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  • You-can-call-me-kal 24 May 2019 11:37:25 16,705 posts
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    Need some help.

    I'm trying to connect a turntable to two different amps at the same time - one normal amp connected to speakers, and the other a specific headphone amp.

    I need some sort of RCA '1 in 2 out' splitter cable or (more likely) box that will allow me to do this. Obviously I want to avoid any sound degradation etc. And I'd prefer not to spend an absolute fortune.

    Something like this would appear to do the job, but looks a bit shit, and I'd probably prefer not to have something with its own volume control as I'd like the two amps to take care of that:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nobsound-Switcher-Passive-Selector-Splitter-Yellow/dp/B0787X4J4V/ref=pd_sbs_107_30?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07C9MZPDL&pd_rd_r=8129f077-7e0b-11e9-9ff2-d5fd6dee570d&pd_rd_w=LhkQ2&pd_rd_wg=H11St&pf_rd_p=18edf98b-139a-41ee-bb40-d725dd59d1d3&pf_rd_r=2MJWNGYXNCM96FAFVMQW&refRID=2MJWNGYXNCM96FAFVMQW&th=1

    This one looks a bit more proper, but the comments are getting into technicalities I have to admit I don't understand and that makes me worry this isn't for the job I want:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nobsound-Splitter-Switcher-Selector-Passive-1-4-OUT/dp/B077R31NYF/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_cr_simh_0_3/261-1146748-8930844?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0784JX7KF&pd_rd_r=4746afe1-ef75-4beb-b7a9-c20735590150&pd_rd_w=SpH7K&pd_rd_wg=qB3Jq&pf_rd_p=cd656a79-125c-4ac8-931f-bdf9f90841fb&pf_rd_r=B8QX27WEQWFB9HZRGEN1&refRID=B8QX27WEQWFB9HZRGEN1&th=1

    Edited by You-can-call-me-kal at 11:37:53 24-05-2019
  • Armoured_Bear 24 May 2019 11:52:31 27,334 posts
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    @You-can-call-me-kal

    Unless I'm missing something, wouldn't it be better to connect turntable to amp and connect amp (using Pre-Outs) to Headphone Amp?
  • You-can-call-me-kal 24 May 2019 11:57:36 16,705 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    @You-can-call-me-kal

    Unless I'm missing something, wouldn't it be better to connect turntable to amp and connect amp (using Pre-Outs) to Headphone Amp?
    No option to do that. The only out on the amp is speaker terminals and a subwoofer output.
  • Armoured_Bear 24 May 2019 12:00:33 27,334 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    @You-can-call-me-kal

    Unless I'm missing something, wouldn't it be better to connect turntable to amp and connect amp (using Pre-Outs) to Headphone Amp?
    No option to do that. The only out on the amp is speaker terminals and a subwoofer output.
    Pity there's no tape output or anything.
    Which amps are you using?
  • You-can-call-me-kal 24 May 2019 12:07:43 16,705 posts
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    Nevermind.
  • Armoured_Bear 24 May 2019 12:17:58 27,334 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    Nevermind.
    I'm just curious about which gear you use..
  • gamingdave 24 May 2019 13:32:28 4,818 posts
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    Don't think there is any need for anything more than a couple of these

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Arena-Single-Female-Double-Splitter/dp/B005M1LW6S/ref=sr_1_5?crid=J257V1SH27T6&keywords=phono+splitter+female+to+female&qid=1558699885&s=gateway&sprefix=phono+splitter+femal%2Caps%2C120&sr=8-5
  • Your-Mother 29 May 2019 15:52:59 2,928 posts
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    Anyone got any advice for receiver and speaker combos? Need to upgrade my budget Samsung soundbar + rear speakers into something a bit meatier and modern, but I've no idea what to look for. Budget of around $1.5-2k (around 1.5k GBP), but I'm happy to put that towards just 3.0 for now and build up to more (9.1.2 or even 11.2.6 over time) gradually - I have a really weird room layout (open plan L shape with different height ceilings) which may make more speakers difficult without running cables behind walls (especially for Atmos). The only place I have to actually go and experience things myself is a shitty Best Buy which has almost no stock, and even they tried to talk me out of a sale to upscale an 8k TV claiming newer standards will make current receivers obsolete around July, which seems like arse to me.

    The go-to speaker around here seems to be Klipsch, but receiver recommendations seem to be all over the place as far as brands go.

    Mostly going to be used for home theatre + gaming, but occasional music too. Any pointers in the right direction gratefully received.
  • nickthegun 29 May 2019 16:01:43 78,494 posts
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    https://www.richersounds.com/wireless-streaming-multiroom/sonos/sonos-beam-sub-one-x2.html


    BUDGET: ACHIEVED

    Edited by nickthegun at 16:02:27 29-05-2019
  • Your-Mother 29 May 2019 16:08:39 2,928 posts
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    Well look at that. nick knocks it out the park on the first try. Or scores a football point. Or some other sports metaphor.

    What's the tangible difference between the Beam, Playbar and Playbase? I see different packages over here.
  • nickthegun 29 May 2019 17:24:01 78,494 posts
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    The beam is newer and has voice assistants baked in, has HDMI ARC and is made for a medium sized room.

    The playbar and the playbase use the same, non-smart tech but are more beefy soundwise. The difference is the form factor (which, apparently, makes the base more... bass heavy).
  • Technoishmatt 29 May 2019 22:14:03 3,508 posts
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    I have the sonos beam attached to my TV wall mount so it follows the TV. It is very decent, bass is fine, definitely at the price for the beam on its own.

    If you go for that package you would get a subwoofer which would make up any bass difference.

    Although for that price you can get one of the atmos soundbar sets, eg Samsung Q90R, which I think would blow away the sonos set.
  • Technoishmatt 29 May 2019 22:19:17 3,508 posts
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    If you want to start to invest in proper speakers :p, but also dont want to faff with wires, you could check out the Denon Heos line. I believe there a few brands that have compatible wireless speakers.
  • Your-Mother 4 Jun 2019 23:12:32 2,928 posts
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    Iím sure youíll be thrilled to hear the update, but I found a really good offer on the Samsung N850 Atmos soundbar so went with that. Turns out my living room is absolutely perfectly designed for bouncing Atmos off the ceiling and walls.

    I tested it out with the 4K bd of Saving Private Ryan and nearly shit myself in the Omaha Beach scene.

    I did strongly consider the Sonos but realised the room is also not very well designed for physical rear speaker placement in general, and I didnít feel like rearranging the whole room.

    Edited by Your-Mother at 23:14:26 04-06-2019

    Edited by Your-Mother at 23:14:45 04-06-2019
  • greg_wha 5 Jun 2019 08:48:26 1,342 posts
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    How is your lounge perfectly designed for bouncing Atmos off the ceiling and walls? What is the criteria for judging this?
  • Your-Mother 5 Jun 2019 15:17:18 2,928 posts
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    The viewing area is effectively an oversized niche in an open plan layout, so the walls and ceiling are more solid and lower than the rest of the house. If the ceiling was higher or the walls regular drywall it would dampen the effect somewhat. At least thatís what Iíve been told, could be a load of bunk. The Atmos test stuff Iíve run through it sounds absolutely incredible though, positional sound is working perfectly so itís doing its thing.
  • greg_wha 5 Jun 2019 17:51:23 1,342 posts
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    Ah, I see. Iím looking for a new audio setup in a cellar with stone walls and 6 and a half foot ceiling so Iíll have to look into that.
  • beastmaster 31 Jul 2019 23:27:55 19,386 posts
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    Anyone ever tried Grado GR10E In Ear Headphones? I've had a pair of SR80i headphones and think they're utterly superb. The GR10E are...gulp!...a tad pricey.
  • freddymercurystwin 1 Aug 2019 11:02:53 1,726 posts
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    beastmaster wrote:
    Anyone ever tried Grado GR10E In Ear Headphones? I've had a pair of SR80i headphones and think they're utterly superb. The GR10E are...gulp!...a tad pricey.
    WTF! A bit pricey you say?
  • You-can-call-me-kal 19 Aug 2019 07:55:50 16,705 posts
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    What websites/communities/publications do you lot use for your audiophile needs?

    Iíve always been a headphone guy so Head-Fi is my go to, but Iím starting to branch out into the scary world of Ďproperí gear an could do with a source. Ideally not one that overly focuses on £1m cartridges and such...
  • fontgeeksogood 19 Aug 2019 08:01:37 6,737 posts
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    Audiophile websites?!! You people sicken me
  • gamingdave 19 Aug 2019 10:16:28 4,818 posts
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    My interest has always been more home cinema than pure hi-fi, so my amps and speakers have always been AV focussed. Good speakers are good speakers regardless of application though, and I have always been more than happy with the sound quality from higher end AV amps in direct mode (stereo with minimal alteration in the signal path) for music.

    If I am looking for reviews or owners threads, I always head to AVForums

    My main setup comprises 5 Acoustic Energy speakers I bought 20 years ago, and they still sound lovely, paired with a ridiculous sub. Now using a Denon AV amp, but had a few Yamahas, one of which is now in the bedroom with some Monitor Audio standmounts. Vinyl (Technics 1210s) and digital in the living room, streaming in the bedroom and sometimes plug in my Fiio X7ii.

    As you know from Head-Fi, the laws of diminishing returns kick in quite quickly, and opinions on the internet need to be taken with a pinch of salt, and context.

    I always say the sensible thing is to set a budget, do some searches of the well known brands, and see whats out there and hunt for reviews. Narrow down to a few you can demo in the same space then go and have a listen and let your ears decide.

    At least thats true for amps and speakers. Speakers may bring a bit of colouration, but an amp should really just be amplifying a signal without touching it, so as long as they are balanced in terms of power, you should be good.

    Vinyl on the other hand is a bit more complex, and the balance of cartridge and turntable does require some thought, but not too much. Setting it up right and proper speaker placement is far more important at the end of the day.

    And that brings us on to the most important part, the source. If you want to fall into a rabbit hole of which pressing of a CD or record to buy, you can spend an age reading here
  • You-can-call-me-kal 19 Aug 2019 12:11:04 16,705 posts
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    Thanks. Iíve got a pretty decent set up for now. Iím more just interested in educating myself and staying up to date with whatís out there. I do have a more long term agenda to significantly upgrade my turntable but not for sometime. But yes, Iím already deep into the vinyl rabbit hole and all that goes with it.
  • Rivuzu 19 Aug 2019 12:19:01 18,203 posts
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    Anyone with any experience with AfterShokz "Bone Conduction" headphones?

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/AfterShokz-Conduction-Bluetooth-Headphones-Microphone-grey/dp/B018XNGQOE/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=aftershokz&qid=1566213462&s=gateway&sr=8-6

    I'm a little tempted to pick up a pair but don't really know what I'm in for. I'm finding overears in the heat and commute too much, and hate putting buds in my ear, so is this a feasible solution?
  • uiruki 19 Aug 2019 12:32:43 4,899 posts
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    I havenít used them myself but Techmoan did a pretty decent review. Not sure how good theyíd be for commuting given the lack of isolation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a27T7ldoLdE

    I think at this point you maybe have another month tops of real heat left so it might be worth just trying to stick it out and look perhaps at some on-ear sets for next year. Theyíll still heat your ears up but not as much as over-ear ones.

    Edited by uiruki at 12:33:16 19-08-2019
  • Armoured_Bear 19 Aug 2019 21:24:26 27,334 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    What websites/communities/publications do you lot use for your audiophile needs?

    Iíve always been a headphone guy so Head-Fi is my go to, but Iím starting to branch out into the scary world of Ďproperí gear an could do with a source. Ideally not one that overly focuses on £1m cartridges and such...
    Steve Hoffman

    Pinkfish Media

    Audiogon

    HifiWigwam

    Audiokarma
  • You-can-call-me-kal 20 Aug 2019 07:17:22 16,705 posts
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    👍
  • You-can-call-me-kal 20 Aug 2019 07:19:19 16,705 posts
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    Anything that isnít a forum?
  • nickthegun 20 Aug 2019 08:22:52 78,494 posts
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    I can't imagine the market is big enough to keep an actual web site going.

    That said when I've been looking for reviews of lower end stuff, skynet always starts dumping a load of really good enthusiast review channels into my YouTube recommendations. Try putting in the name of a bit of kit in there and see what turns up.
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