News article on the beeb today:|
Still a good aid for helping to quit, but perhaps not a healthier substitute (as first thought) in the long term?
Edited by ZuluHero at 09:23:30 14-08-2018
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billythekid 12,353 posts
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I've just got a Horizon Tech Falcon tank with the mesh coil in it, wow some great flavour from this thing.
Using Tropix blackcurrant juice and it's like vaping on blackcurrant Tunes cough sweets!
I remember not long ago a study being done where they actually tested the effects of the vapour on the lungs (rather than just studying the components in the liquid) and the opinion among the vaping community was that they had in fact simply tested the effects of constantly dry hitting a coil.
No idea if this is that study or not but there it is.
This one is more about 'damaging vital immune system cells'
Researchers found e-cigarette vapour disabled important immune cells in the lung and boosted inflammation.Not sure how much is in it at the moment, but thought it might be of some relevance.
Edited by ZuluHero at 09:49:49 14-08-2018
When PHE come out and back the study will be when I pay attention to it.
Does anyone vape CBD? Been watching a Joe Rogan podcast with Dorian Yates (my GOAT bodybuilder). And he swears by it for general muscle relaxation after workouts and for recovery, antioxidants and skin care.
Never vaped before, smoked for about 4 years a long time ago. Where would you recommend to start? If anything I'm interesred in experimenting as my workouts leave a lasting effect as I'm getting older (only 32 but been weight lifting for 10 years).
I have vaped CBD before. It definitely has an effect but the most effect I have had from dripping it under my tongue and swallowing it as instructed. Go for good quality ones as there is some tat on the market.
Yeah, you can tell the cheap shit from a mile off. Usually infused with some wacky flavour like 'berry blitz' or 'apple bonanza' as far as I can tell. Are there any reputable sites that you'd recommend?
I get mine from a local vape shop. I get this stuff https://www.koicbd.co.uk in the neutral flavour.
Fake_Blood 9,507 posts
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User name checks out.
Stark contrast to the article the other day.
For example, it said it was "unacceptable" that a third of the 50 NHS mental health trusts in England had a ban on e-cigarettes on their premises, when there was a "negligible health risk" from second hand e-cigarette vapour.
greater freedom for industry to advertise e-cigarettes
relaxing of regulations and tax duties on e-cigarettes to reflect their relative health benefits
an annual review of the health effects of e-cigarettes, as well as heat-not-burn products
a debate on vaping in public spaces, such as on public transport and in offices
e-cigarettes licensed as medical devices
a rethink on limits on refill strengths and tank sizes
an end to the ban on snus - an oral tobacco product which is illegal in the UK under EU rules
What's a good tank nowadays?
I've got a baby beast at the minute but the coils aren't worth a damn and last about five minutes. Looking for something that lasts a while longer with good flavour and all the rest of it and doesn't leak.
I do vape the really sweet stuff gourmet stuff which is probably worth mentioning.
phycus 326 posts
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Aspire Cleito 120 is a good tank, 100 watt (rated to 120 watt) 0.16 coils is what I use. Coils last me about 3 to 4 weeks, also vape sweet fruit liquid (monster melons is my fave). Only caramel flavour seems to lower coil life to 1 to 2 weeks. Never had a leak, and you can get a fatboy glass tank for it.
Edited by phycus at 20:42:21 23-08-2018
pk1980 1,192 posts
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The glass bowl should be unavailable due to TPD, however not always the case as got one myself a few months ago.
Recently went nicotine free. Turned out to be an error on my part for reasons.
Today picked up an Aspire Gusto it is bloody great. Expensive to run, in vaping terms, but loving it so far.
Not had a cigarette since Friday, when I got hold of a Juul vaping thing. As a dedicated 20 a day man for way to long, pleased that this is working, it seems, so far. A 'pod' a day is about a packet worth equivalent, therefore costs about £2.40 a pack, 1/5th of the price. All good so far.
Now using an Vype ePen 3 - uses the pod/capsule click system similar to Juul. Pods are bigger, bigger battery life, better hit, and cheaper.
Highly recommend this type of set up if giving up smoking, initially at least. Easy to manage. Just remember to keep your Vaping gizmo out of arms reach.
Years ago, either on this thread or the previous one, I made a gag about vaping causing popcorn lung.
I didn't think it was real
It's still not real.
Stop looking for vaping to kill people pes. It's dull AF. Just try to be happy that 3.something million have quit smoking in the UK for a healthier lifestyle.
If you need a source check out PHE - vaping is 95% safer than smoking.
I'm not looking for that, all my point has been is that we don't know what the fuck is in the unregulated shit nor long term effects and "because it isn't a cigarette it's healthy" seems a bit short sighted. I'm interested in that as I am every element of health.
Not trying to spoil your fun with your vaping RIGS
I don't really vape rigs these days, just work in the industry and know it very well.
It's true we don't know what's exactly in the majority of the unregulated shortfill market, cause most of it it hasn't gone through TPD/TRPR/MHRA regs and testing, BUT, so long as you're buying from a trusted source (and TPD 10ml tested eliquids if you're that wary) and not some scum merchant on Ebay who added piss to the eliquid you'll be ok and your juice will be significantly healthier and safer still than smoking a tab.
I covered this shit for a while for a blog and even during the periods where DA was present in a LOT of juice, it was still orders of magnitude less than in a cig. Nobody has died from Popcorn Lung from smoking DA. COPD of course is another thing - plenty dead from that.
Popcorn Lung as you know PES comes from a situation years back in a Chinese popcorn factory where workers were exposed to DA suspended in the air. Huge amounts. Massive amounts. It's on a different scale to vaping.
I'm not saying vaping is harm free and 100% safe - it's not at all. That would be a ridiculous thing to say. That said, ecigs have improved the lives of millions, reducing harm overall.
I'd be on the side of PHE.
Bob, if you get popcorn lung can I have your stuff
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