Let's talk about AdBlock... Page 16

  • Deleted user 24 February 2015 10:17:02
    That Total War Attila ad.... :(

    Was reading the front page and bosh, ad popped up full screen.

    :(
  • DFawkes 24 Feb 2015 10:24:53 32,791 posts
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    Stop auto-playing videos, EG. Evolve did it, Order 18Numbers did it, now Attila is doing it. Stop it. Really, stop it. Please stop it.

    What browser are you on LetsGo? On Chrome it's not expanding for me unless I hover over it, though it's still completely unacceptable that it's an auto-playing video before you even expand it.
  • Deleted user 24 February 2015 10:28:42
    Yeah, I'm on Chrome.

    Its true I was hovering over it, I just loaded the page up, was reading the headlines and it popped up.

    Just down to my stupidness I guess, I didn't even know I was hovering over it.
  • DFawkes 24 Feb 2015 10:40:52 32,791 posts
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    Hover over is a silly system anyway. Make it a click. We can click it if we're interested.
  • RyanDS 24 Feb 2015 12:32:26 14,074 posts
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    I really don't get EGs stance on this.

    "People are turning to adblock due to our obnoxious adverts. I know, lets make them even worse as that will solve the problem!"

    Why they allow stuff like hover over ads is insane.
  • DFawkes 24 Feb 2015 12:50:13 32,791 posts
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    I'm not even sure what guidelines EG has. In the OP there is this:

    "Our general guideline has to be to respect our users - never obscure the content they are trying to read and to keep the two things separate – ie. content on the left, ads on the right."

    The Attila ad breaks both of these as the content expands right over the content if you rest the mouse in the wrong place, and the ad wraps around the left, right and top sides of the content so the things certainly don't feel separate. You could at least make the first one reasonable by making it click to open rather that hover.

    Still, I do understand the need to make money and if Sega want to pay EG advertising money to guarantee I'll never ever buy it, that's up to them. But as I keep saying, please at least stop with the auto-playing videos in the banners.
  • Deleted user 24 February 2015 13:07:00
    I visited the site with Adblock off the other day, as I was using my wife's laptop - never ever again as it was possibly the worst website experience I have had in a long long time :/ sorry, EG, but this site is probably the best advert for Adblock/Ghostery that I have seen
  • DFawkes 24 Feb 2015 13:08:09 32,791 posts
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    Also, and I know this is a bit nit-picky, but could you please consider taking lower screen resolutions into account, and having the adverts in the right language?

    Here is what it looks like

    Sure, admittedly I had to scroll across to get it like that so that is rather nit-picky, but that doesn't stop the ad being in another language. That said, I do appreciate that one not having an auto-playing video. So thank you :p
  • Zomoniac 24 Feb 2015 13:12:49 10,628 posts
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    Excellent work on the tabs :D
  • craigy Staff 24 Feb 2015 13:13:02 9,500 posts
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    Hiya! I'm not on the advertising team, but I'm reasonably sure the trailer in the Attilla advert doesn't auto-play.

    When you hover over the area clearly labelled "Hover to expand", it begins a 3-second countdown before the trailer appears over the content.

    Can that be categorised as an auto-playing ad? I'm not sure it can. Hovering over something that ticks down a countdown timer seems to be a clear sign of impending action.

    I agree that these things are better launched by a click, though. Or do you mean the looping chunk of soundless video in the leaderboard area is the thing that's annoying?
  • Armoured_Bear 24 Feb 2015 13:13:03 31,234 posts
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    It's nice to practise my Portuguese.
  • Zomoniac 24 Feb 2015 13:14:30 10,628 posts
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    The looping soundless video is annoying. It distracts the eyes from reading anything.
  • BigOrkWaaagh 24 Feb 2015 13:15:45 10,554 posts
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    @DFawkes Nice tabs :D
  • DFawkes 24 Feb 2015 13:19:26 32,791 posts
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    craigy wrote:
    I agree that these things are better launched by a click, though. Or do you mean the looping chunk of soundless video in the leaderboard area is the thing that's annoying?
    Yeah, that's the one. Sorry, I wasn't to clear on that. The Attila advert automatically plays a short chunk of the video without you hovering over it. I've never liked that. Personal preference of course. It's not like EG is missing out. Heck, I even hovered over it to see how intrusive it was, so hopefully that's more cash for EG :)

    Edited by DFawkes at 13:22:15 24-02-2015
  • Load_2.0 24 Feb 2015 13:21:18 33,582 posts
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    Having to strategically position your mouse when you visit a site in case you accidentally activate advertisement landmines is a pain in the ass.

    Who notices the countdown with all the other flashing distractions around the content?

    Especially annoying if you don't scroll with a mouse or keypad. My default resting point is top or to the side of the screen. Which is why these traps were devised.

    Being tricked into activating an advert is frustrating.

    What sane human would opt to let an advert countdown to view the content in preference to clicking on it?

    Edited by Load_2.0 at 13:22:45 24-02-2015
  • Dirtbox 24 Feb 2015 13:31:17 92,599 posts
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  • DFawkes 24 Feb 2015 13:34:25 32,791 posts
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    The thing is, for all I whine about auto-playing videos/animations, it's not like I'll go to another site. I'll stick AdBlock on, make sure the Acceptable Ads are displaying okay then just carry on. I really can't see the overall revenue lost from me doing that not being massively overshadowed by all the people that are okay with that sort of thing, so I'm okay with the way things are.

    I don't generally whine about many things, so when it's the last thing left that cause a minor irritation, I tend to moan about it more. Sorry if that makes me seem like I'm rabbiting on, but not playing video or animation is a pet peeve of mine, and shall remain so. I don't expect EG to bend to my will or anything. If that sort of ad results in sales, I expect the people actually creating them will continue to do so.
  • Deleted user 24 February 2015 13:36:03
    craigy wrote:
    When you hover over the area clearly labelled "Hover to expand", it begins a 3-second countdown before the trailer appears over the content.

    Can that be categorised as an auto-playing ad? I'm not sure it can. Hovering over something that ticks down a countdown timer seems to be a clear sign of impending action.

    I agree that these things are better launched by a click, though. Or do you mean the looping chunk of soundless video in the leaderboard area is the thing that's annoying?
    TBH, I don't want to have to think where to place my pointer when browsing a website in-case it triggers an ad.
  • RyanDS 24 Feb 2015 13:43:54 14,074 posts
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    I count tricking you into playing stuff because your cursor happens to have stopped somewhere on screen as auto playing.

    It happens a lot on my laptop especially that I leave the cursor somewhere. It even happens if you are scrolling via keyboard and the static cursos passes into the zone iirc.

    I also count the soundless animations as auto playing video, but at leSt they are slightly less obnoxious.
  • craigy Staff 24 Feb 2015 13:46:00 9,500 posts
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    Yep, I do agree that these things should be triggered by a click, just so the intent is completely unambiguous.
  • disusedgenius 24 Feb 2015 14:01:48 10,677 posts
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    RyanDS wrote:
    I also count the soundless animations as auto playing video, but at leSt they are slightly less obnoxious.
    Certainly still enough to make the site non-worksafe. In a way it's sad that the only approved ads that get through are the EG Rezzed ones, I guess they don't help that much after all.
  • Deleted user 24 February 2015 14:04:12
    How many shit adverts do I need to hover over before I make enough revenue for Portable Mode Craigy?
  • DFawkes 26 Feb 2015 17:13:15 32,791 posts
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    One of the ads on the mobile site right now seems to be for a Fifa Ultimate Team gold seller. It's probably perfectly legitimate but they have a worrying disclaimer on their site that makes me suspect it might not be entirely legitimate.

    Also EA have said people caught buying or selling coins would get banned so I assume they don't approve ;) I got a screen grab I can upload later if that'd help, but I don't want to post the exact site as people that post gold sellers tend to get banned.
  • Skirlasvoud 28 Feb 2015 16:15:07 4,039 posts
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    I have to hand it to them, some of this advertisement is ingenious.

    This book of Unwritten Tales 2 advertisement? The auto-playing movie part?
    It's two faces, one behind the other, glimmering with sweat in the firelight, apparently panting, heaving, subtly rocking back and forth as the camera softly slides over in soft-focus.

    Remind you of any typical human activity that most of us are obsessed with? Yes, it's like people having sex. Eurogamer puts advertisement on its site that is the close equivalent of people having sex.

    If you click the damn thing however it becomes obvious its just two ogres, side by side in a damp tavern, singing a song and moving to the rhythm, but whow, hat's off to getting people's attention guys. Ingenious. You got me to click on it.



    I'd be annoyed, but I feel just as smart and pleased with myself for knowing how they're trying to get my attention and being one step ahead of them. I can tolerate it being there for a month minimum just because.
    Taboola still freaks me the hell out though...

    Edited by Skirlasvoud at 16:18:47 28-02-2015
  • BigOrkWaaagh 28 Feb 2015 16:54:21 10,554 posts
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    Skirlasvoud wrote:I feel just as smart and pleased with myself for knowing how they're trying to get my attention and being one step ahead of them.
    I don't think you can really feel that smug. You did click on the ad, after all.
  • Skirlasvoud 28 Feb 2015 16:59:08 4,039 posts
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    @BigOrkWaaagh

    Yeah I kinda realized that after giving it 5 more seconds of thought. Isn't much use to have the trap figured out if I have my foot snared in it.

    *Grumble*
  • Carlo 29 Mar 2015 22:22:15 21,801 posts
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    I've got a surface pro 3 i5 and I'm running chrome.

    I've HAD TO add adblock extensions as there's something killing my tablet. I'll wait a week and try and turn it off again but you've left me no choice. It was taking 60% of the cpu and making the fan go nuts etc.
  • Skirlasvoud 6 Apr 2015 18:20:19 4,039 posts
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    So now there's these google adds running on the site, telling me to claim my billions, buy a rare metal analyzer and that I'm one click away from a translation toolbar.

    Problem is; they're from the same provider as the background adds. If I try to combat them, I turn off the background adds.

    I'm simply not smart enough to program an exception for crap like that in addblock.


    It was good while it lasted for the last 2 months eurogamer. I actually appreciated the adds.
    Now you're ruined it again though. Consider yourself blocked again.
  • mothercruncher 6 Apr 2015 21:28:32 19,475 posts
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    Have you tried just using the "Acceptable Ads" setting?
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