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I was aware optical sensors are never much cop, and the one in the Apple Watch doesn't impress me at all. Seems to give inconsistent results, not in the measurements it gives, more when it can be bothered to actually work. Too often the numbers are greyed out meaning it's not reading at all. Dunno whether this can be fixed with a software update, possibly. Does seem easily effected by sweat though, like I say, needs a wipe down every 20-30 minutes doing cardio. Which is great for a product designed to track your hr when your likely sweaty as hell, heh. Heard mixed results about the gps tracking too, supposedly can take advantage of your phones gps if you carry that also. Read a few people comparing it to existing products, it either over or under compensated it seems. This assumes the existing product they compared it with is any good, but I get the impression they were superior, established tracking tools they were comparing it with. Much of the fitness tracking does seem a bit Fisher Price tbh, I think of it largely as a souped up, glorified pedometer. Which is enough for me really, assuming the results it delivers are consistent in their accuracy/inaccuracy. The software and rings mechanic is nice at least, can definitely see it encouraging people to be less sedentary. Edited by yegon at 21:59:14 01-06-2015 |
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Registered 17 years agoHey up!
I'm looking to do outdoor things and would like a decent sports watch with heart monitor, altimeter etc. Look to spend about £250.
Is the Suunto Armbit any good? Any alternatives?
Thanks.
Edit: Not Apple Watch but not worth starting a thread
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Registered 18 years agobeastmaster wrote:
This forum might be of use to you;
Hey up!
I'm looking to do outdoor things and would like a decent sports watch with heart monitor, altimeter etc. Look to spend about £250.
Is the Suunto Armbit any good? Any alternatives?
Thanks.
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Registered 17 years agoyegon wrote:
Very. Thanks!
beastmaster wrote:
This forum might be of use to you;
Hey up!
I'm looking to do outdoor things and would like a decent sports watch with heart monitor, altimeter etc. Look to spend about £250.
Is the Suunto Armbit any good? Any alternatives?
Thanks.
Edit: Not Apple Watch but not worth starting a thread
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Tonka 31,980 posts
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Registered 18 years agoApple have very cleverly played on peoples assumption that it's enough to buy a first gen apple product to be an early adopter.
So by sporting apples smart watch you're not only showing your love for apple, you're also saying "Hey, look at me. I know tech" -
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Registered 18 years agoI was expecting some as yet unheard insight in that article, but, err...Much of it is bleeding obvious i.e. it's overpriced and skip the first gen, which I agree is a valid argument for most people, but isn't that true for most gadgets? Good grief.
The argument against the battery is a bit poor though, so long as you're all in charging it every night it easily lasts a day. Sure, not ideal, but it's clearly implying it often lasts less than that, which suggests to me the writer hasn't even used an Apple Watch. The only scenario where I predict the battery lasting less than a day is if you use the activity app (with the heart monitor constantly polling your wrist) for 3 or 4 hours plus. I regularly use the activity app for 90 minutes-2 hours and still have about 30% battery left at bedtime. I've got the 38mm version too, the 42mm has better battery life.
Oh yeah, plus it mentions bendgate. The absolute silence that has ensued beyond the first week or two of that "scandal" says it all about the authors initial stance on Apple and a love for clickbait garbage.
Not even defending the Apple Watch, read my previous posts, I clearly say it's use case is very narrow and I actually wouldn't recommend it to most people. Articles like that though, christ, ill researched and stating the obvious.
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Registered 10 years ago@Dirtbox You can make the case to wait for Apple Watch 2, but this article does not. It is shoddily put together click-bait.
A few examples:
[...] it’s disappointing that this watch’s battery is only good for 18. If you use the watch heavily, it will last even shorter still. [...] You’re either charging on the go [...] or dealing with a dead device attached to your body. Useless.
Or you could do what 99.9% of owners do: charge it overnight. And from what I've read, for the vast majority of people, the battery lasts all day.
[...] the infamous #bendgate issues [...]
The issue that magically disappeared shortly after launch?
[...] it’s been releasing better versions of the same thing the following year that are lightly tweaked [...] the next version of the watch will be way better.
So what is it now, "lightly tweaked" or "way better"? And the argument to "wait another year" could be made each year. When is the right year to buy?
Consider the drastic differences between the original iPhone and the model that came right after it, the iPhone 3G.
The iPhone 3G had the same specs except for the 3G antenna and replaced the aluminium case with a plastic one.
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Registered 14 years agoDidnt apple sell as many watches in one week than android wear has sold in its whole lifetime?
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Registered 16 years agoApple wipe their arse on a million quid.
Pretty much everyone I've spoken to predicted it too, rushing apps out purely for PR purposes, knowing they were being sent out to die.
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Registered 14 years agoAll thats great but when Apple watch 2 comes out the masses will again swarm in their numbers.
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Registered 16 years agoThe thing is, they made a good habit of taking things people already liked, refining it and making it pretty.
They took the MP3 player and gave us the iPod. They took the smart phone and gave us the iPhone.
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Registered 16 years agoAnd there's the basic fact that it's almost laughably too expensive.
If you halve the price, it would still be one of the most expensive smart watches on the market. -
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Registered 14 years agoAgain thats all very nice but Apple have billions of cash reserves and the most loyal customer base on the planet.
They could do fuck all for the next 10 years and still be the richest company in the world.
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Registered 16 years agoApple being rich doesn't stop it from being doomed.
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Registered 18 years agoI would be very surprised if apple abandoned their smart watch adventure without at least releasing a second version.
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Registered 14 years agoIm not defending Apple at all; I've never even bought an apple product.
However the average joe sees their products as desirable, easy to use and they are hooked into their eco system.
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Registered 14 years agoDirtbox wrote:
Do you really think Apple care about any of that?
Their entire strategy is flawed, from the design and price to the apps and usage model. They're copying too much from everyone else and offering nothing significantly better or more useful. It needs to go back to the drawing board as it's a failure in every respect. The only reason it's selling is because people are idiots.
Their target market is the mainstream majority who dont care, or more likely, dont know they are copying everyone else.
The majority just want the phone that their favourite celeb is holding which 9 times out of 10 is an iphone. -
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Registered 14 years agoTarickStonefire wrote:
I was replying to DB mainly.
ibenam wrote:
I thought nick was more focussed on pointing out that the watch is crap. Not that Apple is doomed.
Im not defending Apple at all; I've never even bought an apple product.
However the average joe sees their products as desirable, easy to use and they are hooked into their eco system.
Until something cataclysmic happens to one or a number of those elements Apple will continue to make billions.
The watch is probably crap but then again i dont see the point of the whole smartwatch industry.
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What product would you class as a failure in the last 10 years?
ibenam wrote:
wtf are you banging on about, Apple has a long and varied history of failed products. They've got more hardware abortions in their warehouses than Job's dead hookers.
Apple is a beast and it will take something cataclysmic for them to not make money on any product they produce.
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