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The gaming press is corrupt • Page 2
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beastmaster 22,373 posts
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sega 908 posts
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Registered 14 years agoIf there is any corruption, all it is going to result in is shoddy journalism. There's shoddy journalism everywhere. The problem with games is it's all just a bit pathetic and the main problem is the gamers who will just lap anything up, pre-order, accept DRM, loyally follow a brand, buy exploitive DLC, embrace micro transactions etc.
Just don't read the sites you don't like. I enjoy film, but if a critic praises a Smurf movie over the latest Tarantino film, I'm just not going to take the opinion seriously and go elsewhere. It's that simple. -
Hey, it could be the Smurf equivalent of Citizen Kane and you'd miss out. -
sega 908 posts
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Registered 14 years agoI'm willing to take that chance. -
Dr.Haggard 4,640 posts
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Registered 18 years agoMrTomFTW wrote:
Citizen Cyan?
Hey, it could be the Smurf equivalent of Citizen Kane and you'd miss out. -
Wait... What if the latest Smurfs movie is also the latest Tarrantino movie? WHAT THEN?
WHAT
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Oh-Bollox 6,513 posts
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Registered 14 years agoI'm fairly sure I read a piece once about a journo knocking back a prostitute, paid for by Activision. -
CosmicFuzz 32,632 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI'm pretty sure that came from your fantasy of 'a day in the life of a games journalist'.
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No... Wait. I read something earlier today that alleged something similar to that. I wonder if I can find it again. -
Yeah, here we go. Not a great article but there we go:
Gamersgate: STFU by Greg Costikyan
2. The party given by an industry marketing firm where I and Dan Scherlis were approached by a scantily clad woman who was evidently hired to show their clients a good time (not necessarily including actual fornication) and had to explain that we were both involved with people we cared about, and actually were having a perfectly enjoyable time talking to each other.
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super-s1 wrote:
I don't know if that's corruption or just plain being shite.
howaboutthis wrote:
Agree, and IGN giving everything 9 or 10 is a bit of a giveaway as well.
Who cares if it's corrupt? Not as if it's on important world events, they're just wordy advertisements for toys. I don't ever remember a preview of a game being anything other than 'It will be great'. -
rubthisway 481 posts
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Registered 14 years ago@Retroid But commenters get so angry if "their" game only gets an 8. Who wants that. -
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CosmicFuzz 32,632 posts
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Registered 15 years agoMrTomFTW wrote:
Good Lord.
Yeah, here we go. Not a great article but there we go:
Gamersgate: STFU by Greg Costikyan
2. The party given by an industry marketing firm where I and Dan Scherlis were approached by a scantily clad woman who was evidently hired to show their clients a good time (not necessarily including actual fornication) and had to explain that we were both involved with people we cared about, and actually were having a perfectly enjoyable time talking to each other.
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GiarcYekrub 4,760 posts
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Registered 15 years agoSo if they were single, it would of been OK for them to have a "good time" on the marketing firms tab? -
Oh-Bollox 6,513 posts
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Registered 14 years agoCosmicFuzz wrote:
I wasn't even thinking of that one, actually. I was thinking of a different incident, that was in a games magazine in Benelux in 2001-2002. Fucked if I can remember who it was. He wasn't the only one to knock it back, but there were several others who accepted.
MrTomFTW wrote:
Good Lord.
Yeah, here we go. Not a great article but there we go:
Gamersgate: STFU by Greg Costikyan
2. The party given by an industry marketing firm where I and Dan Scherlis were approached by a scantily clad woman who was evidently hired to show their clients a good time (not necessarily including actual fornication) and had to explain that we were both involved with people we cared about, and actually were having a perfectly enjoyable time talking to each other.
Here's the chap.
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minky-kong 14,787 posts
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Registered 13 years ago2. The party given by an industry marketing firm where I and Dan Scherlis were approached by a scantily clad woman who was evidently hired to show their clients a good time (not necessarily including actual fornication) and had to explain that we were both involved with people we cared about, and actually were having a perfectly enjoyable time talking to each other.
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Dr.Haggard wrote:
/stands up
MrTomFTW wrote:
Citizen Cyan?
Hey, it could be the Smurf equivalent of Citizen Kane and you'd miss out.
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Tonka 31,979 posts
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Registered 18 years agoI'll just leave this here
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sega 908 posts
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Registered 14 years agoOh there is a corruption in games journalism thread and I've posted in it.
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Tonka 31,979 posts
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Registered 18 years agoIt's, appeasement, irrefutable proof that DARPA is funding the enforcement of neo feminist agendas onto videogames.
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Well, apparently, some people working in games-related stuff know other people in games-related stuff, which proves that everything anyone working in games-related stuff does is corrupt. Or has been taken over by feminists. Or both. Yeah - both; that sounds good. -
Tonka wrote:
hehehe it's that livestream thing again!
It's, appeasement, irrefutable proof that DARPA is funding the enforcement of neo feminist agendas onto videogames.
I shit you not.
DON'T INTERRUPT ME
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TPReview 1,380 posts
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Registered 9 years agoJust to throw in my two cents's worth (as a lowly blogger who gets very few hits compared to most of these sites). I have never had negative feedback from a publisher for slating their games (and it hasn't prevented them from sending future review copies) and I have never been offered money or anything else in exchange for a more positive review. Occasionally marketing companies will say 'If you write about this trailer we'll give you £50' but that's fairly rare and if you say no because you don't like that game they don't really mind.
In terms of the bigger sites I did some work with IGN and in all my time meeting with them I really got the sense that they are not paid by publishers for positive reviews. The marketing department and editorial department don't collaborate in that way. I can understand how it appears that way in some cases but I don't think it happens very often, if at all in some of the larger outlets. The journalists there have a lot of integrity and have to spend a lot of time agonising over impartiality.
It's true that at press events you get a bunch of free stuff and drinks and food etc, but at no point is there any kind of suggestion that it is in exchange for a positive write up. I think media and pr types just like the lifestyle and there's clearly the money for it.
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Syrette 51,181 posts
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nickthegun 87,711 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThe Toilet Paper review is the first tab I open in the morning. -
PearOfAnguish 7,573 posts
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Registered 17 years agoYour site is probably too small for them to care when it comes to negative reviews. PR wonks are largely concerned about the big publications because they can be responsible for influencing a huge audience.
I've never witnessed direct offers of cash/freebies for reviews but heard enough stories from people who have to believe it. It's a bit old fashioned though (go back to the 90s and early 00s for the juiciest stuff like prostitutes being hired and games mag staff being taken shopping on a PR company card), now they generally go for the subtler methods of "give us a bad review and it's no more ads or review code" or "you can have earlier review code of hotly anticipated game A if you agree to review awful shovelware game B" with the implication that it won't happen without a positive review of whatever pile of crap they're being pressured to promote at that time.
but I don't think it happens very often, if at all in some of the larger outlets.
How very optimistic of you.
It's true that at press events you get a bunch of free stuff and drinks and food etc, but at no point is there any kind of suggestion that it is in exchange for a positive write up. I think media and pr types just like the lifestyle and there's clearly the money for it.
Of course it's not ever said, but they don't just do these things because of the "lifestyle". It's good PR. There is a reason why many games now have "review events" where instead of being sent review code the press get shipped off to a nice location and loaded with food and booze while 'reviewing' the latest AAA spectacle. Some outfits - such as EG and RPS - have come out against this practice and refuse to get involved, but I think you'll find plenty of the big players are happy to get right in there.
Edited by PearOfAnguish at 15:59:26 29-09-2014 -
bad09 wrote:
Haha. Suuuure.
(hence the whole gamergate thing not actually being sexism)
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