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iCloud: Are your personal pics safe? • Page 4
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Rivuzu 18,424 posts
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Registered 15 years agoClassic japrudeski -
I bet it was a hack - as in - somebody guessed her password hack. -
iancognito 2,476 posts
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Registered 14 years agoI've never thought of online storage as being completely safe anyway. Am I really smart enough to have a great password that can't be hacked, never get phished, not end up using a site with a fundamental flaw in the security system, etc? In that respect I'm surprised that so many people trust it, particularly when they're famous and know it's happened before. But yes, it is a massive invasion of privacy. -
Tonka 31,979 posts
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Registered 18 years agoCosmicFuzz wrote:
I'm pretty sure it says that Apple (and any other company dealing with images) are free to do whatever they want with them. They have to after all, otherwise people could sue them for sending their copyrighted material left right and center.
I don't think having your pics up on icloud is the same as giving Apple permission to look at them, Tonka.
There's a different between something being allowed and something being easily done.
I'm not saying they have an internal policy saying "Help yourself to some images if you please". Just that people in these companies have access to them and that they are people.
It is established that this kind of snooping is going on in the NSA. I have no doubt that it's happening every now and then in other places too. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if someone put nude pics of hot celeb on a thumb drive or uploaded them to his own Dropbox or whatever.
I'd be more surprised if it didn't happen.
We have the Path scandal where they helped themselves to their users entire adress books. I have shown that by just installing snapchat you grant them permission to all your media files on your device and/or external storage.
Dropbox got in a shit storm for posting that the millionth upload (or whatever) was a cat picture.
They can access your files
You have given them permission to access your files
We know for a fact that this is being abused at the NSA
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Your Dropbox can be hacked, your flickr account can be hacked, your google, apple,facebook,twitter, yadda yadda yadda can be hacked -
Fab4 8,924 posts
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Registered 15 years agoiancognito wrote:
You don't have to be smart to have a great password. You just have to get a password generator.
I've never thought of online storage as being completely safe anyway. Am I really smart enough to have a great password that can't be hacked, never get phished, not end up using a site with a fundamental flaw in the security system, etc? In that respect I'm surprised that so many people trust it, particularly when they're famous and know it's happened before. But yes, it is a massive invasion of privacy. -
THFourteen 54,987 posts
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Registered 16 years agoWhich gets down to the crux of the matter, don't use any sort of cloud service for anything you wouldn't want someone else to see.
And yes i know people will say "oh but its icloud people don't realise its uploading without their knowledge" but unfortunately the age we live in, its like a caveman getting eaten by a tyranasaurus rex and then claiming "oh but i didn't know his teeth were pointy" -
PearOfAnguish 7,573 posts
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Registered 17 years agoYeah, don't trust any storage medium unless it's in your possession. If you're uploading stuff you don't want other people to see to any remote storage, assume it's accessible to someone and encrypt that shit before you do it. -
Rivuzu 18,424 posts
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Registered 15 years agoTonka wrote:
/Secret Snowden
I have shown that... -
RyanDS 14,073 posts
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Registered 13 years agoTHFourteen wrote:
Cave men and the T. rex are separated by about 65 millions years. I wouldn't blame the caveman for being ignorant.
Which gets down to the crux of the matter, don't use any sort of cloud service for anything you wouldn't want someone else to see.
And yes i know people will say "oh but its icloud people don't realise its uploading without their knowledge" but unfortunately the age we live in, its like a caveman getting eaten by a tyranasaurus rex and then claiming "oh but i didn't know his teeth were pointy" -
THFourteen wrote:
That's like saying "don't own nice things unless you want someone to rob you".
Which gets down to the crux of the matter, don't use any sort of cloud service for anything you wouldn't want someone else to see.
That isn't the crux of the matter. It's a way of avoiding the issue, but not the solution to it. -
Fake_Blood 11,093 posts
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Registered 12 years agoAll this thanks to technology and science.
I love you internet, don't ever change. -
THFourteen 54,987 posts
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Registered 16 years agoYou can own nice things, and keep them at home / use them at work or commuting and you'll be fine. But take them someplace dodgy and you are asking to be robbed. Sure the robber is technically the criminal, but you are the idiot.
Similarly you can take nudey pictures and keep them at home / on your hard drive. But if you put them on the cloud, the hacker is technically the criminal, but you are the idiot.
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/209487820137059215/ -
Fab4 8,924 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI remember once, there was a thread on Xbox general forums that asked people what they called their first pet. It was frightening that so many people didn't realise it correlated with a Hotmail security question at the time. -
THFourteen wrote:
Where your analogy falls down is that cloud storage is supposed to be safe and secure. That's a large part of the reason it actually exists in the first place.
You can own nice things, and keep them at home / use them at work or commuting and you'll be fine. But take them someplace dodgy and you are asking to be robbed. Sure the robber is technically the criminal, but you are the idiot.
Similarly you can take nudey pictures and keep them at home / on your hard drive. But if you put them on the cloud, the hacker is technically the criminal, but you are the idiot.
Cloud storage is an important future tech, an essential one in fact, and things like this are issues that have to get ironed out on the way to that future. Cloud storage should be the same as putting money in a bank as opposed to under your mattress, and eventually it will be. Honestly it's not that far from it now. -
iancognito 2,476 posts
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Registered 14 years agoAs companies are pushing cloud storage more, there's a certain responsibility for them to help keep it safe and secure. -
Tonka 31,979 posts
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Registered 18 years agorivuzu wrote:
DAMMIT!
Tonka wrote:
/Secret Snowden
I have shown that...
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Fab4 8,924 posts
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Registered 15 years agoYou need encrypted cloud storage and localised decryption. -
The main plus points of cloud storage is that you can use it anywhere on any device, and of course you're also freeing up space on your computer/smartphone/whatever. Never really heard anybody talking about how secure it all is. -
THFourteen 54,987 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThe problem is that with a bank, there is something tangible that you have given to the care of the bank, and if they lose it, they have to make good (unless they go bust of course).
With nudey photos, they are not really a tangible, if Dropbox get hacked what more can they do but go "shit erm change your password guys". I'd be shocked if anyone with exposed photos sees any compensation apart from maybe one of the high profile celebs. -
PearOfAnguish 7,573 posts
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Registered 17 years agoPhysically_Insane wrote:
The other main plus point is that we get to see some celebrity boobies.
The main plus points of cloud storage is that you can use it anywhere on any device, and of course you're also freeing up space on your computer/smartphone/whatever. Never really heard anybody talking about how secure it all is. -
iancognito 2,476 posts
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Registered 14 years agoTHFourteen wrote:
Most of my money isn't tangible. It's all numbers in a database these days.
The problem is that with a bank, there is something tangible that you have given to the care of the bank, and if they lose it, they have to make good (unless they go bust of course).
With nudey photos, they are not really a tangible, if Dropbox get hacked what more can they do but go "shit erm change your password guys". I'd be shocked if anyone with exposed photos sees any compensation apart from maybe one of the high profile celebs. -
Ever decreasing numbers at that. -
brokenkey 11,128 posts
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Registered 20 years ago@Fab4 Or those "what's your porn name - take your date of birth, and add your first streetname!" -
So about these pointy t-Rex teeth, what can I do to secure myself against these? -
Physically_Insane wrote:
Certainly from a business point of view secure cloud storage is becoming increasingly essential for a lot of companies.
The main plus points of cloud storage is that you can use it anywhere on any device, and of course you're also freeing up space on your computer/smartphone/whatever. Never really heard anybody talking about how secure it all is. -
MrWorf 64,187 posts
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Registered 20 years agobrokenkey wrote:
Always baffled me how people could be so gullible.
@Fab4 Or those "what's your porn name - take your date of birth, and add your first streetname!" -
Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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THFourteen wrote:
Money is no more tangible than an image. Both have physical and digital forms.
The problem is that with a bank, there is something tangible that you have given to the care of the bank, and if they lose it, they have to make good (unless they go bust of course).
With nudey photos, they are not really a tangible, if Dropbox get hacked what more can they do but go "shit erm change your password guys". I'd be shocked if anyone with exposed photos sees any compensation apart from maybe one of the high profile celebs.
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