Cisco EMEA join the company in germany that makes this software package.

'What to Buy for Business' rated Swyx (VOIP software app)with 4 stars. The closest one to that was Cisco Call manager Express, which only gained 1 star....

Deleted user 25 February 2005 11:35:55

ssuellid wrote:
or
*ring ring* etc etc

or
*ring ring* sorry we are rebooting our VOIP server

or

*ring ring* sorry internet conditions are affecting the QOS and we have fuck all chance of connecting you.

etc

Utter utter bollocks. How come then, that I've been using this system for 1 year now for business calls etc and never experienced any break up? The Draytek 2600g routers are now VOIP enabled and the compression for voice packets is 20kps. Swyx would only have shit voice quality on dila-up. When we have our website running (which I will introduce in a thread) ring me...!

ssuellid 25 Feb 2005 11:37:04 19,142 posts
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Madder Max wrote:
Utter utter bollocks. How come then, that I've been using this system for 1 year now for business calls etc and never experienced any break up? The Draytek 2600g routers are now VOIP enabled and the compression for voice packets is 20kps. Swyx would only have shit voice quality on dila-up. When we have our website running (which I will introduce in a thread) ring me...!

Speak to Nortel and ask why they ripped out their entire worldwide VOIP system. About 6 or so years ago admittedly.

Cannot see any benefits to replacing the emergency services myself with a more complex and therefore fault prone system.

Edited by ssuellid at 11:40:33 25-02-2005

CyberClaw 25 Feb 2005 11:38:23 2,085 posts
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Psh, you kids. All I need to make a phone call is 2 plastic cups and a cord.

Deleted user 25 February 2005 11:39:04

Well you got off to a good start in keeping me interested by talking about The Bill, and then you introduced something even more interesting: VOIP!

/stops drinking sarcy saki

Deleted user 25 February 2005 11:42:52

ssuellid wrote:

Madder Max wrote:
Utter utter bollocks. How come then, that I've been using this system for 1 year now for business calls etc and never experienced any break up? The Draytek 2600g routers are now VOIP enabled and the compression for voice packets is 20kps. Swyx would only have shit voice quality on dila-up. When we have our website running (which I will introduce in a thread) ring me...!

Speak to Nortel and ask why they ripped out their entire worldwide VOIP system. About 6 or so years ago admittedly.

Cannot see any benefits to replacing the emergency services myself with a more complex and therefore fault prone system.

Edited by ssuellid at 11:40:33 25-02-2005

At a guess, because it was not truly VOIP? It was probably hardware based and incorporated trunk devices so that something as simple as just a desk move, required an engineer to be called out to re-programme the hard switch, which means massive maintenance costs.

There are loads of 'solutions' about that claim to be VOIP, but they are not.

ssuellid 25 Feb 2005 11:53:41 19,142 posts
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Just too many potential problems with VOIP for my liking - have you noticed how many VOIP system providers the backup for internet outages and DNS attacks is to switch back to the old public switched phone network? Its a good idea if you want to save money by not having to use the telcos but not for critical systems. All IMHO of course.

Deleted user 25 February 2005 12:02:33

ssuellid wrote:
Just too many potential problems with VOIP for my liking - have you noticed how many VOIP system providers the backup for internet outages and DNS attacks is to switch back to the old public switched phone network? Its a good idea if you want to save money by not having to use the telcos but not for critical systems. All IMHO of course.

yeah, but in around 18 months time, we wont need to use ISDN's as the exchanges become VOIP enabled, as BT completes its construction of the fibre-based IP network.

Skype is just voice over messenger. You cant record calls, have caller lists, call-routing @ the desktop with drag & drop functionality etc.....

The system I specialise in uses the M/S 2003 server plattform and as its a software solution, the back-up procedures are the same as data back ups. The calls recorded can be stored in any format such as WAV files etc..

Deleted user 25 February 2005 12:03:07

pistol wrote:

Madder Max wrote:

unwashed wrote:
You are sooooooooooo sad. As I used to say to my mum when I was at home: It's a TV show, they're called plot devices dear...

yeah, but I am using it as an example of the effectiveness of pure VOIP software applications....

You are still sad.

I bet you're a wiz at parties..

No I'm not. I get bored!

sam_spade 25 Feb 2005 12:03:40 15,745 posts
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Madder is t3h new KOTI.

Deleted user 25 February 2005 12:04:33

lol!

Deleted user 25 February 2005 12:07:02

sam_spade wrote:
Madder is t3h new KOTI.

Noooooooo.....!

unwashed 25 Feb 2005 13:49:03 1,857 posts
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