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Clicky Am I missing something fundamental here? What is the o-ah with 3G radio? Any half decent phone has a built in radio anyway... |
What is the point? 3G Radio
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Lutz 48,870 posts
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IMO 3G is a test system from both a marketing and technical point of view, which wont last. G4 is already on the cards as far as I am aware and Wimax will be the next 'standard'..... -
Ginger 7,256 posts
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it doesn't work and won't be ready for another few years at least.
Max, if you persist with your negative campaigning I'm gonna have to take you outside and give you a hiding
this is a bit early to be honest, but as data rates come down you'll be able to subscribe to a radio station for a couple of quid a month - much like sky etc.
4G is only a testbed at the minute, and won't get out of Uni's for another few years. See the register for reports of Siemens 1Gig wireless connection. -
Lutz 48,870 posts
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Registered 18 years agoGinger wrote:
So I can subscribe to a 3G radio for "a couple of quid a month" OR I can get a phone with a radio built in and listen for free?
this is a bit early to be honest, but as data rates come down you'll be able to subscribe to a radio station for a couple of quid a month - much like sky etc. -
Machiavel 5,964 posts
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Registered 19 years agoIt's a hilarious press release - reminds me of that great Onion article where it proudly reported that a $3,000 computer could now stream television almost as nicely as a $50 portable telly.
Can you imagine paying the Gb rate to listen to Virgin Radio's adverts?.gif)
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Ginger 7,256 posts
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Registered 19 years agoLutz wrote:
Yeah, but some radio stations will shift to the subscription model I guess. Like providing Kiss/XfM outside of London for example.
Ginger wrote:
So I can subscribe to a 3G radio for "a couple of quid a month" OR I can get a phone with a radio built in and listen for free?
this is a bit early to be honest, but as data rates come down you'll be able to subscribe to a radio station for a couple of quid a month - much like sky etc. -
Ginger 7,256 posts
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Registered 19 years agorhythm wrote:
in your pocket?
Ginger wrote:
Yeah, but some radio stations will shift to the subscription model I guess. Like providing Kiss/XfM outside of London for example.
I have a subscription-free Sky digibox and already get these stations. Like Lutz says, I can't see the point.
DAB radios are already getting cheap and small enough to be more commonplace and their stations are free too. I only give it a few months before we start seeing DAB phones.
I've not heard anything about this in the works, but it would be interesting. It'd put the price of the phone up by about £100 though at the minute, so maybe when it's a bit cheaper
weeelllll, can't exactly disagree with this...
The whole 3G thing has been an absolute farce - it's been an excercise in "because we can" rather than "because you need/want it" -
ssuellid 19,142 posts
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Registered 20 years agorhythm wrote:
The whole 3G thing has been an absolute farce - it's been an excercise in "because we can" rather than "because you need/want it"
People said the same thing when phones changed from analogue to 2G GSM. -
Tiger_Walts 16,674 posts
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Registered 19 years agoI'd love to have Radio 6 on the move but current pocket digital radios are being sold at an extortionate price. Note to radio manufacturers, it's not new tech anymore, stop milking it. -
Ginger 7,256 posts
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Registered 19 years agoAlso, there are certain restrictions on how companies are allowed to provide their information. E.g. BT aren't currently allowed to provide TV over the phone, so this may be a mechanism for companies to get into the radio business that they aren't currently in because of competition laws.
Just a thought, like. -
Ginger 7,256 posts
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Registered 19 years agorhythm wrote:
Not sure I understand. I was proposing that Xfm would use this radio over your phone to get outside of existing (london only) coverage.
No, Sky doesn't give me the radio in my pocket, but how would they deal with subs for portable only radio?
And small personal DAB radios are down to under £70 - surely integrating them into a phone would only add £50?
not that easy. there are self interference issues, space issues, power consumption issues and so on and so forth. Not my area of expertise though.
Edited by Ginger at 10:15:23 07-03-2005 -
Lutz 48,870 posts
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Registered 18 years agoGinger wrote:
in your pocket?
Yes. My phone has an FM radio on it. -
"Max, if you persist with your negative campaigning I'm gonna have to take you outside and give you a hiding "
LOL! Well...it IS Monday morning after all...! -
Ginger wrote:
Also, there are certain restrictions on how companies are allowed to provide their information. E.g. BT aren't currently allowed to provide TV over the phone, so this may be a mechanism for companies to get into the radio business that they aren't currently in because of competition laws.
Just a thought, like.
Ahem! The...er....VOIP software application I deal with will soon have video-phone functionality....;0P -
Ginger 7,256 posts
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Registered 19 years agoLutz wrote:
XfM. OUTSIDE London.
Ginger wrote:
in your pocket?
Yes. My phone has an FM radio on it.
Us out in the burbs don't have it on FM, AM, LW or any other kind of wave. So it's a new way to give a local radio statoin national coverage.
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Lutz 48,870 posts
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Registered 18 years agoGinger wrote:
Yes, and as I wrote (And then had to delete due to a stalking boss) who in their right mind would pay to listen to one FM radio station when there's plenty of your own local ones, and plenty national FM stations too?
XfM. OUTSIDE London.
Us out in the burbs don't have it on FM, AM, LW or any other kind of wave. So it's a new way to give a local radio statoin national coverage.
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ssuellid 19,142 posts
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Registered 20 years agoAnalogue and DAB are also pretty crap in 'noisey' environments. Being able to listen to any radio station in the world on a mobile phone sounds quite good to me. -
Lutz 48,870 posts
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Registered 18 years agossuellid wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but I really don't see the point...
Analogue and DAB are also pretty crap in 'noisey' environments. Being able to listen to any radio station in the world on a mobile phone sounds quite good to me. -
Ginger 7,256 posts
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Registered 19 years agossuellid wrote:
Um, to be fair you already can. it's perfectly possible to find an internet stream of a radio station and then listen to the low rate version over GPRS. Expensive, and not great quality, but possible
Analogue and DAB are also pretty crap in 'noisey' environments. Being able to listen to any radio station in the world on a mobile phone sounds quite good to me.
If the station has an IP stream of course. -
Ginger 7,256 posts
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Registered 19 years agoLutz wrote:
Have you listened to local radio outside of London?
Ginger wrote:
Yes, and as I wrote (And then had to delete due to a stalking boss) who in their right mind would pay to listen to one FM radio station when there's plenty of your own local ones, and plenty national FM stations too?
XfM. OUTSIDE London.
Us out in the burbs don't have it on FM, AM, LW or any other kind of wave. So it's a new way to give a local radio statoin national coverage.
/bangs head against the nearest brick wall
Down where I am (salisbury) it's shite. Unadulterated, pisspoor shite. I'd gladly have the option of any local radio station - at least the good ones... -
ssuellid 19,142 posts
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Registered 20 years agoI did not bother to mention that for the reasons you stated. GPRS radio is a pointless waste of time. -
Lutz 48,870 posts
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Registered 18 years agoGinger wrote:
OK, I'm in Manchester so I'm presuming I've got fairly good radio stations too... but still... I really don't see the point. Especially when you add in the MP3 effect...
Have you listened to local radio outside of London?
Down where I am (salisbury) it's shite. Unadulterated, pisspoor shite. I'd gladly have the option of any local radio station - at least the good ones... -
Ginger 7,256 posts
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Registered 19 years agoIt's a fair point Lutzie. Horses for courses and all that.
I guess you won't be alone in not signing up to be honest. I imagine the BBC will look at this with interest, as will the radio stations I just mentioned, but it doesn't mean jack without cheap data tariffs on 2G and 3G systems.
edit: don't bother. google just chucks up junk.
Edited by Ginger at 14:08:30 07-03-2005 -
/Hugs his Ngage with radio/MP3 player
I've always thought that streaming internet radio is a Good Idea. The only thing I'd have against it is paying extortionate rates for the data transfer required
I didn't know radio was supposed to be that common on mobiles; I know certain ones have offered it for a while, but as an exampole both my sisters-in-laws' new phones lack that feature. And MP3, come to think of it. -
Really? Thought yours did, Rhy. Can do bloody everything else ;D
I must admit that even though I was unsure about it almost to the moment of it arriving, my Ngage has altered what I expect from a smartphone. Whereas perviously I would've been reasonably happy with a phone with a good interface and perhaps Java games, it's going to have to be far closer to a CE/Symbian PDA to get my attention now.
3G is the equivalent of broadband for a smartphone but they're going to be sorely disapointed if they think they're going to get a revenue stream from me for extra services, and I'd expect my bandwidth to be very cheap before I entertain the idea of streaming media over it. On 2G it can end up being quite expensive to do even simple browsing (with pictures turned OFF) is there's a lot of code hidden in the page. -
it doesn't work and won't be ready for another few years at least..gif)
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