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Mola_Ram 26,187 posts
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Ryze 3,767 posts
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Registered 15 years agoGun laws aren't the solution, as Dunblane didn't suddenly take guns off of all the criminals.
The general population didn't have guns in the UK. Neither did the Police.
The general population and the Police have guns in the US, and the law won't fix that regardless of whether it's changed. It won't be. That's American society.
What may change, is Police recruitment policies, training and accountability. Eventually.
The BBC documentary 'The Secret Policeman' showed that far-right groups had a significant presence in many police forces in the past. Things are quite different now, although I'm not naive enough to assume that all is fine and dandy. It's interesting to see how things have played out in social situations during my life - especially when alcohol is involved, as some people speak without all of their usual censors turned on.
There's no quick fix for this stuff. It's like turning off 'Al Qaeda'. What happened to them? -
One fairly easy solution isn't there? Convict criminal policemen.
As long as they're untouchable goons of the establishment and judiciary who can literally get away with murder, why should anything change? -
Ryze 3,767 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThis lot with guns would be interesting:
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SwissEvans 368 posts
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Registered 8 years agoNot sure if this has been posted before, but a really good, funny take on Gun Control and how its worked in Australia. Realise the guy hes interviewing is a moron, but still. Food for thought.
and part 2. Especially interesting on the "what makes a politician successful" part...
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There's more to it than just 'fixing' the police. The entire judicial system is effectively for sale in the U.S., with private jails being paid per inmate per day, and, without tinfoil hat, with very powerful companies running them and influencing judges and congress to hand down overly punitive sentences and adjust laws to suit.
It also costs a great deal more to rehabilitate a prisoner via education than it does to simply lock them up. Add all this to the racial profiling which happens quite openly throughout the U.S. and you wind up with 1 in 9 black males aged 20 - 34 in the states currently being in jail.
All in all, if you really MUST be an American, try as hard as you can to be white. -
Vice.Destroyer 7,437 posts
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Registered 15 years agoPES_Fanboy wrote:
QFT
All in all, if you really MUST be an American, try as hard as you can to be white.
Also, just to illustrate the point that PES_Fanboy was making regarding corrupt judges, check out Mark Ciavarella. An utter cunt!
He got 28 years
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Vice.Destroyer 7,437 posts
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Registered 15 years agoIf you are having a stroke whilst driving your car, become disoriented and drive into oncoming traffic, do you expect to be accosted by cops who:
1) greet you with guns drawn
2) taser you without warning
3) pepperspray you without warning
4) run over your foot with your own car after dragging your responseless body out of the car
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Vice.Destroyer 7,437 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI'll imagine that everyone has now heard of the shooting that left Timothy Russell and Malissa Williams dead?
Cleveland police had maintained for years that the two dead people had shot at police. It is now accepted that that is not true.
What did happen is that something alarmed the cops. There is a theory now that the car might have backfired. In any case, the two were pursued by police. And didn't stop. Which caused the chase to grow. At one stage there were over 100 officers involved in the chase! They cornered them in a car park. And shot 137 bullets into the car. One guy even jumped onto the hood and shot 49 bullets into the car. Even stopping to reload once!
The aftermath of the case is as follows. The city of has settled with the family of victims. $3m in a wrongful death suit.
72 of the cops involved have been suspended without pay. And yet, nobody has been charged with anything. Someone essentially imagined a threat. Caused a chase (where the victims did not stop), 137 shots end up in a car, killing two people. One guy jumps onto the hood of the car, Rambo-style, lets of nearly 50 rounds and nobody did anything criminally wrong. -
Vice.Destroyer 7,437 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThis would be funny, if it weren't so fucking outrageous!
I guess you can't fault the reason for forcing them to stop hitting people on their heads with guns. Notwithstanding other other reasons -
Vice.Destroyer 7,437 posts
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Registered 15 years agoYou know how there is no database of any kind, collating deaths of people by police in US? The Guardian has created a database itself. -
richarddavies 8,312 posts
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Registered 13 years agoVice.Destroyer wrote:
That's quite nifty and good to have a look at. Interesting just how many more white people are killed compared to other races.
You know how there is no database of any kind, collating deaths of people by police in US? The Guardian has created a database itself. -
disusedgenius 10,677 posts
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Registered 14 years agoMore of them, I guess. -
Vice.Destroyer 7,437 posts
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Registered 15 years agoRest in Peace. Sandra Bland.
Too long to read?
Lady travels from her home (in Chicago, I think) to Texas for a job
Is prominent anti-police activist
Gets stopped for a traffic violation
Violently arrested for becoming aggressive
Dies from asphyxiation in jail three days later
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Vice.Destroyer 7,437 posts
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Registered 15 years agoIn case anybody is interested, Reggie Yates went to Ferguson to see the town a year after the death of Michael Brown. It's worth checking out. -
richarddavies 8,312 posts
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Registered 13 years agoI saw the reggie yates one last night on three. They did another one about the KKK as well, they have a few race related programmes on this week. They've been good up to yet. -
Vice.Destroyer 7,437 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI saw the KKK one as well. I have to be honest and say that it still surprises me that the KKK is going strong. I felt a really strange sense of unease seeing toddlers at the KKK meeting. Indoctrination of this kind should really result in those kids going into care. And when that 24 year old KKK leader started with his holocaust denial theories, I nearly turned the channel. Good god, what an idiot. -
mal 29,326 posts
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Registered 20 years agoVice.Destroyer wrote:
Ta, got it set for record; 2am tonight.
In case anybody is interested, Reggie Yates went to Ferguson to see the town a year after the death of Michael Brown. It's worth checking out. -
Vice.Destroyer 7,437 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI thought I would stop posting in this thread, but this is just insane.
Some guy who suffers from a mental disorder, hadn't taken his medicine. Hits his girlfriend. Gets taken to jail.
If you can stomach it
The main thing to take away is, that aguy tha has bipolar disorder and was suffering from an episode was arested, rather than taken to hospital like the person who called 911 requested. Being kind, the police are not quite the perfect people to deal with a person who is suffering from a bipolar episode.
Anyways, this guy gets unruly and physical. Gets subdued. And a a final coup de grace, gets puts in a restraining chair, naked and then gets tasered in his groin! Dies overnight.
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Jono62 27,356 posts
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Registered 13 years agoThat's horrid. RIP Matthew Ajibade. -
Oh-Bollox 6,513 posts
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Registered 14 years agoWell at least the police have calmed right down.
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IMO 7,883 posts
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Registered 17 years agoOh-Bollox wrote:
I cannot think of any situation where the person who I presume is the teacher felt it appropriate to let all that happen.
Well at least the police have calmed right down.
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Its a sad commentary on the US (again) and their love affair with fear.
Whereas any right-minded person would think "Hmm, the school has dedicated cops? Jesus titty fucking Christ my kid is NOT going there", the majority probably think its great. -
Vice.Destroyer 7,437 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI don't usually like post what is essentially a snuff film, but this story is about as outrageous as any video so far. Short synopsis.
17 year old Laquan McDonald is behaving erratically and gets followed by police. He has a knife in his hand but is not posing a direct threat to police. He doesn't obey orders to drop the knife. Or lie down. He starts to move away. He was high on drugs. Nearest officer was about 10 feet away. Shoots him once, or twice while he was standing. Shot him 14 times while he was on the ground!
Incident caught on tape. For a significant amount of months, autopsy results were suppressed. Here is part of the original statement by police after the event. Worth considering that the video in this post came from a police dashboard cam.
A squad car arrived on the scene, and officers spotted the teen -- later identified as Laquan McDonald -- standing next to a car with a knife in his hand, Camden said. The teen began walking toward Pulaski Road and ignored the officers' requests to drop the knife, Camden said.
With that in mind, here is the video. And the only reason it was even released is because of a whistleblower. The police on the scene shooed away witnesses and even deleted surveillance video from a nearby Burger King. The above statement was released when certain people in Chicago PD knew it was a barefaced lie.
"He's got a 100-yard stare. He's staring blankly," Camden said of the teen. "[He] walked up to a car and stabbed the tire of the car and kept walking."
Officers remained in their car and followed McDonald as he walked south on Pulaski Road. More officers arrived and police tried to box the teen in with two squad cars, Camden said. McDonald punctured one of the squad car's front passenger-side tires and damaged the front windshield, police and Camden said.
Officers got out of their car and began approaching McDonald, again telling him to drop the knife, Camden said. The boy allegedly lunged at police, and one of the officers opened fire.
McDonald was shot in the chest and taken to Mount Sinai Hospital, where he was pronounced dead at 10:42 p.m. He lived in the 500 block of North Springfield Avenue, about 5 miles from where he was shot.
Camden said a knife was recovered from the scene. A statement from Police News Affairs said no officers were injured.
Camden said none of the officers who responded had a Taser to use on the teen and were trying to detain him long enough for one to arrive. He said officers were forced to defend themselves.
"When police tell you to drop a weapon, all you have to do is drop it," Camden said.
As with all Chicago police-involved shootings, the Independent Police Review Authority was investigating.
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greenthumb 551 posts
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Registered 15 years agothe worst part of the Laquan murder is the fact they shot him in the back of the head while he was on the ground from multiple gunshot wounds. that's just cold blooded murder -
Youthist 14,723 posts
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Registered 16 years agogreenthumb wrote:
Yeah lets not bother about a trial or anything to find out what happened. You have seen the video and everything - guilty of murder.
the worst part of the Laquan murder is the fact they shot him in the back of the head while he was on the ground from multiple gunshot wounds. that's just cold blooded murder -
I think that this is one case, where it may be okay to let condemnation before a trial slide.
14 of these shots came when this guy was on the ground!
The video above doesn't have any audio, so it is difficult to determine for yourself how many shots took him down. But it is said by the second shot, he was motionless on the ground. And the first two shots were not the ones that killed him.
14 shots into a motionless body? I'm sorry, if that is not murder, I don't know what is.
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