It’s OK for PC gamers to be a little arrogant – they know they've backed the right platform Page 4

  • Armoured_Bear 26 Jan 2015 23:28:36 31,234 posts
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    It's tricky, PCs are great with many advantages but you run the risk of being one of the Master Race tinkerbell fanboys like Dirtbox.

    /Shudders.

    Edited by Phattso at 08:14:22 27-01-2015
  • Mola_Ram 26 Jan 2015 23:38:13 26,196 posts
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    drhickman1983 wrote:
    Since I bought my PC i've purely been digital, but I have to admit if I could buy the disc as cheaply as the download, I'd be tempted.

    yeah, we have day one patches, but most patches are still vastly smaller than the 40gb or so some games are.
    I bought Sniper Elite 3 on disc (I got a retail voucher for Christmas). The disc installed about 50% of the game, and the rest I had to download. I thought that was pretty poor.
  • Deleted user 26 January 2015 23:41:59
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    It's tricky, PCs are great with many advantages but you run the risk of being one of the Master Race bell end fanboys like Dirtbox.

    /Shudders.
    Yeah, Master Race bell end fanboys are just as bad as Nintendo bell end fanboys. Remember them?
  • Mola_Ram 26 Jan 2015 23:43:12 26,196 posts
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    Most people who use the PCMR thing are doing so ironically. Including Yahtzee.
  • Armoured_Bear 26 Jan 2015 23:43:34 31,234 posts
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    Physically_Insane wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    It's tricky, PCs are great with many advantages but you run the risk of being one of the Master Race bell end fanboys like Dirtbox.

    /Shudders.
    Yeah, Master Race bell end fanboys are just as bad as Nintendo bell end fanboys. Remember them?
    I agree, I haven't seen evidence of the latter for a long time though, I think they're extinct around here.
  • Deleted user 26 January 2015 23:49:01
    @Mola_Ram

    That is pretty poor, but it's still half the size to download :)

    The problem I personally have is that my download speeds are shite, like 1000 kb/s if I'm lucky.
  • Mola_Ram 26 Jan 2015 23:52:25 26,196 posts
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    drhickman1983 wrote:
    @Mola_Ram

    That is pretty poor, but it's still half the size to download :)

    The problem I personally have is that my download speeds are shite, like 1000 kb/s if I'm lucky.
    700kb/s for me. And that's the highest it goes. So yeah, having a disc that actually installed the game would be a bit of an advantage for me.
  • Dirtbox 26 Jan 2015 23:54:06 92,599 posts
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  • Armoured_Bear 26 Jan 2015 23:59:13 31,234 posts
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    I use this on the sofa :
    http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-touch-keyboard-k400r?wt.ac=HPB3-CTA1-k400

    Not great but convenient
  • Mola_Ram 26 Jan 2015 23:59:49 26,196 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    Physically_Insane wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    It's tricky, PCs are great with many advantages but you run the risk of being one of the Master Race bell end fanboys like Dirtbox.

    /Shudders.
    Yeah, Master Race bell end fanboys are just as bad as Nintendo bell end fanboys. Remember them?
    I agree, I haven't seen evidence of the latter for a long time though, I think they're extinct around here.
    You can be both! If I was going to get a console, it would probably be a WiiU. Nintendo consoles don't have the same "cheap PC in an expensive case" feel that the XB1 and PS4 have. They feel different, and they have games that you can't get anywhere else.

    Love the new 3ds too.
  • Armoured_Bear 27 Jan 2015 00:01:41 31,234 posts
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    Mola_Ram wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    Physically_Insane wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    It's tricky, PCs are great with many advantages but you run the risk of being one of the Master Race bell end fanboys like Dirtbox.

    /Shudders.
    Yeah, Master Race bell end fanboys are just as bad as Nintendo bell end fanboys. Remember them?
    I agree, I haven't seen evidence of the latter for a long time though, I think they're extinct around here.
    You can be both! If I was going to get a console, it would probably be a WiiU. Nintendo consoles don't have the same "cheap PC in an expensive case" feel that the XB1 and PS4 have. They feel different, and they have games that you can't get anywhere else.

    Love the new 3ds too.
    Aye. But bloodborne...
  • Deleted user 27 January 2015 00:02:41
    I've been tempted by a wii-u. It has more upcoming games I'm interested in.
  • mal 27 Jan 2015 00:44:52 29,326 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    they don't have a walled garden or depend on publishers charging £50 a throw in Game for an antiquated physical media format
    It seems to me, (based purely on people moaning on t'internet to be fair) that a lot of PC gamers are happy to set up any walled garden from Steam to Origin or U-play. Granted, having three walled gardens is better than being limited to one, and the fact you can set up DRM free stuff alongside these systems, combined especially with the fact nobody's charging 50 quid on PC.

    I can't argue with your other points. Just seems to me that a lot of the PC master race lot are rather too happy to trade their freedom when it comes to cheap games.
  • Dirtbox 27 Jan 2015 01:19:52 92,599 posts
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  • Deleted user 27 January 2015 01:30:18
    The 5 or 6 games you'd get for £20 aren't directly comparable to a full price new console game.

    As far as I'm concerned the only valid comparison is the same game on PC. Which is still usually cheaper on PC, but not always by that much.

    Edited by drhickman1983 at 01:32:51 27-01-2015
  • Dirtbox 27 Jan 2015 01:37:08 92,599 posts
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  • Armoured_Bear 27 Jan 2015 07:14:38 31,234 posts
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    Of course Steam could decide you've broken their rules and disable every one of their games. You don't really own the games, cheaper though they may be.
  • RyanDS 27 Jan 2015 07:41:37 14,074 posts
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    I am slowly drifting back into PC gaming thanks to the resurgence of old RPGs and that, Pillars of eternity and so on.

    Anyway my random thoughts.

    I prefer console gaming most of the time as it is plug and play. Coincidence I know but when I moved back to PC gaming 4 years ago the first 2 games I had to faff around with drivers etc to run. It is rare and most games do just work, but I prefer knowing my console will just run.

    Similar point, consoles will always be an adequate experience. Sure, the PC version may run better, but just as likely my PC may not run it well. Being a busy person these days, jusyt give me medium guarenteed than maybe great.

    I'm not 18 anymore. When I was 18 I loved tinkering and trying to make stuff better, now I am approaching 40, I just want stuff to work.

    Lastly consoles ruined PC gaming. See Skyrim, where it has fucking awful controls that need a retard console pad attached, Some ports are poor, and playing on a PC feels dumbed down these days. Where are my X-Wing and such with 10000 key combos? I miss the days of my force feedback joysticks and wheels, nowadays the PC doesn't really offer much unique that you don't get on a console.

    Finally, to counter my last point, the last year has been fucking amazing on PC, enough to make me buy a gaming laptop. It is starting to feel like the late 90s again with great RPGs and Elite and such, stuff that actually feels like PC gaming as opposed to console ports, and I am starting to fall inlove with the PC all over again.
  • magicpanda 27 Jan 2015 07:48:37 15,130 posts
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    If you are going to argue a point in favor of consoles the last game you use is Skyrim.
  • Mola_Ram 27 Jan 2015 07:55:07 26,196 posts
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    I can't really think of all that many recent PC ports that have been particularly bad. Dark Souls and Deadly Premonition are the only two that spring to mind currently.

    I guess Skyrim, but you can mod out most of the awful stuff on PC.

    Edited by Mola_Ram at 07:55:22 27-01-2015
  • magicpanda 27 Jan 2015 08:07:39 15,130 posts
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    The only thing wrong with Skyrim is that it was held back by making it with consoles and console players in mind.
  • Rodney 27 Jan 2015 08:10:50 5,029 posts
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    I dobt know if its just my perceptiin but whenever I go into a PC game thread on here I see a lot of talk about settings, drivers, graphic card compatability issues, server connection issues etc.

    I think its a bit of a,myth that PC gaming just works. It does most of the time but people tend to remember the few games that are a masive ball ache to set up
  • Deleted user 27 January 2015 08:14:17
    Aye, I haven't had to tweak anything for 98% of games for yonks.
  • Saul_Iscariot 27 Jan 2015 08:15:15 4,399 posts
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    So in conclusion, what should matter, and matter alone is what games are available on the format you choose to go with? I couldn't make my mind up whether to get a PS4 or XB1, and the more I looked at it I figured a PC currently had more to offer me. I bought a bare bones tower, put in some ram and a better CPU. I will get a decent graphics card for it, and will need a new PSU. It will cost me just under three hundred quid, but more importantly, it will have the games on it I want to play.

    Complimented with my Wii U and 3DS, and loads of old consoles, I have a library that caters for every mood of gaming that takes me. And that is all that should matter. Taking an interest in your rig to get the best performance form the parts and set up is fine and dandy. But it is a separate hobby to gaming. It is a sub set of it.
  • Phattso 27 Jan 2015 08:18:12 27,426 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    @Phattso

    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    It's tricky, PCs are great with many advantages but you run the risk of being one of the Master Race bell end fanboys like Dirtbox.

    /Shudders.
    Here you go.
    Hmmmm. Tempting, but not _quite_ enough.

    Oh OK, maybe a little sit-down in chokey but definitely not enough for a lie-down in chokey.
  • Phattso 27 Jan 2015 08:21:50 27,426 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    But if you think a game is somehow better when it's brand new then you're kidding yourself.
    I dunno - that's black and white. There's something to be said for getting a game while it's still 'new' and unsullied.

    Looking back at the dim and distant past, I don't remember anyone on the playground saying "Wow - Speedball 2 looks amazing! Can't wait until next year when I pick it up on a budget release!"

    No. They pirated that fucker on the spot and played it for hours. Not that I was on a playground when Brutal Deluxe was released (restraining orders, innit) but you know what I mean.

    There are a few games this year that I'll be wanting the picosecond they're released, and would be narked to wait for. Anticipation being part of the enjoyment, etc. etc.

    But not _every_ game gets or deserves that treatment for sure.
  • Mola_Ram 27 Jan 2015 08:24:06 26,196 posts
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    Well, people don't usually go into PC troubleshooting threads to say that everything is fine. It's like calculating public opinion on an issue by looking at a letter to the editors page in a newspaper.

    I think most PC gamers will be completely fine with the vast majority of games. Since I've gotten my current PC (about 3 years ago, no upgrades since then), there has been zero faffing about. Every game has worked pretty much straight out of the box. If there's ever been a problem, it's been one that was easily fixed. So, for me, PC gaming does just work.

    EDIT: @Rodney

    Edited by Mola_Ram at 08:24:28 27-01-2015
  • RyanDS 27 Jan 2015 08:29:45 14,074 posts
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    magicpanda wrote:
    If you are going to argue a point in favor of consoles the last game you use is Skyrim.
    It was the control scheme.  A curious mix of mouse and keys that really made no sense.  
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