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Peter Molyneux is a Cupcake • Page 2
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super-s1 wrote:
He really got away with some crazy stuff with the Kickstarter.
of the highest order.
If the word cunt is not allowed I reckon you should allow it in this instance because he really is a cunt.
He's like supposed to be some leading light, and Eurogamer has given him almost unlimited media coverage. Yes it's easy to highlight some eccentric person - why's it so hard to show what a cunt he is?
Short story - he broke off from microsoft, created a company called 22 cans which started a successful kickstarter which got half a million quid. The kickstarter promised a pc rich game, black and white, theme park, dungeon keeper esque. And the half million quid was used to make a free to play game instead. Free to play involves basic gameplay where it begs you for money every two minutes.
And apparently he's earned millions offit.
It's fucking disgustingness of the highest order and why the fuck don't you cover it all on Eurogamer?
Didn't mention free to play, didn't deliver some of the kickstarter rewards and according to twitter, let some of the 'student' backers down with broken promises of forums and dev talks - yet press just seem to let him get away with it. -
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Registered 17 years agoDodgyPast wrote:
Well played, sir.
Thread 's overhyped and fails to deliver more than some features that are terribly limited compared to the promises of the title. -
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Registered 15 years agoRelevant.
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disusedgenius 10,677 posts
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Registered 14 years agoLetsGo wrote:
There's a handful of people who have done enough for me to ignore any and all ills in their later careers - folks like the Carmacks, Spectors, Miyamotos, Nakas and Suzukis of the world. And, well, Molyneux is one of them.
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Registered 17 years agoBack in the day the games he helped put out were either groundbreaking or best-of-breed. Up to and beyond the EA acquisition: utter horseshit, obviously. -
If you plant a cupcake in the ground and come back 10 years later, a tree full of them will be right there? -
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Registered 17 years agoIn the early days he cut the code didn't he? Populous et al. Early Bullfrog was amazing. He can't take credit for Theme Park as that was mainly another dude, mind you.
But Syndicate. Come on - credit where it's due. For its time that was quite something.
Once he stepped away from the coalface and up into imagineering, that's possibly where things went more awry. Or maybe he only had a few games in him. Who knows.
Like any number of currently active snake oil salespersons, he hasn't been on my radar for a looooong long time. The UK press will always fawn over him, as they do any UK success story, but I think the rest of the world barely knows he's around. -
Oh yeah, and he's pulled most of his team onto a new game, while neglecting a lot of the kickstarter promises, such as multiplayer, a story, etc. The early access pc game couldn't even shut down properly until recently. It's unreal. I don't doubt his claim about making tens of thousands of dollars a day, there's still a killing to be made.
It's so scummy. I'm more disappointed in the gaming presses lack of interest in reporting the shady stuff than his unethical practises though tbh.
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Registered 17 years agoI hope you're gonna go around to the wanker at EA that has a DLC car for sixty quid of real money in their Real Racing games. Gotta spread the hate!
Kickstarter... yeah. Caveat emptor, right? I think Godus is far from the worst example on there of people getting stiffed.
Molyneux is a very easy target, I think. He has dared to make money and be overt about having made money. All part of keeping his name in the headlines to make more money.
In fact, super-s1, you've given him exactly the attention he wants by making this very thread. Wait... Peter... is that you?! -
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Phattso wrote:
Yeah, but that's the main thing, he wasn't overt about it. In fact, he lied about it to get backing. Yes, it's lying by omission - he mentioned nothing about freemiun crap in the kickstarter pledge, of course, so he he could secure funds. It's blatant fraud. In fact it's probably the worst example of kickstarter abuse - at least most of the other failures tried to do what they promised.
Molyneux is a very easy target, I think. He has dared to make money and be overt about having made money. All part of keeping his name in the headlines to make more money.
He probably had the money to back it himself, at the end of the day, and only used kickstarter for media coverage. Still doesn't excuse the fact he's a lying, criminal scum-bag who doesn't give a shit about anything or anyone but money.
And I doubt starting a thread about it two years later, highlighting eurogamer and other websites pathetic coverage, is playing into his hands. -
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Registered 12 years agoI think it's pretty widely acknowledged at this point that the guy is a charlatan and pathological bullshit artist. If people still want to buy into his horseshit on the back of a couple of decent games from 15-20 years ago, more power to them. He hasn't been relevant to me for well over a decade though, so I couldn't really give a monkeys what he's up to anymore. -
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Registered 17 years agosuper-s1 wrote:
Clearly you couldn't tell, but I wasn't 100% serious about you giving him what he wants.
And I doubt starting a thread about it two years later, highlighting eurogamer and other websites pathetic coverage, is playing into his hands..gif)
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Registered 17 years agoDirtbox wrote:
I dunno - I've had to deal with many of said eels and they make ol' Pete look like a saint.
He's easy to hate because there's nothing whatsoever about him to like. He has more hyperbole, flat out lies and greed than the entire marketing department of your average multi billion dollar publisher, but without any of the talent or integrity of those slimy, pointless eels.
I think the well of goodwill has run dry for Molyneux. None of the press are going to go after him because unless they're willing to go to court I imagine he would get the defamation lawyers involved.
It's one thing for a slightly angry gamer with nothing better to do on a forum to call him a swindling cunt, it's another for a published article to do so.
I'm actually intrigued to see where it goes next. He doesn't give a fuck - he's made his bank and can walk away any time. As a business example, he's a great one. He made money everywhere he went and with pretty much everything he did.
I didn't back his Kickstarter (any more than I would've backed Braben's). I'm not going to give cash to people just because they made some of teenaged me's favourite games. Except the Infinity Engine people, but I was in my 20s by then so they don't count.
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Registered 15 years agoI liked that game he made where you could make a giant monkey eat its own poo -
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Registered 17 years agoThat wasn't a game, it was a home movie. -
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Registered 14 years agoFraud actions. -
As Phattso said, he created some amazing games in the past. I pulled all nighters with Populous and Powermonger and I've still got Syndicate that I struggle to get to play. I lost interest with him at Black and White and now just see him as the Clive Sinclair of UK software... though richer. Seems a smarmy git when I've seen him interviewed but then that's either a media bias or the fact he is a smarmy git.
Still, no other game apart from Populous has had me playing left handed as my right arm was so knackered from playing the game all day and all night. I finally stopped playing about 11am. Did I ever have freaky dreams -
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Registered 14 years agoHe was, in his early career, one of the true geniuses of the 8/16-bit gaming world. However, I think the further he got away from the actual development/design of the games he was working on, trying to guide those working for him, the more impotent to include those visions in his games he became.
The main problem with the man is that his vision usually vastly outweighs what the tech or monetary constraints of the time allow him to actually do. So whilst he really, truly believes that you're going to plant that acorn and see the tree grow later in the game (Fable!), it's just not viable to do so. I can imagine a lot of devs in his companies over the years have cringed whenever they've read something like that in a press interview.
And, of course, as you get older, you start to think about family more and less about work. And I guess stuff like free-to-play becomes the easy option, shoving micro-transactions in for quick cash. But if you're going to do that, you really to need to hang up your mouthy boots at that point, and not make statements bashing KickStarter for the fact your game really did turn out to be a 30 second money-grabbing grind.
TLDR; early genius for which he should be revered, as long as you ignore everything in the last 15 years. -
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Registered 14 years ago@super-s1
It's Peter Molyneux OBE by the way cunt. -
This thread is two years too late. -
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Registered 15 years agoIt actually genuinely makes me feel sick what he did to people with Godus. It's genuine fraud and he should be in jail. -
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Registered 15 years agoI didn't even back it but you are a moron if you don't think he should be locked up. Thanks to that idiot every fool knows that they don't have to bother following through with Kickstarter promises. -
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